Force Illusions In LOTF
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Do you think that the Force illusions projected in Betrayal? and Fury would qualify as Sith magic? I mean, they were tangible, they could kill people and be detected through conventional means, they just can't be killed. Please answer soon. Darth Bassan94 14:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- That would seem to be the case. Lumiya had access to a lot of Sith knowledge, all stored in her asteroid. It's entirely possible that part of that knowledge was a book (or books) on Sith magic. And yes, the illusory lightsaber opponents in Betrayal and Fury seem to match the description of Aleema Keto's illusions.
- I'm gonna go ahead and put it in, and if anyone knows otherwise, they can remove it. Darth Bassan94 15:07, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- If we put in the bit about the phantoms in Fury, do we have to put the spoiler template on the page? Darth Bassan94 15:47, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- Also, does anyone think that the phantom of Matric Klauskin's wife Edela would constitute Sith magic. It seemed to have all the same properties, except without the aggression and twisted features. Darth Bassan94 17:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
RE: Force Illusions In LOTF
It was never stated anywhere that the illusions cast by Lumiya were the result of Sith magic, whereas the illusions cast by Aleema Keto were specifically stated to be the product of said magic. It is speculation that Lumiya's knowledge consisted of Sith magic and it's properties. Also, Lumiya's illusions were more than mere mental projections, they were Force phantoms that could actually cause physical harm. Alema Keto's illusions only made the victim think and feel like they could be harmed. These differ from both Force illusions and Sith magic illusions in that the phantoms must be linked to a person's life force, as demonstrated when Lumiya projected the phantoms against Jacen Solo and Nelani Dinn at The Home near Bimmiel (Legacy of the Force: Betrayal), or the ones Alema Rar used against Leia Organa and Han Solo while onboard the Millenium Falcon (Legacy of the Force: Fury). Aleema Keto's illusions were the product of intricate hand gestures and spell casting, not having to be attached to a living being's essence. Thus, the differences between the two.
Tommy 18:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Seperate Articles.
Personally, I think the seperate powers should link to main articles based on them.
Example: Main Article: Force Blast. or.. Main Article: Force Illusion.
Force Illusion already has a main article, however Blast does not.
In addition to making the Force Blast article, it would be wise to use this image: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Leia%26lumiya_duel.jpg#file
Lumiya also used it. User:Lacertosus
RE: Seperate Articles.
Lumiya's ability to project energy blasts was the result of cybernetic enhancements given to her by Darth Vader. It is nowhere stated that this was a Force power or even an application of Sith magic used by Lumiya.
Tommy 18:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Sith Magic = Force Powers?
I question the point of this article as a subject. Wasn't 'Magic' just what people who didnt understand the Force call the powers they witnessed? Sith Sorcery is just another way of saying Magic, and people like alliteration as a written device. As such, shouldn't this page just be disassembled into the individual powers and liked into the 'Force Powers' page? Darth Xadún 08:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- True, to an extent. In the days of the Old Republic era, the Sith harnessed the dark side through rituals, spells, incantations, and gestures. Sith magic was a major proponent in the TOTJ & DLOTS story arcs, and in even later stories, it is again referenced to and implemented as something other than conventional Sith or dark side abilities.
- Also, while the Sith and other darksiders command a wide range of amazing abilities, only a specific few have been seen and associated with actual Sith magic.
—Tommy9281(Lússë i Morë Hwesta súya!) 17:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- hmmm. I still dont like it. but that's my personal view. Darth Xadún 13:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- To further elaborate, Darth Bane stated that Sith magic differed from convential Sith powers, and that if was much more complex in its learning. He therefore allowed his apprentice to study Sith magic, as she had an affinity for it that he himself did not. Bane's power laid in the raw power of the dark side, not the intricacies of Sith magic. Hope this helps.—Tommy9281(Safe harbor, my friend.) 14:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
- hmmm. I still dont like it. but that's my personal view. Darth Xadún 13:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- i would personally define magic as unconventional and complex use of the force.Ralok 01:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
The Magic page says that whether or not magic -- and thus, Sith Sorcery -- is the same as the Force is disputed, but this page says that Sith Sorcery is as much apart of the Force as the conventional power Force Lightning. Which is it? Blackfire667 03:22, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
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Canon
Sith Magic is also canon. Should I make a page?
- Waving hands around and intoning magic spells in laughable mimicry of Dungeons & Dragons wizards is not canon. 72.200.151.15 23:30, November 14, 2015 (UTC)
- If it appears in canon media, then it is canon. You can't just decide that something isn't canon because it you don't like how it was handled. That being said, was it confirmed as Sith Magic in the new canon? 104.148.132.34 00:50, November 15, 2015 (UTC)