Padawan
Did mace windu ever have a padawan.--Star wars champ 17:19, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, check his infobox under 'Known Apprentices'.66.103.119.237 02:00, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Lightsaber
I recall in Allegiance that Mara Jade narrates how Palpatine gave her the purple lightsaber she uses as an Emperor's Hand, and how he told her it once belonged to a "powerful Jedi" or something like that, without directly stating Windu's name. I don't have the book handy, or I'd source it myself. Anyone else want to check it out? It could be added to the end of the "Legacy" section of this article. Xarathion 15:29, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
the paragraph reads that it was rumored. but, it is part of the star wars cannon that he did...not just rumored. he singale handed took on the droid army. crushing sed army with his bare hands and destroyed a sesmic tank. it was part of the clone wars tv show which made it cannon. the same is true for what skywalker and obi did too. —Unsigned comment by 24.56.62.38 (talk • contribs)
staring out the "f" word
On his lightsaber emiter the letters BMF are inscribed and on his page they say the actual word and i stared it out.it now reads "Bad Mother F***er" i did that just because it was bugging me and i dont thinks its really necessary to have it.Bananapops! 17:02, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Reverted. Wookieepedia isn't censored. -- I need a name (Complain here) 17:06, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
- seriously!?!?! why? i dont think that it need to be there!Saesee tiin 18:20, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
Second Dantooine?
I think we should put in a second battle of Dantooine as it was implied that the Separatists had just attacked that planet in 'Brain Invaders' and it cannot refer to the first battle there (which took place a mere 4 months after Geonosis while Anakin was still a Padawan). —Unsigned comment by 72.215.154.26 (talk • contribs)
Clone Wars Series Information
This article needs more information from the Clone Wars television series. It is not good to have blank info about a pivotal and vital character. 124.180.135.99 13:21, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
- No-one is stopping you. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 13:22, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
Mace Windu's distraction on Palpatine
I don't think that Mace Windu got to distracted on Sidious. He wouldn't have been able to deal with Anakin because then Palpatine would have struck Mace with his lightning while he was trying to defend against Anakin. So really, he was just forced to focus on Sidious only, knowing that Anakin might still be on the light side. He could only hope Anakin was still on the light side. --208.127.143.93 16:36, September 30, 2012 (UTC)
- This page is for discussing changes to the article, not talking about the subject. Take this theory to a forum somewhere. NaruHina Talk
03:21, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
I think the part of Mace Windu being to distracted on Sidious should be taken out. NaruHina pointed out that this page isn't for talking about the subject. I don't think that part of Mace Windu being to distracted should be in there because we don't know if he got too distracted. I just thought someone would figure out that I wanted it taken out.--208.127.143.93 03:40, October 4, 2012 (UTC)
StarWars.com error
Should the article mention that the StarWars.com info page for Mace Windu does not list him as being in Episode III, as you can see below? http://starwars.com/explore/encyclopedia/characters/macewindu/ —Unsigned comment by 108.226.164.88 (talk • contribs)
Apprentice
Darrus Jeht should be listed under the apprentices section as his page says that he was informally trained by Mace Windu. 149.135.147.88 22:19, December 27, 2012 (UTC)
- Informally trained does not necessarily make him an apprentice. —GethralkinHyperwave 19:47, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-6HWkqFw0E I think mace windu may have survived... —Unsigned comment by Nosmoreswthenu (talk • contribs)
- Hey there. If that video were official, then we would indeed have to rethink our treatment of Mace as dead. However, it's a fan-made video. Thanks for bringing it to the site's attention, but, alas, it's not real. Menkooroo (talk) 01:48, November 25, 2013 (UTC)
Personality and Traits
I'm wondering for the source of the final paragraph of Mace Windu's Personality and traits. Is it solely from the novelization of RotS? [ pepoluan talk ] 03:54, March 12, 2015 (UTC)
I want to know why it is so short. It used to be longer than it is now. Shouldn't we fix that? Master Shannara (talk) 08:44, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Trimming the article down
Would it be possible if we (or I) remove some of the sections on this page? Many of the subsections are just an exhaustive report on Mace Windu's presence, which add no actual information on him. For example, the Cloak of Darkness section is four paragraphs explaining the novel that Windu doesn't actually do anything in. All the section says is that Windu was present on the Council during this time and listened to reports on the Nebula Front. The Exploits section literally says nothing that isn't repeated in further sections; though those could probably be trimmed down to go under this umbrella section. Jedi disappearances, Invasion of Naboo, The Pulas, Mission to Radnor, Death of Yarael Poof, could largely be eliminated or summarized under exploits. Same goes for much of the Clone Wars information. Helping a Hutt, The Malevolence, Failed capture of Nute Gunray, Dooku captured, Separatist droid foundry, Funeral of Onaconda Farr, Savage Opress, Capture of Even Piell, A lost Padawan, Darth Maul returns, Onderon, Maul's rampage, Temple bombing, Almas, recount Windu's exploits within the Jedi Temple war room, which really is quite silly, in my humble opinion. Just wanted to hear others' opinions before I removed or condensed so as not to ruffle any feathers. Purpilia (talk) 18:56, April 9, 2016 (UTC)
PoV Issues
I just noticed that someone added the template indicating that this article seems to have trouble expressing a neutral point-of-view. Looking over the "Personality and traits" section myself, I strongly agree. Its description of Mace Windu's attempted execution of Palpatine is definitely skewed against him, calling him an extremist, and without acknowledging the nuances to that situation. These nuances include the fact that Palpatine was faking whether Windu suspected it or not, and the fact that as such a powerful a Sith Lord, who had only been disarmed and not at all maimed, it is common sense that it is near impossible to detain Palpatine long enough to bring him to trial, not to mention that the influence he wielded would have meant such a trial would have been all but a mock trial in his favor. Now, I don't mean to get into a debate about whether Windu's decision was right or wrong. The important matter for this article is that it's simply not a black-and-white choice, and it should not be presented as a black-and-white choice on Windu's fault, such as firmly attributing his downfall to this decision.
Moreover, that last paragraph describes his attachment for the Republic as a flaw, but its source for this, the novelization, presents it not as a flaw, but as a heartwarming, deep characteristic of Mace Windu: that although he strictly adhered to the orthodox Jedi principle of non-attachment, in the end, he couldn't help but love the Republic because to him, it represented justice, democracy, and the safeguarding of rights for all peoples. This is how the novel describes it; it's written as though the reader is meant to sympathize with Windu's conviction, and to see how behind all his strictness, his harshness, and his conservative attitude against attachment, he was still a human being who truly cared about something more than his life; and this paragraph written here twists the words of the novel by instead writing that he is an extremist who believed in peace no matter the cost, even through force and violation of Jedi principles, making him sound more akin to a Knights Templar, a Light Yagami, or a Madara Uchiha.
Whether or not he violated Jedi philosophy has always been contentious. Here we have a democratically-elected leader who had become a dictator eroding away at democracy through lawful means, who as far as the Jedi suspected (correctly), is probably behind a conspiracy that threatened the fate of the entire galaxy. It's too much to say that Windu was an extremist whose main motivation was only to preserve peace no matter the cost, and who only loved the Republic because it represented peace rather than because it also represented values like democracy and natural rights (as the novel describes), when there was so much at stake. Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:19, March 22, 2017 (UTC)
- When it comes to Jedi-related articles, I think we need to pay extra attention to their edit history because I see a lot of POV issues with them. Whether it's because of what happened with Ahsoka or personal issues with the Jedi Code—or whatever the reason—there seems to be a bit of anti-Jedi bias in some of the articles related to them. Now, if a source specifically referred to a Jedi as arrogant or prideful, then it wouldn't be a POV issue to refer to them as such so long as the source was referenced in the article. In Windu's case, his Legends article is heavily skewed against him as Sol Pacificus pointed out; as was the canonical article, which I spent a considerable amount of time repairing due to numerous POV issues in there as well. As far as the rules are concerned, it's very simple—referring to someone or something in a positive or negative way is viewer-based/POV, which violates Wookieepedia's NPOV policy. However, if a source specifically says something (ex: Mace Windu was the greatest champion of the Jedi Order), then it can be added to the article per the Attribution policy. JRT2010 (talk) 09:24, March 23, 2017 (UTC)
Japanese voice actor section edits
While I understand that me adding such information is likely vandalism, do bear in mind I was the one who actually edited the Tesshō Genda info solely based on Behindthevoiceactors.com, but even then, evidence shown here in the Japanese credits for the Epsiode 3 console game ( https://youtu.be/l_YVy8kiOZ8?si=fLhzxUK-7k_-RkCt&t=1076 ) shows that Genda didn't voice Mace Windu in all adaptations (Naomi Kusumi voiced him in the video game). If that's the case, perhaps only in the case of Anakin, Yoda and Galen Marek who actually appeared in notable Japanese voiced-media accessible to Western audiences in the form of the Soul Cailbur series, then I would have to undo the mention of Japanese voice acting if this kind of information is not as accurate or up-to-date with information such as this. SneaselSawashiro (talk) 23:21, 29 January 2024 (UTC)