Talk: Loje Nella/Legends

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Loje Nella WAS in ROTJ. Just look between Max Rebo and Droopy McCool in the scene where Jabba discoveres Leia has set Han free. When everybody laughs, you can see him bobbing around between the two band members.

Also, on the front cover of the Jedi Apprentice book "The Shattered Peace" you see a bipedal rendering of Loje's species. Perhaps his proper species name is Rutanian or Senalian?

• Um no. Loje Nella is a species from Tatooine, akin to the cliffborers. Rutanians are humanoid, totally different.JustinGann 02:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Let us clear this up. Cliffborer worms are nonsentient critters. Loje Nella belongs an anonymous species DESCENDED from the Cliffborer worms of Tatooine, but not identical.JustinGann 17:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
    • I can't believe we're just noticing this now.--Lord Oblivion^{Sith holocron} 04:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• • • • He's a Cliffborer worm. Rutanians are humanoid.*Somehow I mistoke myself earlier. Loje Nella is a member of an unnamed sentient species descended from the nonsentient cliffborer worms of Tatooine. Loje Nella therefore, naturally, lives on Tatooine. The pic of the book lcearly shows a member of Loje Nella's species for no good reason. Rutanians are humanoids! They cannot be Loje Nella's species seen on the cover of this book.JustinGann 10:29, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
        • So what's the reason for this not reverted to him being a Cliffborer worm, which he is?

The book photoshopper just grasped for straws trying to come up w/ something unique. Someone change it to Cliffborer, or I will.

• • • • • • So he's one of these things? Doesn't match up at all... - \\Captain Kwenn// ^{— Ahoy!} 19:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
            • His CCG says "Descended from a species of cliff boring worms".

Technically he is not a Cliff Boring Worm. He needs to be listed as Unknown for species, with a new article made for it. Loje does not appear humanoid at all in the actual movie, but more like a glow worm. I think his image was photoshopped for the cover without any real research done.

Description from TheForce.net Unofficial Encyclopedia: "This race of green-eyed, blue-skinned humanoids was native to the planet Rutan. The average Rutanian stood more than a meter taller than a human, and was muscularly strong..." This does not seem like a description of Loje Nella. He's an accountant, must be an adult, and is not even 2 meters tall. Where are the muscles? He's a wobbling glow worm.

Let's vote to see how many still feel Loje belongs to an unknown species or the Rutanians.

• • My point exactly. Loje Nella is NOT humanoid, and is a species from TATOOINE, not a Rutanian. It is correct Loje is not a cliffborer, but rather, an anonymous race descended from cliffborersJustinGann 14:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Does anyone else disagree, after all the well-explained reasons why Loje Nella's species cannot be Rutanians?
    • • Lord Oblivion seems to believe Loje is still a Rutanian.

LO, we've given our arguments for Unknown species descended from Cliffborer worms, do you care to share your arguments for him being a Rutanian? What powers does LO have in terms of banning me for trying to bring truth to this matter? Has he been known to abuse power in the past?

• • • • • There's still a conflict because Leed is a Rutanian, yet is depicted as looking like Loje. We've got conflicting sources here - \\Captain Kwenn// ^{— Ahoy!} 10:13, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
• What proof do we have the character on the cover of the novella IS meant to be Leed, or even a Rutanian?JustinGann 16:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Right, unless this has been officially explained, I think it's just conjecture, however an eductaed guess, that the "loje depiction" is meant to be Leed or his father, due to his golden chains and purple robe. Inigo Montoya

I still don't see how this discounts Loje Nella being a Rutanian, or that the picture on Shattered Peace is not a Rutanian. TFN has been known to be wrong before, so we can't just take their word for it. Why is it unreasonable that Loje Nella's species settled Rutan? They can still be from Tatooine, but the species may have migrated to Rutan, which is why none of Jabba's denizens know his species. That's entirely plausible still. Isn't it? Cull Tremayne 19:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

• No. Loje's appearence simply contradicts that of the Rutanian, as described within. Inigo Montoya
  • I'm gonna let you guys figure this out. I reverted due to past experience with these articles, but now see that there is a legitimate argument. By the way, I don't have the power to ban anyone, and I wouldn't ban you if I did.--Lord Oblivion^{Sith holocron} 22:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Still not convinced. I already said that TFN has been known to be wrong before. So we need proof from that book that the description of the Rutaninans is completely different from that of Loje Nella. Cull Tremayne 23:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Leland Chee says he's a Riorian. -- I need a name (Complain here) 12:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not satisfied with a nonpublicized statement. Good a theory as any, but I'm taking this more as plain fan research, than trying to fit with established publicized work (the CCG). It's so obvious Loje's species' physiology differs from the Riorian, and I shouldn't have to point out which areas. Not a canon explanation, as far as I'm aware. Same as the idea that Artoo recounted the Saga to the Whills 100 ABY just 'cause Lucas threw it out once. I'm reverting until a higher up says otherwise. My apologies to those who have worked to revert the info to the way it stood before the truth came out. Also, don't get confused. A Riorian is neither a Rutanian, nor Loje's species. Perhaps the Riorians have genetic ancestory with Loje's, but certainly not the Rutanians. Even Leland Chee, though not totally correct, sees as much. Inigo Montoya 06:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

• Forgive me, as I have not read the whole above argument. But are you actually ignoring what Leland Chee said simply because it is, as you say, "nonpublicized"? Dude, the man is in charge of all Star Wars continuity. If he says "Loje Nella is actually a Riorian," then Loje Nella is actually a Riorian. -- Ozzel 06:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
• I recognize his profession and importance, but he has to fall in line just like everyone else. This goes right to the top with Lucas himself. Consider the paragraph following the title 'Speculation' under R2-D2's 'Behind the Scenes'. Inigo Montoya 07:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • What? No it doesn't. This is from a Watson book that no-one gives a stuff about. So Chee is the go-to man, and what he says, sticks. No questions. Take Rune Haako, for example. .... 07:36, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
    • So Wookiees are wampas, because they're both big hairy brutes?

Leland's word isn't infallible. Inigo Montoya 09:50, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

• It is here. .... 09:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • You do realize the two species only look alike superficially? And Leland himself said the Riorians are based from Loje's concept art.

I think he just did some homework, and believes that's the answer, but it isn't. Let go of your anger, I can tell you're just a difficult person by claiming to be a "Darksider". Incidentally, what happens when things get "messy"? Should you even be threatening me in the first place? BTW, I don't cotton to crap like being a proponent of things like a Portuguese man-o'-war article. Inigo Montoya 10:14, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

• *furrows brow* Chee said it. It's canon. You are no one in terms of canon. You cannot dispute canon. I'm not threatening you, I'm warning you of the consequenses of your actions. .... 10:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • What consequences, turning into an ignorant, bitter person? I'm not bending over for injustice. What's right is right, and your shared crusade with others is wrong. I have to take breaks, but I'll come back to this article whenever possible. Inigo Montoya 10:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
    • No, you won't, because you'll get banned. It's really quite simple. .... 10:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
      • I've locked the article until the differences between all concerned have been settled. StarNeptune^{Talk to me!} 10:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
        • I highly doubt that George Lucas gives a toss what species Loje Nella is. -- I need a name (Complain here) 17:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
          • No, but evidently, we do, and that's why George Lucas hired Leland Chee :) Rodtheanimegod4ever 04:56, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok this makes no sense at all if Loje Nella is a species descended from the cliffborder worm how can he be an accounant for jabba without hands and what does his body look like because from what ive seen he just looks like worm with no limbs, and if you want to know what his mouth looks like here is the picture

http://www.ffurg.com/references/lojenella.JPG

Action Figure

It seems that this debate has generated some interest in the character/species. So how many of us would like to see a Hasbro action figure of Mr. Nella? He's high on my wish list! Plavalaguna 18:20, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

While surching for images of Loje Nella i came across this production puppet and it proves Loje Nella's puppet was not given any limbs but just a worm body with a hand slot on the very bottom for the puppeteer to operate Loje Nella maybe if an action figure is made maybe it will just be a worm body. Here is the link to the production puppet.

http://www.starwars.pl/pic.php?path=galeria/classic/prod_maq/001.jpg&txt=Loje%20Nella%20-%20makieta%20niewykorzystana

I don't think the incomplete puppet was meant to represent what the complete body was supposed to look like. And I'm not sure a complete body design was ever intended to be created for this character back then. Much like Cane Adiss and Hem Dazon, this was just a puppet and essentially set dressing. Hem Dazon's species was obviously never intended to be just a floating head! My point is, perhaps when shown fan interest in the character Hasbro will create a body/costume that will suit Loje's character based on the Riorian species in the EU (like they did with Hem Dazon). I hope they do this for Cane Adiss as well! Plavalaguna 15:44, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I was banned, and article's editing blocked unjustly

Leland even realized he wasn't a Rutanian. Many of you are too close-minded. 71.217.5.241 23:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Closest way to how article should read

http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Loje_Nella&diff=prev&oldid=1088708 71.217.5.241 02:01, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid that we have to log in Leland Chee's comments as official. Leleand Chee's official job is to maintain all those loose elements of canon and clarify where they stand. His word is right after Lucas on matters of canon, and our canon policy is Lucasfilms' official policy on canon. It doesn't have to make sense (and it frequently doesn't) but that's just how it is. -- SFH 02:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

The only way Loje Nella can be an accountant since he has a limbless worm-like body is in a robotic suit, like Earthworm Jim. Dantescifi 19:51, 12 August 2017 (UTC)