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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Delete. Imperators II(Talk) 07:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello. Setting up a batch TC for some pages, so the reasoning will apply to all. These are all from Jedi mural in the first chapter of Escape from Valo

  1. Not real characters, they're only depicted in a painting. Ram Jomaram does stare at the mural and observes it for a moment (thus noting its features).
  2. To my knowledge, we generally don't create articles for unidentified individuals in media pieces that're very brief in mention due to failing notability. We also tend to not create unidentified individual articles for folk who appear in (1) trading card to my recollection, and the principle seems the same. The characters (and mural) are also not mentioned in any quote at any point.
  3. All content is fully covered in Jedi mural, which itself is also brought to status.

Anyway—if these were real characters, some of them may barely meet notability (like the painted Alcedian). Even then though, the sparring Jedi one and two are only a brief glance of a Jedi that is sparring, which doesn't feel notable to met. But they're also not confirmably real characters and are only painted, and also not mentioned in prose or talked about due to it being a more or less one-liner. So yeah the fact that a [depicted individual] was painted onto the mural is fully documented in the main article for it and we should (imo) not go down the route of making character pages for paintings in general unless it's much more than a brief note because it, for me personally, does not feel notable. These also, by virtue of existing, do fully state facts as if a character did exist, when we don't really know, unless we add (as depicted in painting) to each infobox field, which would just be weird.—spookywillowwtalk 04:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Unidentified painted human Jedi (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

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  1. —spookywillowwtalk 04:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Lewisr (talk) 04:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Wok142 (talk) 04:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Yeah, unfortunately there's no indication the mural depicts real individuals and there isn't enough to present them as specific "fictional" characters either. Zed42 (talk) 05:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  5. Rsand 30 (talk) 10:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  6. Followed by a policy update on notability maybe? NanoLuukeCloning Facility 11:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  7. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 16:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  8. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  9. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 00:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  10. Fan26 (Talk) 01:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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Unidentified Alcedian Jedi (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

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  1. —spookywillowwtalk 04:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Lewisr (talk) 04:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Wok142 (talk) 04:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Zed42 (talk) 05:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  5. Rsand 30 (talk) 10:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  6. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 11:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  7. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 16:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  8. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  9. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 00:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  10. Fan26 (Talk) 01:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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Unidentified painted Rodian Jedi (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

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  1. —spookywillowwtalk 04:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Lewisr (talk) 04:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Wok142 (talk) 04:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Zed42 (talk) 05:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  5. Rsand 30 (talk) 10:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  6. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 11:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  7. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 16:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  8. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  9. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 00:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  10. Fan26 (Talk) 01:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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Unidentified sparring Jedi 1 (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

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  1. —spookywillowwtalk 04:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Lewisr (talk) 04:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Wok142 (talk) 04:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Zed42 (talk) 05:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  5. Rsand 30 (talk) 10:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  6. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 11:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  7. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 16:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  8. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  9. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 01:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  10. Fan26 (Talk) 01:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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Unidentified sparring Jedi 2 (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

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  1. —spookywillowwtalk 04:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Lewisr (talk) 04:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Wok142 (talk) 04:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Zed42 (talk) 05:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  5. Rsand 30 (talk) 10:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  6. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 11:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  7. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 16:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  8. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  9. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 00:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  10. Fan26 (Talk) 01:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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Unidentified painted Togruta Jedi (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

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  1. —spookywillowwtalk 04:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Lewisr (talk) 04:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Wok142 (talk) 04:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Zed42 (talk) 05:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  5. Rsand 30 (talk) 10:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  6. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 11:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  7. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 16:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  8. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  9. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 01:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  10. Fan26 (Talk) 01:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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