Talk: Fehlaaur'aitel'loro

Article milestones Date Process Result March 21, 2009 Good article nomination Success March 29, 2009 Good article by Grunny June 13, 2009 Featured article nomination Success June 22, 2009 Featured article by Grunny
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Could this Be Grand Admiral Thrawn's clone? ~~ *User* 24.215.174.33

• I hope not. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20px 22:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Well if it was this Indeed would be a suprise *User * 24.215.174.33

• And possibly one of the worst ideas ever. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20px 22:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so it would make sense because we never found out if his clone died or not *User * 24.215.174.33

• But his clone would find his way into the new Galactic Empire? That has bad idea written all over it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20px 22:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

You Never Know they could have though he was Thrawn who went into hiding to regain health but then they would have to explain why is so young looking. *User *24.215.174.33

• Please, stop this speculation. This isn't the place for it. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20px 22:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I do not think that this a Chiss. He clearly has white skin.Ultimate Mandalore 23:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Edit War

• For pity's sake, McEwok, I don't know why you're splitting hairs to such an absurd degree. In the Moff Council first appearance we see five individuals. In the preview appearance, we see five incredibly similar individuals, plus Konrad Rus. There's a Chiss Moff in the first appearance, there's a Chiss Moff in the second. Artwork is often inconsistent - even in Legacy, see the various depictions of Nyna Calixte. Unless you're proposing some sort of absurd "solution" where there are two Chiss Moffs, who never appear together, and one of them only ever appears once, then these people are the same individual. For the record, I don't see the vast difference of appearance that you do, and its certainly no more of a difference than that of the two depictions of Geist, for instance. QuentinGeorge 03:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
  • To whit, when we first see the Moffs, we have:

Veed

Calixte

Unnamed Brown Haired Guy

Unnamed Blonde Guy

Unnamed Chiss

• No one's debating that brown haired guy = Geist, and that Blonde = Yage, so why this absurd "debate" over whether the Chiss is Fehlaaur? QuentinGeorge 03:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
  • And to prove my point about Geist's differing appearances...

File:Geist.JPG|Legacy: Broken File:Geist.jpg|Legacy: Claws of the Dragon

• For Christ's sake, McEwok, this is stupid. Leave this shit for your wank threads at TFN. Kuralyov 03:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

• QG: it's very simple, IMHO. I think the two pages ought to be kept seperate until we have direct proof that Fehlaaur was the Chiss Moff on the council in 130 ABY (contrast with Geist and Yage, who we know, by name, were on the Council then). Otherwise, Fehlaaur could have simply replaced a previous Chiss Moff at some date in the subsequent seven years.
• At the very least, I'd revert the edit Kuralyov made (to the locked article), so that the question is discussed. If we're keeping the two pages merged, I'd also add in a reference to the appearance in Legacy #1, which has been lost in the merge/redirects. --McEwok 13:31, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
  • McEwok, I've taken your side in this sort of conflict before, but this time I'm half-convinced you're disagreeing with the simplest, most obvious conclusion just for the sake of having an argument. The article could say "was probably the same Chiss Moff who was present when Darth Krayt declared himself Emperor" or you could go ask for confirmation on some official forum, but for now, the articles should remain merged. Unless there's some evidence other than a seven-year gap and minor changes in appearance (on the order of those found in other comics for depictions of people who are explicitly ID'd as the same person), I can't imagine the artists and writers intending there to be two different characters here. —Silly Dan _(talk) 14:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

• No, I'm making a genuine point here. Geist is identified directly by name, but Fehlaaur isn't. In fact, I'm going to have to be a doubly-awkward Ewok now, and ask what evidence we have that Yage was the sixth Moff in #1 -- I think all we have for confirmation is something Jan Duursema said in an IRC chat? Don't get me wrong, I strongly suspect that those are meant to be Fehlaaur and Yage in #1, but Wookieepedia has to be precise about what canon tells us, and in this case, it doesn't tell us that that is Fehlaaur. For now, therefore, I would have kept the articles seperate.
• As I said already, though, faced with multiple admins who're disagreeing with me, I have no problem with keeping the merged article (after all, I suspect it'll be confirmed eventually); but I do think the merged article needs to be tweaked, as I discussed above. Can I suggest we shift the focus of the discussion onto that? --McEwok 17:36, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

• • • Silly Dan is right. McEwok, stop it. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20px 15:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
      • McEwok, the whole Moff Council was present in Legacy 1, and now again in Legacy 15. Everyone else is accounted for. Therefore, Fehlaaur is the previously unnamed Chiss Moff in issue 1. I don't see why there has to be a debate over a clear thing like this. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20px 02:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
        • If this is really so damn important, I believe there's a site where you can contact Jan Duursema.--Darth Oblivion 22:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Affiliation

Wouldn't Fehlaaur also be affiliated with the Ascendancy?--Darth Oblivion 22:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

• Most likely. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20px 23:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

name

shouldnt fehlaaur be his family name and his core name would be raitell or something Asdf1239 07:38, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

That's the convention seen with previous Chiss, but it's never been explained why they call him Fehlaaur normally. Grunny ^(Talk) 08:21, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

well, would it be alright if i made a redirect to here from Raitell? Asdf1239 21:36, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Well, he's only ever been referred to as Fehlaaur and Fehlaaur'aitel'loro, so there is no evidence that Raitell could be his core name, and therefore, it is only speculation. Grunny ^(Talk) 23:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

legacy 45

shouldnt it be updated now with legacy 45 out today

00:47, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

It will be when I get the issue. Grunny ^(Talk) 01:02, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

it looks like he doesnt appear at all according to the legacy 45 article

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09:42, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Fehlaaur's Fate

What ever happened to Fehlaaur, the last mention of him seems to be in the attack on the hidden temple, presumably he was stationed on the war hammer with Rulf Yage, so I would guess that he either defected with Yage, or was killed for not defecting, any ideas. --Dkwolf27 15:28, October 2, 2011 (UTC)