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Canon

Battlefront got a lot of things wrong with the Canon, and the completley made up their own Jet trooper. Seeing as it isn't included on the Star Wars databank, I think this page should be revised to match the ones seen in the Clone Wars miniseries, and the ones talked about in the Guide to the Grand Army of the Republic -- Xilentshadow900 00:44, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Image.

Can we get that image made smaller, again, XilentShadow? Cmdr. J. Nebulax 00:02, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

- sure thing Xilentshadow900 00:08, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Thank you. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 19:29, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Move?

Move to Clone jet trooper? Admiral J. Nebulax 23:45, 23 Nov 2005 (UTC)

I agree, plus there is needed a full capitalization review here excepting acronyms. --Thinortolan 12:38, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)

I'll start working on that as well. Hopefully, we'll get word on the move. Admiral J. Nebulax 12:39, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you for finally moving this. Admiral J. Nebulax 17:48, 3 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Can't we just merge every clone class into one long page? --Dumac 21:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hell no. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 21:56, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Edit war with Battlefront refference

I think the note is mostly valid, but could be less subjective, for example changing it to just "however, note that Battlefront has several discrepancies with official canon" instead of concluding that it is unlikely (in fact I think the Fett-like jetpack is more credible than the ugly Aerial Clone Trooper Captain one from the miniatures game). On the other hand, a note to Jerrycurl: I'm not such a veteran but I would say that it is not a way to start here deleting parts and redoing reverts without debating about it on the Talk pages. --Thinortolan 12:58, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)

It is perfectly fine the way it was before Jerrycurl started deleting everything. Admiral J. Nebulax 13:06, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- What are we doing now? Its fine the way it is. Leave it.--Xilentshadow900 14:19, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  - That would be Ty's fault. Admiral J. Nebulax 15:17, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    - I actually much prefered it when it had the 2 different types of pictures, rather than one concept picture. Would people mind if I put the actual pictures back in? -Jaymach Ral'Tir 19:29, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
      - Well, it messes up the whole format of the article, since it is very small. Admiral J. Nebulax 19:47, 27 Nov 2005 (UTC)
        Besides, one of them is incorrect, and the other is an action figure.--Xilentshadow900 00:05, 28 Nov 2005 (UTC)
        That's true. Admiral J. Nebulax 00:30, 28 Nov 2005 (UTC)
I believe the Battlefront jet trooper is canon. It probably is an early form of the trooper, and then later on there came more divisions and versions of the trooper, like the Sky Corps and Aerial Captain. And Battlefront doesn't go against canon that much, just mainly pilots piloting Droid Starfighters, ARC Troopers before the Battle of Kamino and Dark Troopers before the Battle of Talay.--Bly1993
- It doesn't matter. The sentence stays.--Xilentshadow900 20:00, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Why was my edit reverted? I have no agenda here; I simply reworded the sentence so it sounded (in my opinion) a little less biased against Battlefront. Who are we to dictate what's 'unlikely' to be canon or not, unless it's something obscenely obvious? --Fade 20:50, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Anything in Battlefront II, especially anything not having to do with the story, is held under close scrutinization. Most of it isn't canon.--Xilentshadow900 20:56, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)
  - That doesn't prove that it's 'unlikely', does it? It means there is a reason to doubt it. It still could go either way, unless you have something more concrete than that as justification for it being unlikely. --Fade 20:59, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)
    - It is unlikely because of battlefront's tendency to go against the canon, as well as it not being in any other sources.--Xilentshadow900 21:12, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)
      - Is it contradicted by other sources? If not, it still stands as canon. --Fade 21:15, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)
        Yes, it is contradicted with other sources in many examples. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:19, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)
        Then cite them in Behind the scenes. Justify it. We can't just throw comments like that in without saying why. I only changed it to sort out what sounded like blatant bias/speculation to me. --Fade 21:24, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)
        "Is it contradicted by other sources? If not, it still stands as canon." Not when it comes to battlefront. Leave it as it is.--Xilentshadow900 21:25, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)
        As I said, there are numerous things that Battlefront and its sequel have done that go against official canon. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:27, 6 Dec 2005 (UTC)
        Let's settle this. There are several types of jet troopers, Sky Corps, Clone Blaze trooper, etc, so let's make this page describing jet troopers in general. Perhaps the Battlefront jet trooper is another type of jet trooper. So, we can make the BF jet trooper into a different page, entitled Jet Trooper Commando, since it plays a role as a commando- like soldier in the game.--Bly1993
No. The Sky Corps aren't A kind of Jet trooper, they're a bunch of Jet troopers on this page. And Clone Blaze Troopers don't exist, only in that [Redacted by administration] ROTS game.--Xilentshadow900 19:29, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Um, Xilent, despite the fact that games go against canon, clone blaze troopers technically do exist. Admiral J. Nebulax 19:40, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)
  - Well, the game goes dramatically against the canon. I mean, were the things in there put into the databank or something?--Xilentshadow900 19:45, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)
    - It doesn't matter if games go against canon. It's still technically a real thing in the Star Wars universe. Admiral J. Nebulax 19:46, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC)
This "Battlefront isn't canon" stuff is nonsense. It doesn't fit perfectly 100% with everything=/="Oh noes, none of it is real!!111!" Havac 20:51, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- Battlefront and Battlefront II go against canon all the time. Some times I wonder if those two games should even be used as canon sources. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 22:25, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
  - Not true in this instance, and I agree that should be removed. The battles and specific names of units in the Battlefronts may go against canon, but the vehicles, characters, units, and locations do not, according to Leland Chee. --Thetoastman 17:26, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
    - For God's sake, I don't say that they aren't canon, I just say that they go against canon in certain places. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 18:42, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

A lot of stuff is canon, but at least Battlefront stays to topics in the movies. I think it is more realistic than the Yuzhan Vong idiots. I mean, does everything have to be based off of some stupid Comic Book. Anyways, it's a good game. It wouldn't be a best seller if it wasn't. User Talk: Super Destroyer 92 15:08, July 3, 2006

This has nothing to do about whether it's a good game or not. Both Battlefronts have gone against canon. And the Yuuzhan Vong, despite how you think about them, are canon. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 21:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Merge?

Why does this need to be merged with Sky Corps? The jet trooper wasn't exclusive to that group; there are jet troopers in other corps and legions in the GAR. That'd be like merging 501st Legion with stormtrooper - Kwenn

I thought the only the Sky Corps had jet troopers
- Well, you're wrong. So stop screwing it up. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:23, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
  - Way to consult everyone else.--Xilentshadow900 22:10, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)
    - Well, if this person does it again for some reason, I'll personally put up the request to ban him/her. Admiral J. Nebulax 23:43, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Better Pictures

Why do we keep sticking with this picture of a toy model of a skytrooper? Why don't we get some really good pictures of jettroopers or of the different types. Stop deleting peoples pictures. Instead: discuss them. 69.183.73.91 16:15, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

I actually agree with this guy. We need better pics then some Hasbro toy. The caption is OOU. Wolfdog 16:17, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)
- This is much better. Admiral J. Nebulax 19:12, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Article length and pictures.

Okay, we have a serious problem. Either we need to greatly expand the article, make the Aerial clone trooper captain article again, or remove some pictures. Admiral J. Nebulax ^(talk) 15:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Phase II picture

We really need a new Phase II picture. The current one is just from a loading screen. I'm going off to find one right now, but if anyone else could help...Unit 8311 17:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I personally think it's fine, but we should definitely keep our options opened. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe there's one on the BII website...? Unit 8311 19:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
  - Anyway, why is an image from a loading screen bad? —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 21:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
    - 1) Loading screens aren't really canon 2) It's not that good a picture anyway 3) It should be shown in action, not striking a pose 4) Nobody likes loading screens anyway :-) Unit 8311 14:04, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
      - 1) The type of clone trooper is canon. 2) The image is fine. 3) Half the images on Wookieepedia show their subjects in a pose, not in action. 4) Opinions of loading screens don't matter here. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 14:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
        Well, it's not terrible, but surely a brief browse on Google images or gaming sites might turn up something? I'll go check IGN...Unit 8311 14:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
        Found one. Uploading it now...Unit 8311 14:36, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
        Ta-da! Unit 8311 14:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
        And that image is worse. Reverting. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
        And that image is worse how?! Unit 8311 08:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
        The background is distracting, and the jet trooper himself is too dark. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 12:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
        Simple solution. Crop out the background, and lighten it. EDIT: and it also shows more of the trooper. Unit 8311 13:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
        Sorry Jack, but I agree with Unit 8311, the Mustafar one is better. It shows the actual jets on the jet trooper, which the other version did not. I cropped the image down to just show the trooper as well. - JMAS 13:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
        Thanks, JMAS. Unit 8311 14:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
        And I reverted. The background is still distracting, the jet trooper is still too dark, and the loading screen image is of a much better quality. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
        <sigh> Thanks to Jaymach, we're stuck with this low-quality image. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 23:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
        
        I agree. It's just an edited version of that loading screen image....hang on. Does this make it a fan-created image? Unit 8311 20:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
        1) Who are you agreeing with? 2) No. It's not a fan-created image. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:40, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
        Err....I was agreeing with you, Jack. I thought that was obvious. Unit 8311 20:41, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
        I don't think you understand what I meant. I meant that, because Jaymach went and deleted that loading screen image, we're stuck with the low-quality image of a jet trooper on Mustafar. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Equipment's RP Troopers

Could the Repulsorpack (RP) troopers in Equipment be considered the same as the Jet Troopers?--CT-5619 ^{helmet comlink} 13:55, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Possibly. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 14:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- I wouldn't be so sure. Unit 8311 15:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  - Why do you say that? —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 15:06, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
    - Because repulsorpacks are obviously some form of repulsorlifts and jetpacks are more rocket-based examples of technology. In any case, they're given a different name, which means they're different. Unit 8311 17:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
      - The clone blaze troopers have a different name, yet they are still clone jet troopers. Same for the aerial clone trooper captains. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 22:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
        The only thing the blaze troops have in common with the jets is that they fly. Maybe RP troops are some sort of variant of the jets, but unless there is a source that names them as the same, then we must simply assume that they were different. Unit 8311 18:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
        Actually, no we don't. Right now, we have evidence that supports the possibility that the RP troops are a branch of the jet troopers. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 21:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
        Uh...what evidence do we have? Jet trooper implies jets, whereas Repulsorpack troopers implies that they use repulsorlifts, not jets. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
        Right... I was looking at something else. My bad. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 21:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Action Figure

Wasn't there an action figure made based on the concept art?Tocneppil 20:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

clone jet troopers during the clone wars?

When do jet troopers appear in the clone wars? Do they appear in clone wars episode 7? Is Denal a jet trooper?

Names?

Do you know any names of clone jet troopers?

I do believe that the Clone trooper who narrated the campaign in BF2 for the cutscenes was a jettrooper (the clone jettroop seen in mission loading screens), as well as i believe that the Scout Trooper seen later on in load screens was also the clone narrater. 12.228.55.163 21:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Rex?

Is rex a jet trooper?

Clone jet troopers vs. clone troopers using jetpacks

From what I can tell, half the history section and all of the known members include info on clones who simply used jetpacks at one time or another. Should we remove this info and simply say that regular clone troopers were known to have used jetpacks on certain occasions? Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 15:25, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Definitely. Prima Battlefront Guides describes them as a separate division. Mauser 15:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

--ARC commander3 16:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)No. Because they are a totaly differrent division. And then what would the sky corps be made of... what regular clones!

Yeah. In fact, every clone listed under known members has never been identified as a clone jet trooper. You've simply assumed that because they use jetpacks they are automatically jet troopers, when there is nothing to back that up. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 16:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And the clones that do use jetpacks like Denal, Coric, Zeer, Hez, they're all jet troopers. They are all so mensioned in True colors, battlefront (I and II) as jet troopers not regular clones.--ARC commander3 16:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And what about all these appearences:Republic Commando: True Colors (Mentioned only) Clone Wars Chapter 22 Star Wars: Battlefront (First apperance) Star Wars: Battlefront II Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith game Star Wars: The Clone Wars (film) Star Wars: The Clone Wars (TV series)

Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Duel of the Droids"
Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Twilight Disaster"

You're missing my point. Nothing has identified the clones using jetpacks in The Clone Wars film and TV series as jet troopers. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 16:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Denal?

Do you think Denal is a jet trooper? He does wear a jetpack in every appearence?--ARC commander3 16:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

See the above topic. - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 16:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I know, I know... but if he wears a jetpack in every appearence, then he has to be a jet trooper. He never doesn't wear a jetpack, so he should be a jet trooper. That's proof itself.--ARC commander3 16:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- No, it's not. It's called original research, and it's not allowed. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 18:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Known commanders?

Do you know who any of their commanders are? Oh yeah, and which page(s) do they appear in True colors?--ARC commander4 19:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Appearance in True Colors?

On which page or pages do the clone jet troopers appear in True Colors?--ARC commander4 20:04, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

A hint in the Clone Wars...?

I still think the clones that fought in the battle of Christophsis and the mission to skytop station were jet troopers. The clones on Christophsis wore white armor with BLUE markings, they couldn't be Rex and Denal since there were more of them wearing blue marked armor. Denal should be a known jet trooper since he always wore a jetpack in ALL his missions (so does a jet trooper). The clone troopers during the battle of Christophsis used jetpacks during the whole mission (they didn't take them off). Jet troopers fought in the 501st and in Torrent Company and so did the clones on Christophsis. It's clear they ARE jet troopers. —Unsigned comment by ARC commander4 (talk • contribs)
- We already discussed this above, though back then you were still going by "ARC commander3." Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 19:37, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I know, I know, but I still have a feeling that they are jet troopers (look at the first paragraph I wrote if you want to know why).--ARC commander4 21:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'll repeat myself: if nothing has called them jet troopers, they are not jet troopers. A clone using a jetpack on one mission does not automatically make that clone a jet trooper. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 22:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

The Battle of Geonosis...?

When did this appear? "In the Battle of Geonosis, a jet trooper was assigned to acquire a geonosian power source that fell from one of the Geonosians. Thanks to the recovery, this core gave the Republic secret coordinates on where CIS bases were stationed on the planet." Where can I read it or watch it?--ARC commander4 20:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- In the training level for Star Wars: Battlefront II. Although I believe it was a holocron, not a "power source". TheAinMAP 22:37, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
  - It was a holocron. I changed the sentence accordingly. TheAinMAP 23:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Seasontwo video?

Watch this video http://theclonewars.cartoonnetwork.com/?episodeID=0. Could jet troopers have appeared in the the 1:05th - 1:15 seconds. The clones in yellow armor and had jetpacks. They sure look like jet troopers to me. Also there are others scenes like the clones with flamethrowers (blaze troopers also used flamethrowers), the clones that were floating and had red visiors. Please watch the video. I cannot say for sure that they are jet troopers. Thanks.--ARC commander4 22:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Incorrect article?

In the article it says "Jet troopers also took part in the battle of Coruscant when Jedi Master Saesee Tiin landed in a Republic Star Destroyer that had been heavily damaged, they jumped out of the lower rear hangar bay with some jet troopers on to the nearest Trade Federation cruiser. Taking control, Tinn had the ship fire its cannons on the nearest Providence-class carrier." . These weren't jet troopers, they were clone marines. Could somebody fix it?--ARC commander4 20:38, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
- Be bold —Nayayentalk 21:05, September 3, 2009 (UTC)