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Come on...

thumb|100px ... the Togruta on the poster CAN only be her... 24.17.73.18 06:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Almost undoubtedly, but no confirmation=no inclusion. And sign your name on a talk page. Firebird 15:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes, there is. —Unsigned comment by 24.71.173.103 (talk • contribs)

Asoka Picture

Chack Jadson and I have been having an arguement over wether or not to post an Asoka picture I found on her page. Chack says it is too bad quality. What I say is, hey, it's the only Asoka picture we have! We might as well put it on to let people have an idea (even if it is a vague one) of what she looks like. This is the picture: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Tortuga_Lightsaberist_against_droid_starfighter.JPG Daniel0605 21:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Normally, I'd agree...but...really. That screenshot is just shit. Simply put. Really...it's impossible to get any worse. That sort of thing needs to stay away from this place. --Redemption25px(Talk) 21:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
  • You know I worked hard to get the images from the computer monitors shown for only a second during the Clone Wars videos, and you're calling my work shit. It seems you Wookiepedians are'nt very nice, or encouraging to new members. And I still disagree with you about the picture. The picture really tells a lot. It tells that Asoka is a Togruta Jedi, with a green lightsaber, that fights a Vulture Droid. I might just put the picture on. Even if you guys don't like it. Thanks for discouraging me to use Wookiepedia.

Daniel0605 15:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

    • Bear in mind that Redemption's views don't necessarily represent the views of the wiki. And the image is poor, though it does give us some information on the character. Why don't you just add the information in the text of the article, and wait until you or another can get a better and more suitable image? -- AdmirableAckbar [Talk] 16:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Yeah. I guess I'll do that. Though I can still post a link to the picture, right? Daniel0605 16:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
    • Well...it would appear to have been index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Image%3ATortuga+Lightsaberist+against+droid+starfighter.JPG deleted, I'm afraid. -- AdmirableAckbar [Talk] 16:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
  • So should I re-upload it to Wookiepedia, or just upload it somewhere else and put the link here?Daniel0605 17:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
  • I uploaded a slightly different version of the old infobox picture. Drewton 20px (Drewton's Holocron) 18:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Spelling

  • Hello, I'm just wondering if the spelling of Asoka has been seen anywhere (I know in the interview with George Lucas that it sounds like this). However, according to Lego's preliminary image of an AT-TE (loacted http://www.1000steine.com/brickset/images/7675-1.jpg here), Asoka is clearly spelt Ashoka. Of course Lego could have it wrong at the moment but this is the only spelling of the name that I've seen. NighthawkLeader 21:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
  • A-H-S-O-K-A right??????? well i can't wait!!! april 15th right???? omg im so excited. i want to see it the first day it comes out. WAIT Anakin can have a padawan?? I thought only masters could oh well <**> Ewokmenace 20:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Fourth para of Biography reads "After securing the Monastery, they discovered a protocol droid named 4A-7 who informed them the Huttlet was being in the dungeons." The end of that sentence should read "being HELD in the dungeons." Obi-Ben Wasabi 00:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
    • You know, if you see an error, you should fix it instead of complaining about it. Luckily I was here and I fixed it. Dr.Kermit 17:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Padawan

Hang on- 'She showed eagerness to prove herself worthy to be the Padawan of Anakin Skywalker...'. This means she wanted to be Anakin's apprentice! It does'nt say if she was. Darth Oompa Loompa 18:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

And, maybe she wanted to be his apprentice to get powerful! I sense the Dark Side in our midst! Darth Oompa Loompa 18:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Alas, the original text of the article on starwars.com states "This young Togruta is eager to prove herself as a worthy Padawan to her bold Master, Anakin Skywalker" (italics mine). jSarek 19:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Damn! Darth Oompa Loompa 20:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh wait, administrator. Sorry. Darth Oompa Loompa 20:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Appearance

  • Ahsoka's facial markings dont match that of a Togruta, and her skin is very orange. Is the picture on her profile a rough draft or did the artists intend on having her look different? Greekpimp 23:44, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

She has a lekku. Darth Oompa Loompa 18:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

  • No, i understand that she has smaller lekku due to age, but a normal Togruta has white spots around their eyes and a more red complexion. Ahsoka doesnt have the red skin or the white patches.... Greekpimp 00:38, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
  • That's probably an example of Togruta genetic diversity. —Unsigned comment by 70.185.166.178 (talk • contribs)
  • If the people who made Clone Wars say she's a Togruta, she's a Togruta. —Unsigned comment by 86.136.1.93 (talk • contribs)

The reason for her facial markings is because she is not in the same clan as the other Tugruta that we have seen, each clan has its own pattern. check out the Tugruta page. Ivel 19:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

  • If anything, her montrails are total BS in relation to how younger Togruta are depicted (see Ashla).--Goodwood 20px (Alliance Intelligence) 11:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Well actually there is a diffrence Ashla is only 3 or 4. Why'll Ahsoka is 8 to 12 years old see there is a time diffrence. Ivel 01:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I thought her montrals and lekku would be alittle longer/higher since she's around 11-14. her lekku are way short, and Shaak Ti's go down to her waist. I would have thought that Ahsoka's lekku would at least her cheast. JediNTT307 19:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Has it been considered that the shorter lekku are a change made in interest of technical limitations? She's a pretty major character with a lot of action sequences, and longer lekku would be much more difficult, time consuming, and harder on the computers to animate. Vongchild 23:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Togruta don't have lekku. Lekku are the names for the twi'lek headtails, they have a different name because they serve a practical function of housing part of the brain. Togruta head tails are not called lekku. 82.19.167.91 07:17, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
    • They are in http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/shaakti/index.html Shaak Ti's Databank entry. -- Ozzel 07:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
      • I do believe that is an error on the side of the databank, Ozzel. They are NOT called lekku, those are the Twi'lek headtails or braintails. I believe that we should call these headtails on Togruta sense tendrils, or some form of extra-sensory tendril. 203.123.89.166 10:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

ok, for one she is not 14..official starwars sites state they wanted the show aimed for 12 yr olds so they added a 11 yr old. 2nd, shaak ti does have much longer tails but she is a few decades older. she is an adult...30ish at least. ahsoka is 11, yeah hers are gonna be smaller. evventually they will grow out —Unsigned comment by 98.214.46.77 (talk • contribs)

More Character/plot Info

Just checked a new video on hyperspace, which goes in to more detail about why Anakin has a Padawan, turns out the Council are trying to teach Anakin about his trouble with attachment, and in letting her go upon completion of her training he will attain the Rank of Master Adamqd 15:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

If this is true, then I'm even more concerned for her safety.--Vatek 22:14, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Source for Information?

Do we have a source stating that she and Anakin would encounter Ventress? Darth Anakin 15:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

  • I've heard that Obi-Wan enocunters Ventress instead. (which is also in the trailer) Drewton 00:44, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Age?

  • I didn't think the character would be 11 years old? Seems to be alittle young. Do the Togruta Species age differently from humans?
    • Actually, it is likely she is 11. Somewhere I heard the directors wanted her to be young. The Jedi had to be chosen by 13, or they would be assigned to the AgriCorps, so she couldn't be 14.Corellian Premier 13:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
      • but it says that she was picked unusually young as a padawan. 11 isn't unusually young, it's getting on the older end of the spectrum. 7 would be young, not 11. —Unsigned comment by 65.35.9.30 (talk • contribs)
        • Yeah Corellian, you're right. maybe she was picked like how Obi-Wan was picked.--Ob1 13:27, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
          • The show states, in the episode with Plo Koon, that she is 14. Gethralkin 23:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
            • In a book I was reading called Star Wars The Clone Wars by Karen Traviss Anakin calls her a youngling and thatshe was not old enough to be a padawan. Then she says she is not a youngling and that she is fourteen.--Padawan Mika Tana 01:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
              • I have no idea what age she is, some younglings look like they're four, others 10! I'm so confused!- Person —Unsigned comment by 69.37.127.230 (talk • contribs)
  • Okay everybody, I've looked up on Star Wars.com The offical website, that she is 14. If you want proof, look up on google how old is Ashoka Tano. 79.16.12.142 16:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Clothes & Age

[Redacted by administration] JediNTT307 19:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

  • [Redacted by administration] Mauser 19:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
    • I realise Ahsoka is young, but perhaps Togruta age differently from that of humans and other species. She does seem older and more intelligent for her age that the average human 11/14 year old. Is there any info on Togruta lifespans and their ageing process? —Unsigned comment by 90.195.18.34 (talk • contribs)
      • i wonder if she might have romantic feelings for anakin later on the series if she lives in the movie or series that is because of anakin lack of guidance on this might effect her judgement later on i just like to bring this upJedi knight 21:19, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

[Redacted by administration]Greekpimp 23:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

  • [Redacted by administration] 129.107.81.12 04:13, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
    • [Redacted by administration] Wallflowerlover284Angel of Death 17:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Please remember that a talk page is not a forum. It is a place to discuss how to improve the article Dr.Kermit 19:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Togruta Jedi wear that kind of thing as it's traditional amongst their species (along with jewellery and face paint etc.). Again, I refer to Star Wars: The Clone Wars, The Visual Dictionary. —Unsigned comment by AHS0KA (talk • contribs)

  • Maybe it's just that it's easier to animate than having her in billowing cloaks. —Unsigned comment by 71.214.71.174 (talk • contribs)
    • If you look closely, you can see the top of a tunic of similar color to her skin, like, a shade or two off. I didn't spot this until I checked the Visual Guide, (The page in particular is 14). If you look closely, you can (barely) make out the difference, so it's safe to say she's in a near-full body suit, but this is just a theory on my part and my eyes devicing me. Luke Danger 23:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
      • [Redacted by administration] and also, padawans dont really dress with the billowing robes and cloaks. and her flexible cloathes help with her speed. do you think shaak ti could jump nad rolll around like that with her massive clothes? no, so in order to have ahsoka fast, small, and flexible they had to have her wear something practical for battle. i personaly love it! —Unsigned comment by 98.214.46.77 (talk • contribs)
        • [Redacted by administration]--Ob1 21:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

As stated above on this page, Ahsoka was 14 by the time she was apprenticed to Anakin, and the article states that Ashoka was "promoted to Padawan earlier than normal", and I seem to recall this being mentioned in the movie. But Obi-Wan was sent away from the Jedi at the age of 13 because he was too old to become a Padawan. So did the Jedi Order change something in this space of time, or is there a mistake somewhere? Sorry if this isn't very relevant for the talk page, but if this is a mistake on the article's part, it should probably be changed. User:Nighthawk leader/sig 06:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

  • Maybe the 13 agelimit is set only to Humans. It's is possible that other species with other maturing period have other limits. Darth Morrt 07:43, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
    • According to fluff from WotC's Ultimate Alien Anthology (grain of salt, much?) Togruta adolescence lasts longer than human (12 to 17, versuses 12 to 15). So it's possible that Ahsoka's young for her species, probably equivalent to 12-going-on-13. Which still should be similar to the old 13-year-old cut-off Obi-Wan experienced. Dunno. Jedi Master Randy Starkiller 17:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Don't forget that the jedi are short of force-users due to the war, so they probably promoted her just to throw more bodies on the front lines. Either way it'll probably be explained in the series.Tocneppil 00:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
  • she is 11, the official starwars sites state it and i think they are smarter then a bunch of peorple who think they know what they are talking about but dont —Unsigned comment by 98.214.46.77 (talk • contribs)
    • The article now states that she is 11. I was under the impression that she was 14, due to what was said in "Star Wars: The Clone Wars - The Visual Dictionary, published by DK. The reference to her being 11 states that George himself said she was 11. But then again he isn't the director of this, Dave Filoni is (so George may be wrong). My brain hurts now. PS: If she really is 11, her DOB still says 36 BBY (making her 14). —Unsigned comment by 58.169.107.239 (talk • contribs)

It says in the article about Jedi that a youngling must be chosen by a Knight to be his/her Padawan by the age of 13, or he/she will be assigned to one of the Jedi Service Corps. She is a Padawan to Anakin Skywalker. So it's obvious that she's 13 or under, not 14 as some people here suggested. DinoTyrannus

Look at the movie "Star Wars: The Clone Wars." Anakin said to her when he met her "Aren't you a little young to be a Padawan?" 14 is, under normal cicumstances, considered to old to become a Padawan. While Farlstendoiro has a point about youngling restrictions being relaxed due to the state of the war, that quote just screams in your face that she isn't 14. DinoTyrannus

  • And the Databank explicitly and plainly states that she is. -- I need a name (Complain here) 22:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Have you considered that the Databank may be wrong? It was written by humans, and all humans make mistakes once in a while. I'm just using simple logic to determine my opinion of things. DinoTyrannus 04:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

In the "Behind The Scenes" section of the article, it states that George said she was 11 - but as we know she's 14. the DataBase says she's 14, the visual dictionary says that she's 14, this article even has her as being 14. If the DB changes to say that she's not 14, then we'll change the article; if not, then we'll leave it as is, as all reliable sources other than George say that she's 14. And let us not forget, George isn't directing (or even writing! He is producing however, and therefore has quite a major input, but not as big as Dave Filoni) this project.

  • the databank is idiotic and george and the other people on the starwars project know beteer then fans who have no evidence —Unsigned comment by 98.214.46.77 (talk • contribs)
    • Was she really born in 36 BBY? If she's "too young to be a padawan", then wouldn't she be born later? According to that she's at least 16, too old to be a padawan. According to that, she should be in one of the Service Corps. 209.244.43.211 19:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
      • She's 14. -- I need a name (Complain here) 21:50, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
        • He's right, man. And technically, she was born in 34 BBY. Anakin wasn't a Jedi Knight until 20 BBY (which I tried to explain to you guys several times before). If Ahsoka was fourteen in that time, she had to have been his Padawan some time after the Battle of Praesitlyn. Remember that? So if I were you, I'd correct the birth date. 71.161.228.122 17:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
          • TCW is set in 22 BBY. 22 + 14=36. -- I need a name (Complain here) 17:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
            • Oh, and if you hadn't noticed, Anakin was still a Padawan at 22 BBY. Honestly, he wasn't even ready then until his promotion two years later. (Don't you even read the New Essential Chronology??? Idiot!!!) But if what you're saying is true, then we should demand a talk with those who run the SW website about this confusion! We'll sue!!! 131.109.225.3 20:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
              • I think that's a little harsh. And what do u mean WE?--Ob1 21:04, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
                • Many, many people here on the Wookieepedia are already aware of when Anakin became a Padawan, received his scar etc., etc., and the problems The Clone Wars thus causes in clashing with established canon. However, the official dating of the new film is 22 BBY and no amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth will change that. You'll just have to patiently (and perhaps, even politely?) wait for an official re-examination of the timeline, like the rest of us are doing. -Kev-La Ttolya 20:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

The official timeline on SW.com is one thing, but Lucas has stated before that the movie time lines trump all. His story is one thing, all the outside stories of the books/games/etc are another. —Unsigned comment by 170.122.250.47 (talk • contribs)

That might be a viable explanation if Clone Wars didn't already play puppetmaster with the concept of Star Wars canon. Sources indicate that she's either 14 or 11, neither of which lend the idea that she's "too young to be a padawan" or even given the position earlier than usual (Heck, Episode I canonically establishes that Anakin was granted the position at age 9...without comment on him being too young to be a padawan). Historically, the rule regarding padawan age has been established as "you have to become one by the age of 13" for the time period (established at least by the publication of The Rising Force, though Lucas' perspective on the rule's canon status is uncertain as far as I know). And then there comes the issue of Revenge of the Sith, which establishes that Anakin never attained the rank of master, meaning that either Ahsoka died or left the Order...while Anakin's characterization (not to mention the dialogue of Revenge of the Sith) indicates neither of these things, much less that he even had a padawan at any point. (granted though, this is likely due to the fact that during the production of RotS, Ahsoka probably wasn't even an idea in her creator's mind). Let's face it, no matter which source we use here, there will be things that draw the conclusion into question. Far better that the conflicting official sources get acknowledged than ignored. 141.166.235.26 04:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

  • The fact that Anakin never attained a master's rank doesn't necessarily mean that she died or left the order. Regardless if Anakin successfully trained her to become a knight or not, a flaw in his personality prevented him from advancing as it normally would happen. Let's just watch the show and quit speculating in this talk page on what happens to Ahsoka, because until it airs, it isn't going to be included in the article. In any case, she is 14 according to the TV show, as it explains how Master Plo found her as an infant "14 years ago." Gethralkin 22:56, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

97.117.255.42 07:22, 19 July 2009 (UTC)anyone ever think that she was 11 in the movie, however the TV show spans the years in between episode 2 and 3, therefore by that time she would have been 14?

  • Would that be the movie which takes place between Episodes 2 and 3 and which the TV series picks up from? -- I need a name (Complain here) 22:58, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

New info from Visual Guide

Publisher's website: http://www.dorlingkindersley-uk.co.uk/static/spreads/all/7/6/9781405332767L_048.jpg and I mirrored it here at my website: http://www.stanoje.de/temp/ahsoka_visual_guide.jpg Has info on her acting as Blue Leader, being found 14 years ago by Plo Koon, a confrontation with Grievous, and other stuff. —Unsigned comment by Stanoje (talk • contribs)

  • I dont care if she is 14 or 11 what i want to know is what jabba thought when he saw her in the movie. also i did see the line on her and it hink its part of her body. —Unsigned comment by Jedimasterman (talk • contribs)

Name?

Ahsoka is probably a play on Ashoka the Great, a historical Indian general, and the Ashoka Chakra, but we should confirm which one before mentioning it in Bts.Tocneppil 21:02, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Ahsoka is Not Shaak-Ti

Ahsoka at the end of this article is accredited as being the Togruta Shaak-Ti from Star Wars: Clone Wars the animation. As the movie Star Wars: The Clone Wars is the first appearance of Ahsoka she has yet to A: be killed. Or B: fight General Grievous. I can not change this on the page because it has been locked. -- Sir Hat

  • It says nothing about her being Shaak Ti. It says she has a fight with Grievous, which is from The Clone Wars Visual Dictionary, which covers the movie and the upcoming TV series. -- I need a name (Complain here) 10:21, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Biography

I haven't actually seen the movie yet, but her biography reads way too much like a report on a single mission. Do we really need specific details about the battle in her biography? --Joseph Leito 01:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

  • I added some section titles to break it up. At this point, we don't know a whole lot more than that one mission, but we'll have a lot more to work with when the show and comics start. -- Ozzel 01:37, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
    • I agree with Joseph....but he posted that in August. Its December now and her biography is way to big. Things need to be either reworded, taken out, or summarized. I personally dont think I should be in charge of that but it still needs to be done. Any volunteers?? Greekpimp - Talk 03:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Canon Status

I know that Ahsoka has been declaired canon but doesn't this conflict with other sources that claim that Anakin had no apprentice at the time of Episode three or immediately before. Will we have to edit other articles or has a "dominate canon" not been yet established?Ryan Fett (For Mandalore!)20px 23:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

  • The Clone Wars Movie and TV show is screwing up alot of canon sources we have. (mostly just the CW comics and novels) It's going to run over a few things and make TCW canon instead of other stuff. So it i don't see why it wouldn't dominate some little things that happened in the move. JediNTT307 22:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
    • Yea but, the EpIII is like... mega-canon. Sadly, George made The Clone Wars, which contradicts Ep III, hold the same canonity (that a word?). So how? Unless, TCW is held in an alt reality, or everyone gets mindwiped. Talk about duex ex machima. —Unsigned comment by 220.255.7.156 (talk • contribs)
      • You need to sign your posts on talk pages. The TV series does not have the same canonical value as the films. The films are G-canon and the games, EU stories, etc., are C-canon. The TV series is T-canon, which takes precedence over C-canon, but not G-canon. However, in the case of Ahsoka being Anakin's padawan, there was no mention in the films that Anakin never had an apprentice. This left the door open to give him one. He didn't have to be a Master to take on an apprentice, and it was, in fact, one of the final deciding factors of whether or not a Knight was 'Master material'. Obviously, Anakin failed the test. Gethralkin 13:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
        • Revenge of the Sith Novelisation Chapter 8; page 158: 'Anakin nodded after 3PO and R2. "I was just thinking that even after all I've done, See-Threepio is still the only person I know who calls me Master."' -uh, cv (same guy as the unsigned post up top)
  • Don't worry, <cynical>she will probably be CGI-ed into a future release of Revenge of the Sith by GL</cynical> And by the way, canonity is not a word, canonicity is, though User:Fransbal 12:40 26 March 2009
  • how do we know that Anakin failed?? To get Master status, you need to train a padawan to be a knight and pass the trials. then you must forgo another set of trials. Ever think that he was supposed to enter take the trials in a short time? and possibly the way things where headed delayed his trials? or maye Ashoka dies and never takes the trials. Or maybe she turns to the dark side. Or something unexplained. or even during her trials she let her thirst for knowledge get the better of her and Yoda failed her. Theres many factors to consider. so just dont say that Anakin failed.—Unsigned comment by 72.178.89.65 (talk • contribs)
    • In order to become a Jedi Knight, the padawan must take the "Trials". And if he or she succeeds the padawan will be Knighted. Right now it is unclear why Anakin wasn't promoted to Jedi Master. Also we don't know Ahsoka's fate. JangFett Talk 13:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Is Asoka the youngling from ep 2 the same as Ahsoka

100px|thumb|right Its kinda odd that ther's a Togruta youngling named Ashla and then in the Clone wars movie right after ep 2 there's a new padawan Ahsoka and they're both Togrutas. So I was thinking are they the same people or are they different. I nkow they have different names but the connection is so evident. This is Ashla (Jedi)) Platinumplatypus 22:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)]].

  • They're different people: Ashoka looks completely different and is quite a bit older. —Silly Dan (talk) 22:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  • I agree with Silly Dan here. They're completely different. —Unsigned comment by AHS0KA (talk • contribs)
  • This youngling looks like a boy anyway —Unsigned comment by 98.194.241.62 (talk • contribs)
  • Actually, if you look at the gallery on the Clone Wars DVD, there's an illustration of Ahsoka when she was called Ashla, and the youngling looks about as old as Ahsoka was in Episode II. So Ashla is the same person as Ahsoka! —Unsigned comment by 99.174.169.207 (talk • contribs)
  • Ashoka might be old, but there are about five to seven years between episode 2, and clone wars! I don't know if it is her, but I think it is a good guess!- No one —Unsigned comment by 69.37.127.230 (talk • contribs)
    • There are only some week between episode 2 and TCW! Darth Morrt 20:32, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
      • It's actually unclear at this point how much time there is between Episode II and TCW. Wild Space gives it as 4 weeks, but this will most likely change before there's an official timeline. -Milo Fett[Comlink] 20:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
        • I don't think they would change the date of a new source. The older sources will be retconned. If they were not sure about the date of the Wild Space date, they could have said easily to the author not to mention any date.Darth Morrt 08:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
          • Either way, it's just speculation at this point, though the reason I say the new source will most likely be retconned is because Wild Space actually conflicts with the timeline of the show itself (pointed out by Nathan Butler at http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=266625). Furthermore, Leland Chee has stated that they don't have anything near a final timeline at this point and probably won't until near the end of the show, so Karen Miller's date that Lucasfilm let through is far from final. -Milo Fett[Comlink] 18:04, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
            • It must be more than a few weeks, Anakin's hair is long in TCW and it very short in episode 2, i'm thinking at least 6 months User:Shiftypoolton1 17:24 5th June 2009

Ahsoka's Eyes

Ahsoka Tano's eyes have pupils, while neither Ashla's nor Shaak Ti's eyes contain pupils or color. Is there some canonical significance to this that needs to be included in this article? Qui-Gon Reborn 00:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

  • Ashla has pupils in the above picture. NaruHina Talk 14px 08:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
    • You may be thinking of the stylized version of Shaak Ti from the original "Clone Wars" cartoon. Also, your signature is broken. -Milo Fett[Comlink] 18:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
      • Hmmm, my signature doesn't seem broken. What happened? And what I mean is that Ahsoka's eyes have blue in them, while neither Shaak Ti nor Ashla nor any other Togruta I've seen had eyes like that. But, oh well. Just a curiosity.Qui-Gon Reborn 02:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
        • You didn't close the "green" tag in your signature, so it makes all text after it green. But if you mean irises instead of pupils, I think you're right. -Milo Fett[Comlink] 15:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Lightsaber Style

To my understanding Ahsoka uses Shien (it's farily obvious). Perhaps this should be mentioned in the article? —Unsigned comment by AHS0KA (talk • contribs)

  • Well, to my understanding Reverse Grip Shien was first mentioned in a tiny role-playing supplement with an incredibly awkward description, never specifically mentioning "Reverse Grip." And then Wookieepedians got carried away with it and made a bunch of assumptions, like you are now. Then there's the contradictions about the styles themselves. Sometimes they are described as a fighting philosophy. If that's the case, you can't be sure that she isn't just using a reverse grip version of another style. Sometimes it's described as a hard-style, like a real world Martial Art. And if that's the case, you can't be certain she's an adherent. Until a source flat-out states that Ahsoka uses Shien, it is considered speculation. And speculation has always seemed ugly in a reference source. SinisterSamurai 06:44, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Shien by itself (not as part of the Form V fighting style) is a style where the user wields a blade with a reverse grip. In this case, Ahsoka is a user of Shien. // ~mikah~ 19:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Whats the source for the statement that Anakin is going to try and break her habit of using a reverse grip? Without a source we would have to delete it because it seems like an assumption.Rayn3000 22:35, 20 December 2008 (UTC)User:Rayn3000

note*** ahsoka does not use only reverse grip style she also uses a regular style at certain intervals. —Unsigned comment by 124.182.182.155 (talk • contribs)

I am no expert but it appears to me that Ahsoka often switches between Form 5, Shien, and Form 4, Hawk-bat. It was stated earler that she darts around acrobatically to tire her opponent, which is similar to Yoda's tatics though the two can hardly be compared.The source would be the star wars clone wars show I suppose. Perhaps this should be touched on by a more devout fan, it is not uncommon for a jedi to use more than one form. Take obi-wan who attacks with form 4 and defends with form 3 as seen in revenge of the sith. As for the reverse Grip situation, you have to draw a parralel between Ahsoka and Anakin's future Aprentice, Galen Marek from Force Unleashed. The Chances that both would use reverse grip shien at all is paramount. ~Arkady/just some guy. —Unsigned comment by 168.184.220.187 (talk • contribs)

Page Locked

Currently the article about Ahsoka has been locked to prevent editing. How is anybody supposed to improve the article if nobody is even able to edit it? It makes no sense. DinoTyrannus

  • It's locked only to anonymous and newly registered editors; that's to keep it from being spammed or inundated with poor quality edits or fanon, as users who have registered and been here for a little while are considered more likely to be interested in making constructive edits. We do this for pages that expect to see a lot of views or editing, like main characters in new sources like The Clone Wars; feel free to register if you're interested in editing, but even if you don't most articles can be edited by anyone. - Lord Hydronium 21:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Eye color

Is the phrase "bluish-grey" really necessary under "eye color"? Blue and grey are just different shades of the same color: blue. Is this description used because she is not human? Rain Thalo 01:14, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

It might just be a cultural thing, but I've always known gray to be the halfway color between black and white. I do however find "bluish-gray" a little weird, since her eyes could easily just be described as blue.--Anderson 08:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

So is it worth changing it to just plain blue? Rain Thalo 21:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

  • I have changed it to blue. The reason is because unless there is a clear canonical reference specifying the shade of blue, the primary or secondary color is appropriate. Secondly, the reference superscript on the eye-color links to an article that does not state that her eyes are bluish-gray - it only supplies a screen image. Thirdly, due to the differences in monitor standards with regards to rendering color, the exact hue is not determinable solely by looking at a screen image. Gethralkin 23:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

New Content

Anakin's revivalAhsoka's master was gravely injured in a battle. Ahsoka went with Jedi Master Aayla Secura to a planet to find treatment for her master. While she was with Aayla, Ahsoka learned the Jedi Code of no personal attachments.

Separatist weapon scareAnakin healed of his injuries and Ahsoka encountered the pacifist Lurmen while on a mission to destroy a new Separatist weapon. Anakin and Ahsoka must get Lurmen to join the Republic before he and his people lay down and surrender to the Separatist regime.

Is there a source for all of this?--Anderson 09:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Aren't younglings supposed to remember the Jedi Code thouroughly?--Ob1 21:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

You find this info from the episodes "Jedi Crash" and "Defenders of Peace"--Padawan Mika Tana 01:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

List of Ahsoka's pet names

I thought it would beeb a good idea to list all the little pet names she gives to people, because it apart of her personality and veryones knows the nickname for Anakin Skywalker but what about the other? Like in episode 6 Down Fall of Droid Ahsoka calls Captain Rex "Rexter". —Unsigned comment by Jennamimi (talk • contribs)

  • That would be adding a pointless category. These expressions do not usually remain consistent, and only reflect the mood Ahsoka is in at the time. Basically, it is her practice of Dun Möch in most cases, and not slang used by anyone other than her. It is not as if a person watching the show does not know what she is referring to at the time of her using a made-up slang term. So creating a category list of so-called "pet names" would just clutter the article with unnecessary content. Gethralkin 00:28, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
    • I'd suggest making a mention about it in her Personality and traits section(since it is her personality) and list some nicknames there. QuiGonJinnBe mindful of the Living Force...16px 08:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
      • It is still irrelevant because the article already explains that she makes up names as she pleases. Gethralkin 05:45, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

It is pointless. but if you lokk at all these articles, a lot of the categorys are pointless. and some change it when i fix wrong information so whoevers doing it. KNOCK IT OFF WIL YA! WallyX 20:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible Mention In Coruscant Nights: Patterns of Force

According to a post on the TF.N forums, there is mention in Coruscant Nights III: Patterns of Force of a "Togrutan female" that Jax Pavan helps escape the planet. While I don't think it's explicitly mentioned that it's her (haven't read that far into it yet), can there be any real doubt? I think, at least, it deserves a "possible mention" appearance on the page. TIEPilot051999 16:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Because there's only 1 Togrutan female in existence in Star Wars. -- I need a name (Complain here) 16:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
  • That Torgrutan could not have been Shaak Ti, she is dead by the time Order 66 was issued, she was captured and killed by General Grevious right in front of Anakin and Obi-Wan in a Deleted Scene of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith, also heres something I dont get i see this she is dead and in Star Wars the Force Unleashed Starkiller must hunt down and kill her himself but hell I havent read the books so I dont know what they wrote. Rasic

I doubt she was killed by Ventress or Grievous because she has the skill to beat them and has defeated them before —Unsigned comment by Plostarkiller (talk • contribs)

  • The Togrutan in CN3 could be any female Togrutan, as mentioned above. Additionally, Ahsoka did not have the skill to defeat Ventress or Grievous. When confronting Ventress, she had the assistance of Luminara. When confronted by Grievous, she had to retreat even though she lasted a lot longer than most Jedi going up against the cyborg general. Gethralkin 01:01, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I've read CN3 all the way through and though, unfortunately, that was the first possibility that came to my mind when I read the passages concerning the unidentified Togruta. :-P There exists very little in the way of concrete information concerning her (in fact we never see her in CN3), therefore, even putting down CN3 as a possible mention of Ahsoka strikes me as being way too speculative. --Muuuuuurgh 00:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

  • In fact we know that Michael Reeves finished CN trilogy more than a year ago, and therefore could not include Ahsoka because she wasn't even revealed at that point. And I doubt LFL would include her in the last moment, cause we know how much they like to leave character's fates open. Mauser 13:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

RIght.I really didnt know what that meant so....yeah. :) --Csbailey1220 03:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

  • This is not a talk forum, it is a discussion involving the improvement of the article about Ahsoka. If you don't have anything valuable to contribute to this page, then please refrain from posting. Gethralkin 06:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
  • I think Reeves could have known about Ahsoka before the official release, but I doubt he or anyone else (even Lucas) knew the fate of Ahsoka that time. Reeves could put in a possible appearence: if she won't die, the Torguta could be officially declare as Ahsoka; if she will die, the Torguta is just an unidentified Torguta. With this there could be more tie-in in the EU without the possibility of contradiction. Darth Morrt 20:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
    • Again, Ahsoka is not the only Togruta in the galaxy, and trying to figure out how to identify her as the one in CN3 is still speculation and has no bearing on this article. Gethralkin 21:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

The Clone Wars: Crash Course

Where in the article would the events of "Crash Course" fit? ZEM talk to me! 20:01, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, I added a section about it. ZEM talk to me! 21:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Main Image

I think that this File:Ahsoka TCW.jpg is better than File:AhsokaHS.jpg for the main infobox image in this article. Does anyone agree with me? Or has this already been decided? I propose a change. ZEM talk to me! 17:50, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

  • For me the second image is better. I wouldn't change anything, or else there is someone who don't agree with me. ShaakTi1138 19:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
    • None of the images of characters really focus on their entire body (unless they're droids). They usually just focus on their profile (or face) for the most part. I don't see the need to change the image. --CC7567 [https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/User:CC7567 20px-Rex.png talk 20:28, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
      • CC7567 is correct. For character infoboxes, headshots or head/torso shots are preferred. Droid infobox images can be full body or cropped in. On alien species infoboxes, a full body shot is preferred where possible. - JMAS Hey, it's me! 21:37, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Adding Quotes

Should we add any Qoutes from the comics? Drsdino 01:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Yes, I think yes. ShaakTi1138 08:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Sure. Why not? --Artoo-DroidWhy did you have to be so brave? 20:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
      • Absolutely. ZEM talk to me! 20:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
        • Well do you know of any? Drsdino 20:42, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
          • I can't remember any because I don't own any of the comics. Anybody else? ZEM talk to me! 23:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
            • 'Fraid not. I've never read them. Yet. --Artoo-DroidWhy did you have to be so brave? 06:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
              • That makes three of us.Drsdino 21:29, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
                • You may be able to find some quotes in the previews of the comics here:

http://www.darkhorse.com/Search/The+Clone+Wars If you click on the comic, it'll take you to a page about it, and if you click on the cover, you get to preview up to 4 pages of it. I looked at all of the previews.--Artoo-DroidWhy did you have to be so brave? 09:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

                  • No, not really, there really isn't much to quote of from the comic previews.Drsdino 21:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
                    • I agree...just a shot in the dark. I did read the graphic novel "Shipyards of Doom" last month, but I can't think of any especially good Ahsoka quotes from it...--Artoo-DroidWhy did you have to be so brave? 06:57, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
                      • As per the existing Ahsoka project for WP:TCW, I'll be adding quotes from the graphic novellas, as well as extensive information regarding Ahsoka from the comics. JangFett Talk 07:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

clothing and age

is there any reason that some edits where removed from that section? is it closed or something? and if it is, can we restart it here, i dont feel like the discussion is over. im new to this and still trying to work out whats going on. Death swamp 20:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)death swamp

  • Which section are you referring to? The most recent edits to the page were reverted because they were off-topic. CC7567 (talk) 20:40, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
    • i dont see how they where off topic. under the first "clothing and age" section. it may have changed the subject, but it still was about "clothing and age". i really dont care, just wanna know whats going on. —Unsigned comment by Death swamp (talk • contribs)
      • This page is for edits regarding the article itself, not the article's subject. That's why they were removed, because they were off-topic, and also because the discussion is outdated and is not currently continuing. CC7567 (talk) 20:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
        • well, nothing in that section had to do with the article. Death swamp 21:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)death swamp
          • Hence why the discussion isn't still going on. CC7567 (talk) 21:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Ataru, maybe?

In Duel of the Droids, when Ahsoka is w/ the clones and she confronts Grievous, she takes out her blade and twirls it then puts it parallel to her body, like she is in Ataru opening stance. Is it possible she could be a possible user? ARC Commander Zek 01:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC) PS- That scene is fast so you might not notice it.

  • Currently, she has been using the unorthodox Shien grip for her lightsaber style. With the assistance of Anakin, she will be learning variants of Form V.JangFett Talk 01:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
    • Ahsoka does use Ataru because she used it with Anakin in a training session before the Battle of Bothawui. Check the Form IV: Ataru article if you want to confirm it. She's not in the infobox though; she's in the Practitioners section halfway down the page.--UnlimitedPower 18:05, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
      • She's not a notable practitioner. JangFett (Talk) 18:28, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Age when becoming a padawan

If Ahsoka was 14 when she became a padawan then wouldn't she be to old to just become a padawan. I thought past information sources said that if you weren't chosen to be a padawan at the age of 13 then you were sent to the jedi service corps. —Unsigned comment by 66.38.109.245 (talk • contribs)

  • Do not expect the new Clone Wars series to follow any sort of already established canon. That's all I can say. CC7567 (talk) 00:39, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Birth Year

ok so it says that ahsoka was born in 36BBY yet anakin was born in 41BBY making them 7 years apart and i am sure that it not right that waould make ahsoka 14. but anakin says "I'm not even sure that you are old enough to be a padwan". and the age you can be sent to the corps is 13. so can we please check this its confusing me!!!!!!

  • According to the BTS section of this article, George Lucas says she's supposed to be 11 as of the start of the cartoon series, though several other sources say 14. I would think that Lucas saying she's 11 would override the other sources simply because he's Lucas, thus making her birth year 33 BBY rather than 36 BBY. — Red XIV (talk) 05:52, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
    • Except for the fact that sources published after Lucas's statement continued to reference the 14-year-old position. Also, just because Lucas himself says something doesn't mean that it can't be overridden. CC7567 (talk) 05:54, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
      • C-canon can't override G-canon. — Red XIV (talk) 04:15, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
        • Regardless, if numerous of official sources claim she is 14-years old, then she is 14-years old. JangFett (Talk) 05:08, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
          • Additionally, Lucas doesn't have to announce to all of his fans what information he approves Lucasfilm to publish. GethralkinHyperwave 23:27, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Origin of her name

Her name is spelled exactly the same as Ashoka the Great of the mauryan dynasty in India. This makes me wonder if this couldn't be mentioned in the behind the scenes section as a possible source for her name. Ashoka means without sorrow according to wikipedia. I have no idea what tano might mean or be a reference to, but perhaps someone else does.

At any rate this page is locked to me, but maybe someone with a high enough ranking can edit this on my behalf. thanks.

  • Actually, her name is spelled Ahsoka Tano, not Ashoka. - JMAS 20px Hey, it's me! 20:01, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
Dave Filoni confirmed in an interview on the forcecast that her name was inspired by the Indian emperor. 68.7.193.146 05:16, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
    • So, could you provide link to this ForceCast? ShaakTi1138 14:57, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Concept Ahsoka?

Anyone think that the concept sketch of Ahsoka included in the Season 1 disk set should be added to the article? 66.19.94.55 18:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

  • Sure, why not? If only you could add this picture... ShaakTi1138 22:02, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Personality and traits update

I seriously believe that the people on this site are not focusing enough on Ahsoka's good traits. Yes she can be aggressive and yes she can be overconfident but she's a good person. An example of that was when she blew up that factory on Geonosis when she seriously thought she would die. Plus she tried to save a couple of Twi'lek's she didn't even know by offering to trade herself for them. She was also very upset about her faliure on Ryloth and I'm ninety five percent certain it was because of her dead clones rather than the faliure itself. Also she didn't hesitate to tell the Jedi Council about her mistakes in the Battle of Felucia and she tried to pursuade Anakin not to open that Holocron in Cargo of Doom. The people on this site have put too much information into her bad traits and not enough into her good ones. I admit she's not perfect, personality wise, but she had just as many good traits as she does bad ones.--UnlimitedPower 18:35, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

  • Hey, you can do it yourself! :) Xd1358Talk 18:37, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
    • Keep in mind, though, that phrases such as "good person" or anything that sounds viewer-poi will be considered OR/POV, which is discouraged on Wookieepedia. JangFett (Talk) 18:41, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure that I can update the article because it seems to be locked to me. By the way that "good person" thing isn't just my point of veiw. Ahsoka does have good traits overall, not perfect but good enough to make her a good Jedi.--UnlimitedPower 18:48, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
        • You probably have to wait a few days before you can edit it, as it's semiprotected. You can't say that she's a good person if it's not stated in a source. Xd1358 Talk 18:51, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
          • Maybe not directly but I can imply it can't I?--UnlimitedPower 18:59, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
            • I think so, yes. Xd1358 Talk 18:57, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
              • Keep in mind that you must source whatever you add. And, yes, you cannot directly say she's a good person without a proper source. Doing so would make it seem OR/POVish. JangFett (Talk) 19:00, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
  • Okay, I'm getting annoyed now. I've tried to improve Ahsoka's Personality and Traits an Powers and Abilities sections, and I've sourced my improvements as best I can to prove they're true, and Wookiepedia refuses to show my changes, even though I've proven they're true by sourcing them! What the hell is going on?! Why can't I just edit the article for goodness sake! Another thing; how do I add sources? It says in the Form IV: Ataru article that Ahsoka's a practitioner of Ataru and if you don't believe me look carefully at the Practitioners section (not the one in the infobox but the one about halfway down the page). I want to add her use of Ataru into the article but I'm worried it'll be taken off without a source to back it up. The source it was mentioned in was The Clone Wars: Wild Space but I don't know how to put that source into Ahsoka's article.--UnlimitedPower 22:53, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
    • Actually, that shouldn't be listed as a source, but rather an appearance. Wild Space has been listed since it came out last year. If you're referring to the information saying that Ahsoka studied Ataru, then you may add it under the "Powers and Abilities" section. Be bold. As for your edits not showing up, nothing is causing you not to make an edit. JangFett (Talk) 23:00, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

If nothings stopping me then why aren't my edits showing up? I'm just trying to improve the article.--UnlimitedPower 18:00, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

  • The article is currently under semi-protection, which means that you need to have enough edits on unblocked pages to make chages here. TheAinMAP 18:39, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
    • Actually, if an article is under semi-protection, a new registered user or anon IP cannot edit the article. So no matter what, their work will not be saved. JangFett (Talk) 19:16, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
  • How long do I have to wait before I can update the article? I really want to put more info into it. Will I be able to update it after a certain amount of time or a certain amount of edits, or do I have to rely on everyone else to update the article? I'm just trying to make the article better.--UnlimitedPower 23:06, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
    • I believe you need to have made fifty edits to not get blocked by semi-protection. TheAinMAP 21:25, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Correct. I attempted to make a note under the part for "Lightsaber Lost" that Ahsoka had offered to trade herself to let the Twi'lek mother and child escape, but because I haven't done much, it blocked it. Think it should be mentioned because it also is mentioned in the Personality and Traits. Luke Danger 02:06, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Recent edits proper?

While browsing I Tahno today I saw a string of edits that appeared to be minor wording edits or expansions. They seemed questionable when compared to original text, and as I am not intimately familar with the subject material I wanted to raise the question in the talk page.--Renkar 01:40, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

  • You can correct them yourself if you're certain that it's proper. Be Bold. JangFett (Talk) 03:39, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Jedi Alliance events

So i recently got my hands of Jedi Alliance for DS. The events depicted in the game were most likely scripted before it was decided that the episode The new Padawan was to be made into the movie, because Ziro the hutt is still free.

Would it be proper to set these events between the Battle of Teth and Christophsis? --Tetsu Aero 20:29, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Proof

Ok I have indisputable proof that none of you idiotic bozos can argue with, no matter haw hard you try. In the New Essential guide to Characters Weapons and technology Vehicles and Vessels page 92 middle last scentance on Plo Koon it states and I quote "At the time of the Battle of Naboo, Koon was raising a female Trandoshan from Padawan learner to Jedi Knight." Now anyone can tell Ahsoka is not a Trandoshan and is not being trained by Koon as this clearly states but on the contrary is a Togruta with the wrong skin tone I might add and is being trained by Anakin who does not have an apprentice for he is being trained by Obi Wan. Along with this the Clone are wearing Phase I armor after Anakin became a Knight which is also wrong AND for the dyslexic people out there General Grievous has the wrong number of fingers that's right he only has four fingers in the show while he obviously has six in Ep. III. So congrats on being total idiots and for those of you wanting to argue with this, well screw you you can go watch your little incorrect clone wars and read your little books I'M going to go watch Ep. II some REAL Star Wars--Ultimate silver fan 23:10, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

  • Dialog-error You have been blocked from editing for three months for the above comments. To contest this block, please contact the blocking administrator with the reason you believe the block is unjustified. Graestan(Talk) 23:13, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ahsoka's power of Force visions

Guys, i think we should put down in the powers and abilites section that Ahsoka was good at having Force visions. She seemed quite skilled in having Force visions in the Season Three preview.

  • I agree, but we have to wait for more detailed source. Remember to sign. ShaakTi1138 11:20, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
    • Please wait until it's confirmed. JangFett (Talk) 14:28, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • Guys, no offense, but the Season Three preview doesn't lie! Ahsoka wasn't having visions to tell what would happen in Season Three, she might be dreaming her death or something. —Unsigned comment by 139.168.118.143 (talk • contribs)
    • Yeah… that's pretty much pure speculation. --Imperialles 22:08, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ahsoka a slave?

Guys, why is it listed that Ahsoka was a slave? She never was a slave. This is complete garbage! Ahsoka was never a slave!—Unsigned comment by 121.216.117.81 (talk • contribs)

  • Actually, she was. See the Slaves of the Republic storyline for details, or just check out the "Slavers" section of her article. It's all there, and it's all legit. And remember to sign your talk page post with four tildes (~~~~). Bella'Mia 01:40, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

A better pic

http://us.dk.com/static/cs/us/11/starwars/swcalendar.pdf This DK calendar has a good pic of Ahsoka. Not TCW-style CGI, like every other. I think it should be added to the article, but I don't know where it would fit. Darth Morrt 19:02, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

  • I don't really like the cropped version as the main image; I liked the original one better.--Joi Kai Jokes 02:03, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
    • Do you mean with Anakin in it? We try to avoid having two characters in the main image if at all possible.--Dr. Kermit(Complain.) 02:36, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
      • The infobox image is fine; no problems with it. Though, for me, I personally prefer a CGI image of Ahsoka for the infobox, but I see no problems with the non-CGI one. JangFett (Talk) 02:43, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
      • I do like the CGI pic better just because it has a plain background, which is generally preferable, though we could always take the new image and crop it onto a white background.--Joi Kai Jokes 16:25, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

a dumb pic

[Redacted by administration] Change the picture please? —Unsigned comment by 121.216.117.81 (talk • contribs)

  • We tend to prefer more realistic depictions of characters to cartoons for infoboxes, if possible. Thefourdotelipsis 11:50, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
    • That's the first time I've seen that image, I like how they made them look more realistic, but it still gives you that clone wars vibe:)TK-299 (Click Here) 20px 11:54, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
      • I would prefer one of these two pictures, on the left and right here.--Joi Kai Jokes 16:31, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

thumb|right|110px thumb|left|110px

        • However, The current one is both more realistic and of a better quality. So thats the one that will stay.--Dr. Kermit(Complain.) 19:44, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

In favour of removing the new pic and restoring the old

While I do understand the policy of using realistic pics for infoboxes, I cannot fully agree with the new pic.

First: Ahsoka Tano will always be remembered because of TCW series and I think that using some random realistic pic isn't entirely justified since everyone knows her in her cartoonish (cartoonesque?) depiction. Even the starwars databank uses a cartoonish Ahsoka.

Secondly: You also have to take into consideration the source for the new pic. The CGI Ahsoka is taken from a television series, that means that such a depiction is T-canon, second only to G-canon. The new realistic pic on the other hand is taken from a website, and not even from starwars.com or something like that, it's taken from dk.com. The question arises: is the dk.com website qualified to override T-canon? And I think the answer to that is obvious: absolutely not. Placing their depiction of Ahsoka in the infobox instead of her T-canon depiction is something I absolutely cannot agree with. If Dave Filoni himself would approve of the realistic picture, then it would be debatable which pic to put in the infobox. However as of now we don't even know if he or George Lucas or any other important star wars figures have even seen the realistic pic.

I'm not against puting a pic other than the CGI one in the infobox, but it would have to come from a T-canon or G-canon source. If Ahsoka ever does a cameo in the live action series (that would be awesome BTW), then maybe we can put that picture of her in the infobox, but definetely not this new pic. DarthCliche 01:52, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

  • I agree that there should be a definite canon image for Ahsoka.66.103.119.237 17:43, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
  • I believe we should use a picture from the television series. That way we know it's a canon picture instead of some random picture taken from a random site. This new picture is just not right for the article. Bring back the old one for God's sake!--UnlimitedPower 11:49, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
  • I like one of the two above CGI images. She looks like an old man in the current one. Menkooroo 12:03, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
  • Well, the new picture is not original so, why keep it? User:Vitor guerra
  • The new picture is not G-canon, but C-canon. It is licenced and so canon. Wookiee's Policy (and so most of the editors) prefers realistic pictures instead of cartoonish. That's why this new picture will remain as main pic. Darth Morrt 20:40, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
    • I'm still not convinced.

1. The new picture may be C-canon, but the CGI picture is T-canon and thus overrides C-canon. (This I consider the strongest point in favor of restoring the old image)

2. As mentioned Star Wars databank and wikipedia both use CGI images for Ahsoka. Why is Wookiee being so original?

3. I agree with using a realistic image for a character like Anakin Skywalker and I wouldn't like it if his infobox contained him depicted in Animated Clone Wars fashion, but a character like Ahsoka Tano is most widely known for her appearance in The Clone Wars, so using some obscure image from some calendar hardly seems proper. DarthCliche 14:15, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

  • So just because Wikipedia uses a CGI image we should use as well? I agree with having a CGI, but I'd prefer a shot from an episode, like this. -- 1358 (Talk) 14:18, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
    • The fact that one image is C-canon and the other is T is mostly mooted by the fact that this is a realistic depiction, and the original image is a cartoon. That's basically the crux off the issue. In all our articles, we opt for the more realistic, or more illustrative image, regardless of canon status. Similarly, while we have G-canon images of helmeted characters such as Bly and Boussh, we opt towards unhelmeted images. This is the same principle at work—basically we have a standard, and since we have been provided with a realistic image of what Ahsoka would look like if she were portrayed in live action, we go with that. The added benefit is that the reader immediately learns something as soon as they open the page. "Oh... that's what she looks like." Instead of seeing the same image they would have seen everywhere else, ad nauseum. Thefourdotelipsis 14:22, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
      • Is it an actual policy? Or is it something that should be put to a vote? Menkooroo 14:49, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • First of all if making a "real" image of ahsoka was better than what she has only appeared in (CGI) then Wookieepedia would have done that with a lot of other charachters that only appeared in cartoon also. The image up now is actually a pretty ruddy drawing. It looks like one of those disney charachters that they put on ice the fasce looks way to human anyway so it looks like someone in a costume. Secondly Argueing how bad the image look is not really something TO ARGUE about because we all know what they say about opinions, but the comment "Oh thats what she looks like" is not a bad one considering there arent to many images like this one out there it is a good image to have on the article, its just that the image is a little misleading. I beleive George Lucas created the series to show a little bit more into star wars during the clone wars, and this was shown in CGI, so if we made a real image of everyone in the CGI clone wars then it really wouldnt be a series with CGI charachters and the soecial traits and cartoons aout those charachters, it would be a glob of uneeded images on an article this image should not be taken off the article but a new one should be put in the info box. So everyone can know what Ahsoka Tano REALLY looked like User:Magnaguardcommander June 6, 2010
    • In the design industry we call it "best practices." Cozmo 17:19, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
    • Agree with you 100% Magnaguardcommander. This picture is definetely a good one to have in the article since it shows what would Ahsoka look like in a more realistic fashion, but the infobox should contain an image that depicts Ahsoka in a way Lucas wanted us to see her and in a way everyone expects Ahsoka to look like. DarthCliche 19:46, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
      • The CGI form isn't how Lucas wants us to see her, it's how he wants to present her to us. The picture is more realistic and quite frankly is much more flattering to the character. She looks more natural, even prettier, without the jagged, bony edges, and the bulbous eyes. Dr. Kermit(Complain.) 02:14, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
        • Well, that's an opinion... and I disagree with it. Which is why I think we should put it to a vote. Menkooroo 04:51, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
          • So... let's vote. ShaakTi1138 07:38, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Vote

File:AhsokaNonCGIHeadshot-DK.png|Image 1 File:AhsokaNonCGIHS.jpg|Image 1.1 File:Ahsoka-PP.jpg|Image 2 File:AhsokaHS.jpg|Image 3 Votes

Image 1

  1. ShaakTi1138 07:38, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Pic 2 is good, but Chris Trevas blew this out of the park. Bella'Mia 07:50, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Better image, Trevas is gold. - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 08:21, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Realistic depiction > cartoon. Thefourdotelipsis 08:24, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  5. --Skippy Farlstendoiro 08:29, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  6. The CGI was the critics' common negative point. Give her the more realistic Trevas beaut. NAYAYEN:TALK 08:49, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Trevas==Gold. Grunny (talk) 09:09, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  8. Realistic images should be used whenever possible. Gulomi Jomesh 09:43, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  9. Not that my opinion would matter much... Tm T 09:53, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  10. I've found the new pic! Darth Morrt 10:39, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  11. Xicer920px(Combadge) 17:27, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  12. Anything is better than image 2. I'd prefer an image like this, though. -- 1358 (Talk) 17:31, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  13. 2 has an odd texture to it, like she's even more wooden than usual. 3 has an obvious unnatural yellow tint. Also, per Cav and Grunny. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 17:36, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  14. Per Culator.--Dr. Kermit(Complain.) 00:39, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
  15. --TK-299 (Click Here) 20px 07:28, June 5, 2010 (UTC) Less cartoonish little girls, more realistic looking Jedi padawans :P
  16. No to marionette-face. BillNye 14:28, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
  17. Petiflo 23:58, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
  18. Maxattac 08:44, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
  19. Again, per Culator. Darth KarikaPlease leave a message after the beep. *boom* 13:05, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
  20. It's better. ~ SavageBob 05:05, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
    Even though the "marionette"-look makes her look young, the profile pic is for realism/detail wherever possible. BillNye 09:33, June 8, 2010 (UTC) (Struck duplicate vote NAYAYEN:TALK 21:53, June 9, 2010 (UTC))
  21. Dangerdan97 19:08, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
  22. Trevas' art is made of win. QuiGonJinn 20px(Talk) 19:26, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Image 2

  1. Less wrinkly old man, more snarky young girl. Menkooroo 08:15, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Sorry, guys. I like this much more, too. --Darth Paulus 20px (May the Force serve you well!) 09:18, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Definitely this one --Vandar Tokare42 (Talk to the hand) 09:24, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Realistic images should be preferred but not if they're far less suitable as infobox images. That one's awful looking. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 10:49, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  5. As much as I like Trevas' art, image 1 isn't infobox material. Also, the cropping makes it look like she's naked or wearing some sort of weird rubber suit. -- I need a name (Complain here) 13:55, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  6. This one is the best Der3000er 15:01, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Clone Commander Lee Talk 15:13, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  8. Per Menkooroo Lele Mj 30px (Holoprojetor) 16:53, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
    Oh, apparently my opinion doesn't matter, sorry. DarthCliche 16:15, June 4, 2010 (UTC) (Vote struck, reason: Per policy: fewer than 50 mainspace edits -- JangFett (Talk) 16:56, June 4, 2010 (UTC))
  9. Per Menkooroo, Acky, and INAN. —Master Jonathan 20px (Jedi Council Chambers) 16:58, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  10. I'm a huge fan of Trevas art. But per INAN. - JMAS 20px Hey, it's me! 17:06, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  11. Firstly, we should be trying to show the image that best illustrates the whole of her face, which immediately eliminates No 1. Secondly, we should be choosing the image that best represents the character as we know her in canon, which also eliminates No. 1. Thirdly, we should be choosing the image in which she [Redacted by administration], which also eliminates No. 1. This is a no-brainer. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:30, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  12. Per JMAS. Chack Jadson (Talk) 17:35, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  13. Per everyone, especially Tope and INAN. JangFett (Talk) 17:42, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  14. Per Tope and INAN and Jang, by default. :P Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 21:34, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
  15. I do like Trevas' art, but this one is a little...out of character. Not much more I can say. CC7567 (talk) 01:28, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
  16. Per above^. ░▒▓ Alex | Talk ▓▒░ 20:49, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
    This one has more of Ahsoka's "character" as in her being a CGI character ORIGANALY makes it better besides image three has the reflection of her lightsaber on her face and that doesnt look good and image 1.1 has lost a lot of its quality User:Magnaguardcommander 14:30 June 5, 2010 (UTC) (Vote struck, reason: Per policy: fewer than 50 mainspace edits -- CC7567 (talk) 22:41, June 5, 2010 (UTC))
    Brings Out more of here character--Rb pk 02:58, June 6, 2010 (UTC) (Vote struck, reason: Per policy: fewer than 50 mainspace edits -- JangFett (Talk) 03:01, June 6, 2010 (UTC))
  17. TheAinMAP 08:51, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
  18. I like Image 2 best.--UnlimitedPower 21:24, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
  19. I agree with the "less wrinkly old man" reason, but more importantly, her appearance as depicted on the show is by and large her most prominent (and highest canon) depiction, so I believe that should play a large factor in the decision.--Demos Traxen 03:48, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
  20. I'll go with the CGI one. Most cannon and more memorable.--Evil Tree 13:20, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
  21. Tyber J. Kenobi's Droid 20:53, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
  22. User:Vitor guerra, June 9, 2010

Image 3

Comments

I have made a new cut of Image 1 without background and with her top shown, and tried to upload it, but some problem occured. For voters of Image 2: would you still vote for 2, if image 1 would have white background and a cut not showing her naked? Darth Morrt 16:40, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

What also needs to be decided is what image defaults back to when this vote ends in "no consensus." Frankly, I think it should revert back to option 2, which is what was in the infobox prior to the current image (which is causing the controversy) being placed there. - JMAS 20px Hey, it's me! 17:11, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

  • Though I supported Image 1, if we get a "No Consensus"—which looks to be on the horizon—then I agree that the image probably should go back to the old image, with Image 1 being found another home somewhere in the article. Bella'Mia 05:11, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
    • If it's no consensus, it will most likely be "Default to keep," meaning the infobox image will stay the same. JangFett (Talk) 05:16, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
      • But shouldn't "keep" be the one that was there before the controversial change occurred? And Image 1 already does have a home in the article, in its complete form, for the record. Menkooroo 05:22, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
        • Keep would be the current, Trevas infobox image. And yes, the non-cropped version of the infobox image is in the article, but I don't think anyone noticed it. JangFett (Talk) 05:46, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
          • The fact that the Trevas one is in the article right now is kind of arbitrary, though. What if it had been changed back to Image 2 immediately before the vote? "Keep" should, in my opinion, refer to the one that was the infobox image up until a week ago. Menkooroo 05:51, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
            • The reason why we're having this vote is to see which image we're going to place in the infobox. If we're going to end up replacing the Trevas image with Image 2 if this vote has no consensus, what was the point of voting then? It should be default to keep. JangFett (Talk) 05:57, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
              • Although I support the Trevas image, I think the others are right: Because the Trevas image caused the controversy in the first place, no consensus should probably be interpreted as "go back to the image that was there before the controversy erupted"; in this case, the 2nd image. ~ SavageBob 06:04, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
                • Yeah. This vote was caused by, and was about, the new image. If it's no-consensus, then the new image fails, doesn't it? Menkooroo 06:18, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
                  • That is incorrect, Jang. "No Censensus" will default back to option that was in place before the Trevas image caused the controversy. And since the Trevas image is already still in use in it's full version, it's not as though the Trevas image won't be used. - JMAS 20px Hey, it's me! 12:42, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
                    • This is true, since the Trevas image was introduced recently and gave rise to the need for a vote, it's not the status quo, and therefore there will be a reversion back to the original image since "no consensus" actually means "no change." Not "most recent change kept." Thefourdotelipsis 12:49, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
                      • Yeah Image is 3 is the best IMO. She is known from the Clone Wars TV show, so don't you think her pic should actually be from the show? Sorry but images 1 and 1.1 hardly even look like her as we know her.Pangscar 19:28, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

No votes in 5 days. As this resulted in "no consensus", it defaults to "no change" per Fourdot above. - JMAS 20px Hey, it's me! 15:48, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Image 2

I believe we should use image 2. my reasoning is: images 1 and 1.1 are c-canon images that someone drew up. therefore, they are subject to change, such as the color of her skin. also, it makes her look kinda... well-rounded. in fact, very round and plump, not a thin, agile, athletic little jedi. If i drew up an image of her, and it looked exactly like the CGI except one little detail (such as skin color) and licensed it, you guys would be scrambling for t-canon images. i do not recall who said it in this discussion, but someone said that CGI is not what george wanted us to think of, but rather, the way he wished to present her to us. how do we know this is the way he wants to present her to us, or that this is, indeed, what she looks like. if it comes down to some image from some non-star wars c-canon source, and a good, quality image from a known, official, widespread (it's even in Japan now!), t-canon television series that everyone's heard of, the choice is obvious. -cough CGI cough-66.42.173.161 12:43, June 8, 2010 (UTC)