Talk: Star Wars Battlefront

Wrong developer

Note that the new Battlefront is being developed by DICE Los Angeles, not by the main studio DICE —Unsigned comment by 200.118.159.239 (talk • contribs)

• I thought the press conference said it was in fact being developed by DICE in Sweden? Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 15:20, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Do you have a source for this other than it being on the Wikipedia article with no source? OLIOSTER ^(talk) 16:42, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
    • Uh are you asking me or the anon? Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 17:46, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
      • The anon. OLIOSTER ^(talk) 18:02, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
        • Here you go. A source for it being in developement at DICE and not DICE LA. Add it to the article, I'm lazy. OLIOSTER ^(talk) 16:55, June 13, 2013 (UTC)
• Just because they opened a studio to work on Star Wars games, it does not automatically follow that that studio must be working on every game announced. The logo at the beginning of the video only said DICE, not DICE Los Angeles, so until and unless we can source an EA/DICE/otherwise official rep stating it's DICE LA, we go with what we've got. — DigiFluid^{(Whine here)} 18:05, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

• Just thought I'd add that it is is definitely a DICE Stockholm game. This is an argument I keep having to have on forums because people heard DICE LA early and didn't pay attention. Here are the twitter profiles of people working on the game. (put these names after the / in the twitter url, it wont let me post the full links)

PatrickBach, dspinnier, TearGasJazz, phatseejay, vonEdfa, DICE_FireWall, gustavhalling, DICEfigge

And these are just the ones on twitter. Every single one of them is located in Sweden and none of them work for DICE LA. Hopefully this puts this to rest. 137.111.13.200 01:14, October 26, 2014 (UTC)Hayt

Timeline

I'm sure there will be an official placement of Battlefront in the timeline when it nears its release, however we seem to be at a bit of a disagreement at the moment as to when it takes place. The website doesn't say the name "Rebel Alliance" at all; rather, it only says the "New Republic." Based on this, I believe the game is set during and/or after Episode VI. Cevan (talk) 20:45, April 17, 2015 (UTC)

• But the trailer pretty clearly shows the Battle of Hoth. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 00:46, April 18, 2015 (UTC)
  • I know the chance of this being the case are unlikely, but that very well could be another battle on Hoth after Episode VI. We can't assume it's the same. Cevan (talk) 01:09, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
• The novel timeline the pb edition of A New Dawn has it taking place right after Heir to the Jedi. Nivlacanator^(talk) 00:58, April 18, 2015 (UTC)
  • Isn't that referring to the Battlefront novel? Cevan (talk) 01:09, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
    • Yes, I talked with Mr. Freed a little, and he was able to say it follows the events of the game, but in a more story-like fashion. I asked him exactly when it starts, and he was able to say sometime before the ESB. He also said there's an excerpt in the Celebration Anaheim sampler. if anyone has their hands on that please check, scan, post! Nivlacanator^(talk) 05:30, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
      • Ah; thanks Nivlacanator! Cevan (talk) 05:32, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
        • I made sure that the admins at the Wikia booth got a copy to scan. - AV-6R7^{User talk:AV-6R7} 06:55, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

"We can't assume it's the same." The game includes the Battle of Hoth and the Battle of Endor. They are the same battles from the films. The reference to the New Republic is in regards to the Battle of Jakku. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 07:30, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Name change

Should we change the title of the page to "Star Wars Battlefront (DICE)", without the colon? Official listings for the game, such as EA's official store, Origin and Battlefront's official website display the title without the colon, much like Star Wars Rebels vs. Star Wars: Rebels. --Dentface (talk) 18:24, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

• Good catch. If we do, we could probably lose the DICE since its only for disambiguation purposes. Corellian Premier^{The Force will be with you always} 01:53, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
  • Interesting, I would have figured we would keep the (DICE), although it makes sense not to. --Dentface (talk) 01:57, May 26, 2015 (UTC)
    • If there's no objections, I'm going to move the page soon. --Dentface (talk) 20:41, May 27, 2015 (UTC)
      • Now that the page has been renamed... "(DICE)" does not need to be in this title. Star Wars Battlefront, which currently redirects to Star Wars: Battlefront, should be deleted by an admin. This page should then be moved to Star Wars Battlefront. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 00:21, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Appearances with voice only

Chewbacca "appears" in this game, but not in a physical form, rather we hear his growl when piloting with Han in the Millennium Falcon. Therefore, I believe we should add him to appearances, but I would like to know if there is something along the lines of (voice only), similar to the (Mentioned only) tag, that can be added to his name? Thank you. Reddyredcp (talk) 15:21, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

• There is! {{Voice}} - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 15:37, November 15, 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you! I'm somewhat new to Wikia, don't know all of the formatting yet. Reddyredcp (talk) 15:38, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

Beastiaries

(I;m quoting from a article here cause someone found all these creatures in the battlefront game)

I thought it would be fun to compile a bestiary of non-sentient creatures in the new Star Wars Battlefront game. Bear in mind that this is a work in progress as I have yet to photograph some of the more elusive creatures. I apologise for some of the poor images and will replace them with better when I can. All creatures, except the sarlacc, are unfortunately sprites. Some will fly or scurry away if you get too close. I have not included sentient species such as Jawas, Tusken Raiders, or Ewoks.

The desert planet of Tatooine boasts the largest amount of fauna seen so far. Lets review what we have...

Bantha (a herd can be seen in the distance on the Dune Sea Exchange map) http://imgur.com/RnwOO7Y

Bone Gnawer (seen soaring the thermal updraughts of Tatooine's canyons) http://imgur.com/jC4HVNO

Krayt Dragon remains (bit of a cheap one this, as it's just a skeleton) http://imgur.com/dxnTjXi

Profogg (for want of better identification, will look into it further) http://imgur.com/rsIz7HH

Rock Beetle (is what it is) http://imgur.com/OMZLi2s

Rock Wart (the venemous wart is hard to spot and even trickier to photograph) http://imgur.com/qV2nzSG

Sarlacc (the almighty Sarlacc at the Pit of Carkoon, good for soup and killing unsuspecting players on the Dune Sea Exchange map) http://imgur.com/krYtdQy

Sketto (found clustering the cave entrances on the Jundland Wastes) http://imgur.com/Oo0vPWV

Trooshti (these curious bugs sport manes of golden hair and are found on the Tatooine survival map) http://imgur.com/M5VwaJv

Hoth

Hoth only features two creatures and no prizes for guessing what they are.

Tauntaun (a herd can be seen in the distance on the tutorial and on the Outpost Beta map, but if you fly too close they disappear) http://imgur.com/U2qsa5X

Wampa (the lone predator is found tailing a herd of tauntauns on the tutorial) http://imgur.com/8C1BXGC Endor

Lots of creatures can be found on the lush forest moon of Endor, most rather difficult to spot. There may be more I haven't found yet.

Blue Butterfly (these delicates butterflies are found fluttering among the ferns) http://imgur.com/95iYFsZ

Geejaw (this bat-like bird looks a lot like a small pterasaur and can be found patrolling a flight through the pines) http://imgur.com/9uCOKb9

Humming Peeper (a shy and diminutive bird native to the forest, flits away when approached) http://imgur.com/YwqHKZZ

Lantern Bird (this gaudily coloured avian beats a flight path over the Ewok walkways and the blue lake) http://imgur.com/E0KFYgj

Temptor (seen here surprising my buddy Usestactics at it bursts from the foliage, note the incredible attention to detail on its scales) http://imgur.com/gfnuTbD

Sullust The barren, molten planet of Sullust may be thought to hold no life, but one would be surprised...

Ash Angel (coming soon)

Lava Crab (coming soon)

Sullustan Worm (coming soon)

Trilobite (if you gaze into the turquoise water, you will see these primeval arthropods swimming about) http://imgur.com/hqubN3B (Ghidorafour (talk) 10:15, December 30, 2015 (UTC))

• Very interesting indeed! Glad that some people are actually trying to identify them all! --LelalMekha (talk) 10:25, December 30, 2015 (UTC)
  • Glad you think so, btw for those wondering why Bone Gnawer, profogg and sketto have well again i have to quote here about a discussion btween a commentor and a guy doing this. Quote The clawbirds are specifically from Wayland, they could be maybe a Bonegnawer?

Agreed. I had a look on Tatooine Survival map through the Targeting Rifle and it's definitely a Bone gnawer

What you call "sand buzzer", it can be actually a Sketto? Also the description matches.

Agreed. I had a look on Tatooine Survival map through the Targeting Rifle and it's definitely a Sketto

I saw the creature you identified with a Womp Rat, there are clues that lead to think it can be a Sand Skitter but it is very elusive, and until a few days ago I thought it was always the same Rock Wart, but it's definitely a new animal I've seen these skittering away into burrows on Tatooine Walker Assault.

they finally realize it's a profogg when they check the image and and notices it matches its legend counterpart.

Btw someone found a image for Lava crab for anyone who curious: http://imgur.com/Eev5u3L --Ghidorafour (talk) 22:46, December 30, 2015 (UTC)

Someone found the Munyip: http://imgur.com/3g1505N --Ghidorafour (talk) 12:17, January 15, 2016 (UTC)

• Also in the new Endor map there are some kind of big spiders --79.37.100.118 19:19, March 8, 2016 (UTC)

NOT canon

According to Pablo Hidalgo, this game is flat out non-canon! https://twitter.com/ultrasoup/status/712302493166755840 The Ultimate Dude (talk) 17:15, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

EDIT: With this in mind, how should we go about editing the pages for items that appear in the game and were previously considered canon. For example, Shadow Troopers have a canon page, but their only appearance is in Battlefront, which is actually non-canon. So should the content of the "canon" page be migrated into the Legends page, or what?The Ultimate Dude (talk) 17:34, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

• He's just saying that the gameplay is non-canon. The game itself still is. Cwedin^(talk) 17:37, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

Legends

One of the maps in the Bespin DLC, Bioniip Laboratories, is confirmed to be a Star Wars Legends map. Here's the official quote:

"Take a few steps into the Star Wars™ Legends with the map called the Bioniip Laboratories, where cybernetics and other bio-implants were manufactured." [1]

DarkKnight2149 22:10, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

• Personally, I would not take that to mean the map is Legends. Rather, they are informing players where the map is drawn from. I think that would qualify as a canonization of the previously Legends Bioniip Laboratories. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 22:14, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

I would agree with you, but the quote said "take a few steps into Star Wars Legends", which seems to indicate that the map itself is set in Legends continuity. If it was merely a canonisation of a Legends map, I believe it would be worded differently. DarkKnight2149 22:18, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

I might add that this is not the first time something from Legends has been added to this game. There's also Shadowtroopers, Sullust being a volcanic planet, SoroSuub, and others... and they're all treated as canon now. -- Commander Awesome (Talk - Contribs) 22:25, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

Which is why I would treat this as a recanonization. As far as I'm aware, Battlefront hasn't drawn something specifically from Legends that hasn't already be recanonized. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 22:31, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

The difference between those and this, is that all of the others are just Legends material integrated into the canon game. In the case of the Bioniip Laboratories map, the official site clearly defines it as a Legends map while everything else is considered canon (except for the gameplay). DarkKnight2149 23:07, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

This page doesn't make any mention of Legends in regards to the new map. "We’ve also added a map called the Bioniip Laboratories which, our lore-savy fans out there will know, is where cybernetics and other bio-implants were manufactured." Again, I would treat this simply as a recanonization with EA acknowledging the original source material. The game is Canon in terms of locations and equipment but as gameplay is not considered to be Canon then there is no real reason to consider it as Legends content within a Canon game. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 23:18, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

Although the gameplay itself isn't canon, I do believe that the location of Bioniip Laboratories is a Legends location in a canon game based on the quote from the official site that I listed above. For this reason, I don't think we should treat the location as canon or create a page for Bioniip Laboratories/Canon. DarkKnight2149 18:37, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

(Reset Indent) I think someone should contact Pablo Hidalgo for a definitive answer about this. Until then, however, I think we should treat it as canon as we do everything else from this game. We shouldn't make assumptions based on ambiguous quotes. -- Commander Awesome (Talk - Contribs) 03:20, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

I reached out to Pablo Hidalgo. This was his response. DarkKnight2149 16:56, August 7, 2016 (UTC)

Just as I thought. -- Commander Awesome (Talk - Contribs) 17:06, August 7, 2016 (UTC)

Events

Is it necessary to add all the battles into the appearance section? Wouldn't the outcome be undetermined in canon...? NoahR9^{Chat with me!} 09:56, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

Death Star DLC

What is the planet that appears on the Death Star Battle Station Space sections? Is it Geonosis? It looks to be can anyone confirm that? T-888 (talk) 21:33, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

I believe that the developers confirmed it was neither Geonosis nor Jedha, but they have yet to follow up on that. For now, we should leave it out of Appearances given that any additions would be pure speculation. Reddyredcp (talk) 21:37, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

Canonicity

Since Rogue One has come out, we know that the Rebels did not have any prior contact with the Death Star before its appearance on Jedha. Given that the events of the movie directly tie into the events of A New Hope, does this drive the Death Star DLC out of canon? Either R2 was in Luke's X-Wing, or he was imprisoned on the Death Star. Either Chewbacca was helping to rescue R2, or in the Falcon with Han. Given that the game (not gameplay) is given canonical status, are we going to have to do the logical backflips that were required pre-Disney (R-22 Spearhead and Star Tours for example) to start creating new Death Stars for the Empire to lose based solely on a level in a video game? 68.227.97.169 03:49, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

• The DLC mission was never meant to be canonical. The reason Battlefront is considered "canon" is merely because it deals only with canon topics. It's comparable to mobile games like Star Wars: Galactic Defense or Star Wars: Force Arena; the gameplay is entirely non-canonical, while info in the game such as characters and weapons are canon. - Cwedin^(talk) 04:01, February 11, 2017 (UTC)
  • Fair enough, then what about gameplay mechanics that seem to go against the bulk of established canon? To be specific, I'm talking about Battlefront being the sole source for the presence of Proton Torpedo launchers in TIE Fighters. Obviously, giving one faction seeking warheads while the other makes do with their lasers alone would be unbalanced from a gameplay perspective. I guess I'm asking by what specific guidelines should Battlefront be used as a sole reference for an entry in an article when the game's canonicity has been confirmed as 'Complicated' by the devs themselves? If nobody minds, I'm going to rename the topic of this thread to just 'Canonicity' as I think that's the main focus of the question instead of just a specific DLC.68.227.97.169 23:45, February 12, 2017 (UTC)
    • "Complicated" indeed. I think the best approach for oddballs like Battlefront is to agree with it, as long as it doesn't go against more concrete sources. Since games are made around gameplay mechanics and not lore, we just have to sift through things on a case-by-case basis and use our best judgement. Just like the canonicity of Fantasy Flight Games articles, there's no easy answer, unfortunately. - Cwedin^(talk) 02:07, February 13, 2017 (UTC)