This character and Grann
I am adding this chat log I had in #WP:KOTOR as a preemptive measure to explain my reasoning for this character and Grann being two different characters who just happen to look the same. OLIOSTER (talk) 23:32, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
<Olioster> So <Olioster> I really wish BioWare had decided not to use the same damn model for what appears to be 3 different characters :( <Olioster> They even have the same voice actor <Olioster> but they can't all be the same person <Olioster> There's a "Sith Diplomat" in the courtroom on Manaan, and one manning the front desk outside the Sith Embassy, AND then there's Grann <Darth_Burger> All of the characters in the game kind of look the same to me :P <Darth_Burger> They all have that same goofy mannequin look to them <Olioster> They are the same <Olioster> They have the exact same model and name <Olioster> and voice actor <Olioster> but there is no way they can all be the same person <Olioster> I think the one standing outside the Embassy is also Grann -->| Cylka (~chatzilla@wikia/Cylka) has joined #WP:KOTOR =-= Mode #WP:KOTOR +o Cylka by ChanServ <Olioster> Epiphany! <Olioster> The Sith Embassy has one of these "Sith Diplomat" characters just outside <Olioster> He lets you in with the code you get from the spy at the Republic embassy <Cylka> If you decide to go that route, yes. <Olioster> but when you get inside and the woman at the desk inside calls in "Grann" she more or less says that Grann authorized them with an old code or some such <Cylka> I always fought my way in. :P <Olioster> So Grann and the Sith Diplomat just outside the embassy are the same person <Cylka> Hmmm <Olioster> and since the Diplomat in the courtroom stays there even just before entering the embassy, it seems obvious he is a different character <Olioster> Do I win? :P <Xd1358> The answer is definitely no. <Cylka> Actually, I think that you could use that reasoning. <Olioster> I think it's sound enough :) <Cylka> Since no where does it say that you need to do the Sunry trial before you said the Embassy. <Olioster> Yeah <Olioster> Sunry trial is a side quest and you don't have to ever complete it <Cylka> So, if the trial is after the raid, the Sith diplomat would be in the court room. <Olioster> Gonna grab what is said from the dialog.tlk file <Cylka> good idea <Olioster> Commander Grann, report to the security desk immediately!Yes? What is it?You authorized this person to enter?Yes, they had the proper authorization to enter... |<-- Xd1358 has left freenode (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]) <Olioster> Also, Grann enters with four Sith War droids, and there are that many just outside the Embassy with him :) <Cylka> I think that based on your reasoning, the two are different individuals that just use the same model. <Olioster> Aye <Olioster> and voice actor, heh <Cylka> Yeah. They were just small bit parts. <Olioster> Cam Clarke's bread and butter <Olioster> Now to just explain it in the article, I suppose <Cylka> I don't think you have to unless someone brings it up. <Olioster> Aye, I was thinking that too <Tm_T> good evening Cylka <Cylka> There were quite a few times that the same model was used for different characters. <Cylka> Hello Tm. <Olioster> Yeah <Olioster> A tried and true shortcut in video games <Olioster> Gonna log this so that I remember the reasoning if needed :P