Forum:TC:Wampa cave (third nomination)

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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Restore page. 1358 (Talk) 16:35, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Wampa cave (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This Trash Compactor (TC) is a second attempt to restore wampa cave as an article after its previous deletion via TC here via a 16-3 vote. The first attempt to restore did not have sufficient votes to overturn the previous deletion vote, though it was strongly leaning to restore (11-1)

The argument to delete made by the proposer is essentially that the cave was a temporary domicile that was only notable because of its OOU recognition. However, there is no evidence that this cave was temporary and we know the cave was inhabited by at least two wampas (One-Arm and a male wampa), bringing question to that claim. Especially as the male dragged Luke and the tauntaun to the female.

Its IU notability—as the location where Luke, after being knocked unconscious, had to focus, use the force to pull the saber and then escape—was ignored.

Imperators has graciously advised that prior to deletion, the only appearances/sources noted were:

However, I noticed the Wizards of the Coast The Empire Strikes Back (TCG) card "Wampa Cave" gives an ID, as generic as it may be. The card may be viewed here.

Given the fact that it is ID'd separately in the card game, its IU notability and its temporary nature being circumstantial at best, I think that it deserves its own article. This is contrary to my previous vote which I believe to have been a "follow the leader" type vote.

Restore

  1. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
  2. NBDani (talk) 03:07, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  3. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 06:30, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  4. LucaRoR Sigil of House Serenno (Talk) 07:00, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  5. OOM 224 09:21, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  6. Imperators II(Talk) 09:50, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  7. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 10:19, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  8. Rsand 30 (talk) 14:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  9. 1358 (Talk) 16:01, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  10. 01miki10 Open comlink 16:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  11. Lewisr (talk) 16:27, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  12. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 17:21, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  13. RogueWhistler (talk) 17:43, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  14. Let's go! NanoLuukeCloning facility 17:47, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  15. Wok142 (talk) 21:13, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
  16. As I stated the last round: A. I think saying it's a temporary domicile is a weak argument and actually not supported by TESB. The male wampa dragged Luke to this cave, where the female wampa already was present. That doesn't speak to temporary dwelling, but a permanent den. B. Luke had to calm himself before using the Force to call his lightsaber to his hand and then used said lightsaber to free himself from captivity and defended himself against attack from a semi-sentient creature. That was a significant event in Luke's life. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 01:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
  17. Tomotron Revanchist Sith (Star Forge) 08:39, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
  18. Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol (Ah, yes. The negotiator.) 08:59, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
  19. YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) linkWP:Chiss (talk) 11:59, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
  20. --Dionne Jinn (talk) 12:14, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
  21. VergenceScatter (talk) 16:55, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
  22. Fan26 (Talk) 19:30, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Keep as deleted

Comments

Procedural note: this TC will require at least 19 participants to overturn the initial result. 1358 (Talk) 16:01, 20 February 2022 (UTC)