Holy holy holy holy holy holy crap crap. Good job Silly Dan. --MarcK [talk] 04:36, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. I didn't think it would get so long.... — Silly Dan 04:38, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- One note: There's an alien seen in the Alliance of Free Planets meeting in Star Wars 90 who may or may not be a Gotal. I suspect this, plus the Gotal in "Truce at Bakura", was the main source for claiming Antar 4 was in the Alliance of Free Planets at the time. But it's not clear, so I'm not adding the appearance. — Silly Dan 13:56, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
Didn't some author put it that the Gotals didn't like Force users because use of the Force could cause Gotals pain?
- Late response: that's in The Truce at Bakura. —Silly Dan (talk) 02:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Alternate quotes
Here are a couple of possibilities for the main quote. None of them are stellar, but I offer them as alternatives anyway:
- "When a Gotal gets closer to its intended target, he can sense the animal's electromagnetic aura . . . These same sensory abilities have made Gotal some of the most sought after hunters in the galaxy."
- ―Voren Na'al
- "It is said they can even detect the Force, although that has yet to be proven."
- ―Mammon Hoole
- ". . . it is rumored that the finest gamblers in the galaxy learn to bluff by trying to trick Gotal acquaintances."
- ―Obo Rin
jSarek 05:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- These are good quotes. They should be used for section headings if not as a lead. I especially like the third one. --Eyrezer 09:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Switching to the third one. —Silly Dan (talk) 21:08, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- The first one has been added as well. The second isn't all that good, however: for every source that says "maybe they could pick up the Force" there's another which says "yes, they definitely could" (like The Truce at Bakura, The Essential Guide to Planets and Moons, and Nightlily.) —Silly Dan (talk) 02:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- Switching to the third one. —Silly Dan (talk) 21:08, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Gotals sensing the Force
There are contradictory sources which talk about how Gotal sensed the Force:
- Alien Anthology and Ultimate Alien Anthology say "a number of Jedi scholars believed that a properly trained Gotal may even be able to detect the Force," but both Jedi and Imperial research was "inconclusive."
- Galaxy Guide 4: Alien Races and The Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook say nothing.
- The Essential Guide to Planets and Moons describes the reaction to the Force as "painful" compared to the "unpleasant 'buzzing' sensation" they pick up from droids.
- The Databank says "Gotals detect the Force as an indistinct buzzing."
- Elusion Illusion apparently says the sensation was painful. (I haven't read it.)
- The Essential Guide to Alien Species says "it is said that they can even detect the Force, although this has yet to be proven."
- In The Truce at Bakura, Luke passes a Gotal guard. Remembering that Gotals felt the Force as a "vague buzzing" in their horns, he moves quickly past him to avoid causing the Gotal a headache.
- In Nightlily: The Lovers' Tale, Feltipern Trevagg perception of a Jedi Master as "a buzzing, shimmering sense", "a thick, strange buzzing in his cones that he had been told long ago" signified the Force, "a rushing, buzzing sensation in his cones, [a] strange humming confusion, almost like the presence of a high energy machine", and a "roar ... like the drumming of a high-desert gravel storm." Never specifically described as painful, though. —Silly Dan (talk) 23:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Tri-horned AEA member not being a Gotal
The tri-horned AEA member from Star Wars: X-Wing Rogue Squadron: The Phantom Affair looks nothing like a Gotal. He has three horns, and two smaller horns projected from the back of his head, while the Gotals have two horns, and that's final! User:Dantescifi
- Not according to canon, he isn't. User:Dantescifi
- If one member of the so-called "tri-horned species" is a Gotal, then the other one's a Gotal too. Ever heard of someone having an extra thumb? They're genetic anomalies. Cade
Calrayn 23:11, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
- In this case, it would depend on whether the character is outright named a Gotal in the source. It's possible an editor here just misidentified the character as a Gotal, in which case I'd agree with Dante. But if the source says, "Hey, Bob's a Gotal," we have to go with that. Dante, can you link to the article or image of the character you're talking about? ~Savage 14:59, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
- I believe the decision to merge was based off of Lishma, who had three horns and was identified as a Gotal in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia and Ultimate Alien Anthology. Here is the other three-horned guy for reference. Incidentally, both The Last Command (comics) and X-Wing Rogue Squadron 5 were penciled by the same artist.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 15:30, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Isn't there loads of issues with the illustrations of the alien characters in the The Last Command (comics) though? Most of them aren't even the right species. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:31, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
- I believe the decision to merge was based off of Lishma, who had three horns and was identified as a Gotal in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia and Ultimate Alien Anthology. Here is the other three-horned guy for reference. Incidentally, both The Last Command (comics) and X-Wing Rogue Squadron 5 were penciled by the same artist.--Exiled Jedi
- In this case, it would depend on whether the character is outright named a Gotal in the source. It's possible an editor here just misidentified the character as a Gotal, in which case I'd agree with Dante. But if the source says, "Hey, Bob's a Gotal," we have to go with that. Dante, can you link to the article or image of the character you're talking about? ~Savage
The Head cones in Gotal culture main section needs to be expanded, I don't know anything about them so I can't do it but can anyone else do it?