Wait, what?
What's the reasoning for placing Allies at 44 ABY? Is there any indication in the book that more than six months have passed since Outcast? Menkooroo 15:19, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
- According to the Force.net boards, which is the source for the 44 ABY date on the Allies page, Sue posted on SW.com: "I don't know that we've determined yet when ALLIES takes place, but I suppose it could be roughly a half-year past BACKLASH." (I'm assuming she means half a year past the beginning of Backlash, since Allies picks up right away where Backlash left off.) But anyway, yes, that would be 44 ABY. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 17:57, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, brilliant. Do you have the link? If so, I'll source it. Menkooroo 01:05, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Huh, well the link on the Allies page was out of date, but after some searching, I've found the post on the TFN Jedi Council Forums (fourth post on the page). Basically what it's saying is that the first 4 books cover a 6-month time span, so that by the time Backlash ends, it's been 6 months since the series started (which was 43.5 ABY). Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 01:12, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- …except that the author of the fourth post on that page was corrected in the next post and said "never mind" in the post after that. —Master Jonathan
(Jedi Council Chambers) 01:21, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- That person was corrected and said "never mind" because they interpreted it as meaning that there was a six-month jump between Backlash and Allies, when it actually meant that six months pass over the course of the first four FOTJ books. So Allies is still six months or so after Outcast. However... on further reflection, I'm not so sure that we should be taking a statement saying "I don't know, but I suppose it could be this" as definite canon. Menkooroo 01:35, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Per Mekooroo. And I don't like the statement, either, but it's the closest to anything official that we have. Until someone gives us a clearer date, that's the only thing we have to go by. Perhaps we should ask Sue to see if they have come up with a concrete date yet? Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 01:38, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) No, it's the other way around. "Darth-Ghost" posted "It's not a 6 month skip, it's jsut [sic] the first 3-4 books take place over 6 months." before saying "6 months after BACKLASH", which is evidence only of confusion. "JediAlly" corrected him, saying that the first four take place one after another, "[t]hen we jump ahead six months in the EU and start with Allies." "Darth-Ghost" then replied that he "misread" Sue's quote and he "thought she said Backlash takes place 6 months after Outcast", which is not what she said. Regardless, we shouldn't be sourcing to posts by random fans in the first place. Here's the original post by Sue on TOS, and I agree with you that we shouldn't be treating that as the final word, as it sounds like even she's just speculating and that nothing official has been determined. Asking her sounds like a good idea, and I have done so. We'll just have to wait for a response. —Master Jonathan (Jedi Council Chambers) 01:51, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, I see, although I entirely hope that it does not end up being 6 months after Backlash—Allies as it is written now appears to pick up quite literally the second that Backlash ends. Anyway, thanks for asking Sue for clarification. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 01:57, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- That person was corrected and said "never mind" because they interpreted it as meaning that there was a six-month jump between Backlash and Allies, when it actually meant that six months pass over the course of the first four FOTJ books. So Allies is still six months or so after Outcast. However... on further reflection, I'm not so sure that we should be taking a statement saying "I don't know, but I suppose it could be this" as definite canon. Menkooroo 01:35, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- …except that the author of the fourth post on that page was corrected in the next post and said "never mind" in the post after that. —Master Jonathan
- Huh, well the link on the Allies page was out of date, but after some searching, I've found the post on the TFN Jedi Council Forums (fourth post on the page). Basically what it's saying is that the first 4 books cover a 6-month time span, so that by the time Backlash ends, it's been 6 months since the series started (which was 43.5 ABY). Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 01:12, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, brilliant. Do you have the link? If so, I'll source it. Menkooroo 01:05, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
Callista's death here?
This is when her spirit finally died. She wasn't really killed by Abeloth, like we first thought, and she certainly didn't die with her original body... —Unsigned comment by (- -) (talk • contribs)
Lost Tribe of the Sith defeated
I keep trying to add that they were destroyed and their recusance ended as depicted in Apocalypse can someone tell me why? —Unsigned comment by 124.150.37.8 (talk • contribs)
Yes but it douse not confirm that they were dissolved. —Unsigned comment by 124.150.37.8 (talk • contribs)
- "The Jedi and Club Bwua'tu finally defeated the Lost Tribe of Sith and Abeloth." That's exactly what it's saying. Also, please sign your comments with 4 tildes. Cade Calrayn
04:42, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
- A few notes here: first, the Lost Tribe was not dissolved. The authors make a point of noting that the Jedi never learn Kesh's coordinates; and in Apocalypse, it is clearly stated that a large portion of the Tribe remained on Kesh—they didn't all go to Coruscant. Second, athough the Sith on Coruscant were defeated, we have absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the war itself ended. We have no idea whether the Tribe had any other forces elsewhere in the galaxy still, or if they had any working ships left on Kesh (Apocalypse makes no specification either way). We simply don't know whether or not the war kept going, so we can't put anything definitively one way or the other in our articles. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 14:21, May 27, 2012 (UTC)