Merge
Maybe this should be merged with the Galaxy… --Imp 02:20, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
This doesn't make sense
How did Senator Grebileps's expedition get past this? How about Ship? Or the Silentium and Abominor? There would have to be a whole lot more openings. --218.103.254.213 22:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- Grebleips's expedition was never confirmed to have left the galaxy. Ship and the Silentium and Abominor might well have traversed the disturbance at sublight speeds, given that their journeys apparently took quite some time. If not, their more advanced technology might have allowed them to circumvent the disturbance. jSarek 22:30, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Intergalactic Banking Clan
If this hyperspace barrier thing prevents extragalactic travel, then what about the Intergalactic Banking Clan? Their very name implies that it's possible. —Unsigned comment by 79.66.10.153 (talk • contribs)
- Their name may be a reference to the dwarf galaxies that orbit the galaxy like the Rishi Maze. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- Or, the term has become watered down from its original meaning, and the writers don't realize they should be say either "interstellar", or "INTRAgalactic", space. --ChrisK 13:09, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
Extragalactic?
Why would it be extragalactic when it's located at the edge of the Galaxy (which is still part of the main Galactic disc) and not beyond it? —Unsigned comment by Emporer of Cynisism (talk • contribs)
Surprisingly one of the most sound theories in Star Wars
Quite simply, what they are describing is a galactic termination shock, heliopause, or similar conceptualization. Such a thing would indeed be the literal edge of the galaxy, where the multiple interstellar energies produced by the confluence of the billions of stars throughout would finally fade away to the point of being overpowered by those rays and energies being produced from extragalactic sources. This "bubble point" (as alluded to in the Wikipedia article) would by necessity extend a good deal beyond the visible stars and/or galactic arms themselves, and thus, in the sense that the term "the galaxy" means the galaxy's habitable regions, outside of it, or "extragalactic". For a series that relies on so many fantastical elements (X-Wing dogfighting, anyone?), the Disturbance (just as the Barrier does in Star Trek) has far more links to hard science fiction. --ChrisK 13:09, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
The Empire Strikes Back Scene
What about the scene form Episode 5? You can clearly see the rebels were outside of the galaxy, so this hyperspace barrier must be a myth. —Unsigned comment by JediMercenary (talk • contribs)
The Unknown Regions
Doesn't The Unknown Regions say that this was possibly created by the Celestials? Chack Jadson (Talk) 15:31, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
Dan Wallace's thoughts
Thanks to StarWars.com shutting down their forums, we may need to find the archive for our link to the thread in which he speaks. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:28, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Here's Tm's list of archived forum posts. I looked through all of the ones with a matching URL, but there doesn't appear to be anything by Dan on the subject. I think that might end up being the case with any forum post whose URL wasn't corrected after the forum overhaul. If you'll recall, sw.com rejigged their forums a year ago so that new posts were on the front pages of threads rather than the back pages. Thus, all of our forum URLs were suddenly wrong. The archived threads for uncorrected URLs will likely point to the new, incorrect pages that those old URLs would have pointed you to after the overhaul. Menkooroo 04:37, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
- So it becomes a quest to manually search the archived forums for said pages of threads. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:51, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
Name
I noticed the "conjecture" naming warning about the title. Perhaps a rename to "The Edge of the Galaxy" or "Travel Beyond the Edges of the Galaxy" or "Problems With Travel Beyond the Edges of the Galaxy". Any Ideas? Any complaints?Jak Decidus 20:23, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
- None of those titles are any less conjectural. Do you have some specific issue with the present title? DD97Which bear is best? 04:33, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
- No, en.wiktionary org/wiki/conjecture is what conjecture means. Tell me, what is conjectural about "The Edge of the Galaxy"?Jak Decidus 14:11, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
- The term has not been used specifically in a Star Wars product in reference to the phenomenon described in the article. Per our naming policy (which incidentally supercedes any wikipedia policies since we're not them), in the absence of an officially sourced name the title for an article, a descriptive placeholder is to be used. While at first blush there's nothing wrong with the titles you suggest per se, the fact that none of them carries any greater canonical weight (and indeed, in some cases are less descriptive) makes the need to make any changes at all questionable. If you feel there may be a significant consensus to enact the changes you suggest, you may wish to create a new CT forum to make your case and accumulate support. But this seems to be a good deal of time and effort for a change of realtively minor impact. Which once again prompts me to ask: What is the motivation for this change? DD97Which bear is best? 14:58, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
- You have failed to address my question as to what is conjectural about the title;you have instead brought other insignificant arguments. But, indeed, what could have prompted my urge to change it? Oh, it couldn't be the first sentence of my post here. See, that would have been dumb. Let us recount: are you aware that the article in discussion has a warning at the top of the page that it is conjectural? I was actually proposing something. The problem I have with the current title is that in order for users who want to know something of whatever problem may exist with travel outside of the galaxy, they must actually know what the hypothesis is. It's a very short article, and with its current title, reading the article is a waste of time as we already know from the title. The Edge of the Galaxy is not only not conjectural, it allows the article to be expanded with whatever information should so appear as pertaining to the Edge of the Galaxy, and thereby remove article redundancy, reduce server costs, reduce search times, and would generally clean up wookieepedia.Jak Decidus 14:21, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
- There's no reason to become confrontational about this. You may want to review the links I referenced above if you haven't already, they address your primary question. If you are already aware of a source that specifically uses the phrase "The Edge of the Galaxy", by all means add it to the article and move accordingly. Keep in mind that in the absence of such an in-universe reference, the "conjecture" tag isn't going anywhere, regardless of what the title is. DD97Which bear is best? 15:26, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
- If I may butt in, the current title is clearly identifying the article's subject, a single phenomenom, not just "any danger there might be" so I'm against changing it to be something more vague. And yes, current title is conjecture as it's just a descriptive identification of the article subject that doesn't have proper name given by canonical sources. –Tm_T (Talk) 15:45, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed, I almost think Extra-galactic (planetary) is the better, more all-encompassing article for satisfying the above concerns. Its title is non-conjecture, to boot. DD97Which bear is best? 15:53, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
- You have failed to address my question as to what is conjectural about the title;you have instead brought other insignificant arguments. But, indeed, what could have prompted my urge to change it? Oh, it couldn't be the first sentence of my post here. See, that would have been dumb. Let us recount: are you aware that the article in discussion has a warning at the top of the page that it is conjectural? I was actually proposing something. The problem I have with the current title is that in order for users who want to know something of whatever problem may exist with travel outside of the galaxy, they must actually know what the hypothesis is. It's a very short article, and with its current title, reading the article is a waste of time as we already know from the title. The Edge of the Galaxy is not only not conjectural, it allows the article to be expanded with whatever information should so appear as pertaining to the Edge of the Galaxy, and thereby remove article redundancy, reduce server costs, reduce search times, and would generally clean up wookieepedia.Jak Decidus 14:21, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
- The term has not been used specifically in a Star Wars product in reference to the phenomenon described in the article. Per our naming policy (which incidentally supercedes any wikipedia policies since we're not them), in the absence of an officially sourced name the title for an article, a descriptive placeholder is to be used. While at first blush there's nothing wrong with the titles you suggest per se, the fact that none of them carries any greater canonical weight (and indeed, in some cases are less descriptive) makes the need to make any changes at all questionable. If you feel there may be a significant consensus to enact the changes you suggest, you may wish to create a new CT forum to make your case and accumulate support. But this seems to be a good deal of time and effort for a change of realtively minor impact. Which once again prompts me to ask: What is the motivation for this change? DD97Which bear is best? 14:58, October 10, 2011 (UTC)