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Battles

Were Daala's attempts at Dac worthy of mention? Or not enought to constitute a battle? --SparqMan 20:11, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Is it referred to as Dac in any official sources? Everywhere else I've seen it called Mon Calamari, including the Databank. --Shane613 18:04, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • I think it's been called Dac here to avoid confusing Mon Cal the planet with Mon Cal the species - Kwenn
    • It's called Dac in both the Jedi Prince series and the recent sourcebook Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds. The latter is the one that reconciled the two names as being the Basic and the native name, respectively. Additionally, other recent EU has begun using the name "Dac" when referring to Quarren CIS members (since they would hardly use the name of their rivals). QuentinGeorge 05:53, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
      • Well, 'Dac' is just not common enough. Few places have mentioned it that way. 'Mon Calamari (planet)' would be much better. Not reason it isn't that already. --Andrettin 21:06, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)
        • How common a name is is irrelevant. Dac is the name given to it by the natives, and thus the official name; Mon Calamari was a name given to it by offworlders. MarcK 22:45, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)
          • So, since a barely-canon kids series and a rpg rulebook say its Dac, we should throw out the 30 or so novels that refer to it as Mon Calamari?2Guns
            • No one's throwing away anything. Pay attention. Mon Calamari is the erroneous human name, Dac is the indigenous name. QuentinGeorge 06:34, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
              • Actually, it's not even erroneous; it's just the regular word for it in Basic, much as the proper English word for Germany is Germany, even though it's called Deutschland in German. jSarek 07:56, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
                • Sorry, I wasn't exactly clear what I meant. It's a perfectly valid name, but it's mainly used by non-natives, and Quarren find it offensive. QuentinGeorge 08:17, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
                  • They are both valid names, but Mon Calamari is much more accepted. There is no G-Canon source, but we have about 40 C-canon sources refering to it as Mon Cal, and about 2 calling it Dac. By your logic, Nal Hutta should be listed under Evocar, since that is the indigenous name, and I'm sure the remaining Evocii find Nal Hutta offensive.2Guns
                  • Irrelevant, since the Evocii are a) extinct, and b) no longer ruling Nal Hutta. The Quarren and Mon Calamari (both who call the planet Dac) still rule their planet. QuentinGeorge 19:40, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
        • They would find it offensive...if they weren't extinct. But here at the Star Wars Wiki, we use official names, not the most common name. That's why Trade Federation fighters are called Variable Geometry Self-Propelled Battle Droid instead of Vulture Droids or Droid starfighters in their article. -- SFH 17:04, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)
          • Why are we considering Dac the official name, though? Most sources, including the Databank say the official name for the planet is Mon Calamari.2Guns
            • The databank sometimes uses names that are more popular, but not as accurate. For example, what they call the "clone turbo tank," we call the A6 Juggernaut Heavy Assault Vehicle/wheeled. -LtNOWIS 22:17, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
              • The Databank however does note that the proper name of the "clone turbo tank" is HAVw A6 and that it's commonly called the Juggernaut. Its article on Mon Calamari makes no mention of Dac. Also, no Quarren character has ever (to my knowledge) corrected a human for using the "incorrect" and offensive name for the planet. Though to be fair, the Quarren are rarely used as more than background characters, and I can't remember if there's been any scene in canon of a human calling the planet "Mon Calamari" in the presence of a Quarren. Hopefully some writer will have such a scene in the future and resolve the issue once and for all. 68.47.234.131 06:46, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
                • Actualy this helps alot, i had thought that Dac and Mon Cal were different planets. and i don't think that those are the only two sources that call it Dac. All the bio's of Admiral Ackbar that i've read say he was born on Dac Needa
                  • Wait, wasnt Mon-Calamari also a level in the podracing game for ps2, becuase if it is, why dosnt it appear on the appearences list?
                    • I am sure this arguement has been resolved at this point,quarren assossiations and newer things makeing reference to dac and such, but if anybody else wants to throw their two dataries in please go to the the trandosha article and argue its name because it clearly has several also, maybe coruscants name should be argued aswell, dont the taung have a say in what there homeworld is named officially.

Language

According to the Quarren entry on the Databank, the Mon Calamari and the Quarren speak the same language, though the Mon Cals spoke Basic more frequently. However, the article on Dac states that there are two languages. Which source is correct? 222.153.174.56 14:18, 4 Oct 2005

  • Databank and various reference books indicate Mon Cals and Quarren share a language, RPG sources give them two separate languages, so it is a matter of conflicting canon.JustinGann 20:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

The Empire being driven off Dac

Any source that sheds more light on this battle? Would like to know more, since it would have been quite a significant event in the GCW, especially since they weren't re-subjugated by the Empire. VT-16 00:03, 31 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Mermens?

Was Dac/Mon Calamari once home to the Mermen? What were they? What source are they from? Are they canon? MyNz 22:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

  • The extinct Mermen are from the book Dark Apprentice, so they are canonJustinGann 20:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Name

Are we sure we want to address this as Dac and not Mon Calamari? I mean, even the databank calls it Mon Calamari. --UVnet 23:27, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

i have come to beleive that the planet dac is much like trandosha being called dosha and hsskor by the natives though the mon cal are generally a peacful race in rare casses they can be selfesh and took it opn themselves to name the planet after themselves the otehr sentient race's of the planet probably disagreed probably one of the main sources of the quarren mon cal conflicts

  • Dan Wallace has something to say about the Dac/Mon Cal dispute over at TF.N's forums. Basically, he's of the opinion that it should be called Mon Calamari - his use of "Dac" in Geonosis and the Outer Rim was more of a reference to older sources than a definitive name for the planet. He also suggests Mon Cal is more widely-known, and its use would better benefit the Wookieepedia. I agree. Dac is as much a nickname as "Thrawn" is - Kwenn 15:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
    • I agree with the above. (Ulicus 22:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC))
      • Well, then, I am going to be bold and move it to Mon Calamari. --UVnet 22:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
        • Dac isn't a nickname; if anything, Mon Calamari is. Dac is the native name. - Lord Hydronium 22:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
          • OK I reverted my moving, but I seriously believe this should be further discussed until a solid resolution is decided. --UVnet 23:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • The Ackbar entry in the Essential Guide to Characters seems to indicate that "Mon Calamari" is the name of the planet – From the entry: "The Mon Calamari -- who had adopted the name of their world -- were air breathers..." Muuuuuurgh 05:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
    • The discussion have continued over at TFN, mostly on the subject of piped links. Should we not refer to Dac as Mon Calamari in most articles, since that is the most well-known and used name both in- and out-of-universe? Charlii 07:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
      • I think it should be moved back to Mon Calamari (planet), see my reasons here. --Azizlight 14:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
        • And see my reasons on why we should leave it at Dac on the same page. Thanos6 00:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
          • This is being tackled once and for all here. jSarek 05:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

1st app

Does Mon Calamari have a first appearance?

Population

I have change the species mix to be more to the Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds book.

I was just wondering about the data for the demographics of Dac's population. Does anyone know what era this data is supposed to represent so that I or someone else can add it in? I'm assuming its the clone wars era but I just want to make sure. --AdmiralEgbo 21:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Ring

The image of Mon Calamri in issue #20 of Star Wars Legacy shows the planet encircled by an articial ring which is essential a continuous dry dock. It resembles the ring around Geonosis (or our Saturn). Earlier descriptions of the planet always spooke of Mon Cal drydocks circling the planet, but never so extensive to be combined into one large ring. I'm wondering if the comic is implying that eventually the drydocks expanded until it just made sense to connect them. At any rate, I'm thinking a pic of the comic image should be uploaded explaing the appearance of the planet as of the SW Legacy era. Anyone concur?

Medleystudios72 00:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Name, again

It appears, with the latest Star Wars: Legacy issues, that in Cade Skywalker's day, everyone calls the planet Dac. Forum:CT:Article naming conventions says the later name is preferred, so we'd keep it here. I presume we're all OK with keeping most of the various Battle of Mon Calamari articles, Mon Calamari Fish Market, Mon Calamari Shipyards, etc., at their current locations since their names either canonically include the words "Mon Calamari" or refer to the planet during a period where Mon Calamari was the usual name, right? —Silly Dan (talk) 21:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

  • I sure hope so, because it would be a nightmare changing every single reference to Mon Calamari. There's still references around the site from the previous time this article was at Dac. -- I need a name (Complain here) 22:13, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Italian Translation

The statement that Mon Calamari can be translated as "my squid" in Italian is not entirely true. Thee possessive pronouns in Italian, of the first person are "Mio" Mia" Miei" and "Mie" depending on gender and plurality. Therefore "my squid" would be "miei calamari." I am not entirely sure, but I do believe that "mon" is a French possessive pronoun, so "Mon Calamari" would be a mix of Italian/French. --Jack of Diamonds 20:02, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Back to Mon Cal

Okay, so the Atlas spoiler are all over the web, and the people at TFN say that the planet is refered to as Mon Calamari throuout the book. Should we now change it back or what? MauserComlink 20:44, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Is the Atlas written in-universe post Legacy period? Because I think the reason for it being referred to as Dac is that's what it's called circa 137 ABY. I don't have any of the sources though. -- —Harrar (Cut the comm chatter) 21:45, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

quote

the current quote is about the mon calamari, not dac. mon cal lauding as an irrelevant lead quote absolutely sickens me. ASDF123920px|-DISCUSSION- 02:28, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

  • I don't know what the quote was at the time of that posting, but the current one has almost no relevance to the planet itself. It's simply talking about the One Sith's scheme to poison the planet and says nothing about the planet itself. You could replace the word "Dac" in the quote with any other planet and the quote would still have the same amount of descriptive information about the planet. I propose a change. Kjølen 05:15, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
    • The quote used to be one of Mon Mothma's about the Mon Calamari people, and you are right, the quote I just removed was rather weak, the new one I just added should be much better. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 05:54, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Main image

I recently uploaded a new image of Dac from Star Wars: Behind the Magic that I think would fit the infobox better. The current image is of pretty low quality, and BtM depicts the planet much more realistically. The only thing is that the current one shows the planet in full, while the BtM one is cut off toward the bottom. There was another, slightly fuller image in BtM, but unfortunately Ackbar's giant floating head was in the way. Feel free to add other voting options below. Xicer920px(Combadge) 21:10, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

File:Mon Calamari.jpg|Option 1: Current image File:Calamari-BtM.jpg|Option 2: Behind the Magic

Option 1

  1. I do like the BtM image, but unless it's absolutely horrid quality (which it's not) I'm gonna go for the full image. - JMAS 20px Hey, it's me! 16:55, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Per JMAS. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:07, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Option 2

  1. Xicer920px(Combadge) 21:10, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Mon Cala?

So, it appears in the upcoming episode of Clone Wars, Dac is referred to as Mon Cala. I guess this will have to be incorporated into this article... — Hunter Kahn 06:49, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

  • Oh my God, who do these people think they are changing the name of Mon Calamari yet again, Dac is tolerable, but this new name is just pointless. This kind of pointless nonsense is why Star Wars canon is officially a joke, a terrible, terrible joke, that isn't funny anymore. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 06:58, September 14, 2011 (UTC)
    • I hear ya. As far as dealing with it in this article, though, it should be an easy enough fix. I suppose we can change from "Dac, as it was called in Mon Calamarian, Quarrenese, and Basic, also known as Mon Calamari and sometimes simply called Calamari..." to something like "Dac, as it was called in Mon Calamarian, Quarrenese, and Basic, also sometimes known as Mon Calamari, Mon Cala or Calamari..." — Hunter Kahn 07:03, September 14, 2011 (UTC)
      • I put it in with the wording "also known as Mon Calamari and sometimes simply called Mon Cala or Calamari", since the new databank/encyclopedia makes it clear that the planet is still also called Mon Calamari. Still... —Milo Fett[Comlink] 16:41, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
        • Hopefully everyone is in agreement with my change. In quotation marks, just like TCW's pointless new name of the CIS, to ensure that this does conflict with canon. Milo's note in the bts has been tweaked a bit, just minor linking, and I placed the never ending {{TCWRetcon}} tag on the page. At this point, we should all know that TCW will not stop retconning planets, sadly. JangFett (Talk) 16:59, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
  • Well, apparently, "Mon Cala" is George Lucas's official name for the world, as revealed in the commentary here. Since this is T-canon, or possibly G-canon, I suppose the article should be moved... ~Savagelink=User talk:SavageBob 04:55, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

ARC delta 08 (talk) 09:44, August 7, 2016 (UTC)
Is it correct that the Dac has the category Category:Destroyed_planets?

Edit suggestion: Hyperlink Gial Ackbar name by the top of the article.

I tried hyperlinking the first mention of Gial Ackbar near the top of the article in the quote, as my understanding is that the first reference should be hyperlinked. The name was previously hyperlinked, but not until another reference further down in the article. However, despite trying a couple of times, and my only changes were adding the [ [ and ] ] characters, the system wouldn't let me save as it said it was a non-whitelisted external link. I'm pretty confidence it's not an external link, but... —Unsigned comment by 171.98.105.199 (talk • contribs)