I disagree with the classification of the "Victory Celebration" piece at the end of Episode VI as diegetic.
I disagree with the classification of the "Victory Celebration" piece at the end of Episode VI as diegetic. I base this on several points.
- The fact that several localities are shown in the special edition ending (Coruscant, Cloud City, Naboo, etc.) while the music continues to play unabated.
- None of the instruments played by the Ewoks on Endor match the orchestration of this piece.
- None of the actions of the Ewoks playing their instruments line up with their soundtrack counterparts. In other words, you don't actually "hear" the ewoks playing the instruments, hitting the storm trooper helmets, etc.
- The use of a choir by John Williams at the end of this piece. There is not choir present on Endor (or any of the other localities shown during this sequence).
--Dormous
That would make it an extra-diegetic piece. 84.40.25.242 02:49, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Boba and Dooku
--Eggmanland 05:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)I know about Boba's motif, but aside from this article (and the nearly identical one at Wikipedia), I've never seen anything to suggest that the that music during the climax on Cloud City is specifically meant to be a theme for Fett. Why would Williams give him both a motif and a theme, neither of which sound alike? This smells like fanon to me.
Also, I'm not sure about the Dooku motif- mainly because I'm having trouble identifying it. Can anyone find an instance in AOTC where this motif is heard?Eggmanland 05:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, since no one has come forward with any proof on the Boba thing, I vote we remove it.Eggmanland 18:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think the Dooku one may be the music that accompanies Dooku's return to Coruscant at the end of AotC. I don't know if it appears elsewhere in the film though, and I'm not sure if it's actually been identified as Dooku's piece, or more a Coruscant or "flight" piece - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 18:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- Also, track 9 of the second ESB CD is titled "Carbon Freeze/Darth Vader's Trap/Departure of Boba Fett", so the final segment of that track could be seen as a loose Fett's theme - since it does include his motif (it hits in at about 7:33 - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 18:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure the solar sailer piece isn't an actual theme, either for Dooku or for anything else. It takes more to make a theme than just having the character's name in the track listing. Either way, I think the article is referring to something else (what, I'm still not sure- I'm still waiting to find an example of it). As for Boba- the part that begins at 7:33 is the music that I'm arguing isn't a theme for Boba. The music identifed as "Boba's motif" can be heard on the same CD in track 3 (very beginning). If the two cues are related, I'm not hearing it. My argument is that there's no evidence to support the idea of the second theme (from track 9, as an example) being a theme dedicated to Boba. As far as I know, it's not specifically meant to be connected to any person, place, or idea, meaning it's not so much a theme as incidental music (sort of like Dooku's flight music). Unless there's proof somewhere that it IS a theme for Boba, I think this item should be considered fanon and removed.Eggmanland 21:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think the Dooku one may be the music that accompanies Dooku's return to Coruscant at the end of AotC. I don't know if it appears elsewhere in the film though, and I'm not sure if it's actually been identified as Dooku's piece, or more a Coruscant or "flight" piece - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 18:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
NPOV?
Why? And what do we have to do?--The Erl of the Musical score talk What I do 15:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm wondering the same thing... ~~ Commander Jorrel Fraajic
Communications Relay ~~
- I'm debating removing the tag…Cutch 16:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Rebel Fanfare
The Rebel Fanfare is only in episode IV. That is why I added this tag: Template:Disputed Nat682 16:45, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
- Nope, it is definitely in those other films as well. Are you sure it's the Rebel Fanfare you're thinking of? -- Ozzel 04:30, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Name of musical piece
What is the name of the musical score played when Satine dies?--Tcp3059 (talk) 03:42, March 12, 2015 (UTC)