Forum:TC:The Heart of the Jedi

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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Delete all. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:22, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

The Heart of the Jedi

The following pages are all associated with the cancelled novel The Heart of the Jedi. Although Joseph Bongiorno posted a version of it on his website, he acted as an editor to modify the posted version from the originally commissioned manuscript. Those edits make it impossible for us to determine what was present at the time that the novel was cancelled and what was added afterward. As such, while some of these articles may be cut content, they may instead fall into fanon added by Mr. Bongiorno.

These articles all appear in Category:Cut content from The Heart of the Jedi. After checking the what-links-here, these articles are only linked from A) The Heart of the Jedi, B) each other, and/or C) Forum:SH:Regarding the status of the Encounters duology; in the case of two, there is an additional other article (which will be noted).

Albaan (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

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Immi Thrax (she/her) (talk) 11:20, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Wok142 (talk) 13:52, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Given I brought to light this information, I can only agree with Immi. --NanoLuuke^{Cloning facility} 18:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 22:29, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
MasterFred(talk) 22:51, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 10:48, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Jarhead002 (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
Asithol (talk) 07:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 02:46, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
01miki10 ^{Open comlink} 16:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 12:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Lewisr (talk) 18:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Angorathea (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

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Immi Thrax (she/her) (talk) 11:20, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Wok142 (talk) 13:52, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
NanoLuuke^{Cloning facility} 18:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 22:29, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
MasterFred(talk) 22:51, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 10:48, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Jarhead002 (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
Asithol (talk) 07:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 02:46, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
01miki10 ^{Open comlink} 16:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 12:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Lewisr (talk) 18:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Artificial Intelligence Transmogrification (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

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Immi Thrax (she/her) (talk) 11:20, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Wok142 (talk) 13:52, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
NanoLuuke^{Cloning facility} 18:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 22:29, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
MasterFred(talk) 22:51, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 10:48, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Jarhead002 (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
Asithol (talk) 07:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 02:46, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
01miki10 ^{Open comlink} 16:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 12:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Lewisr (talk) 18:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Bark tea/Legends (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

Connected to the canon article Bark tea.

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Immi Thrax (she/her) (talk) 11:20, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Wok142 (talk) 13:52, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
NanoLuuke^{Cloning facility} 18:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 22:29, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
MasterFred(talk) 22:51, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 10:48, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Jarhead002 (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
Asithol (talk) 07:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 02:46, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
01miki10 ^{Open comlink} 16:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 12:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Lewisr (talk) 18:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Caladane (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

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Immi Thrax (she/her) (talk) 11:20, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Wok142 (talk) 13:52, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
NanoLuuke^{Cloning facility} 18:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 22:29, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
MasterFred(talk) 22:51, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 10:48, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Jarhead002 (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
Asithol (talk) 07:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 02:46, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
01miki10 ^{Open comlink} 16:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 12:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Lewisr (talk) 18:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Dioskouros (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

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Immi Thrax (she/her) (talk) 11:20, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Wok142 (talk) 13:52, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
NanoLuuke^{Cloning facility} 18:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 22:29, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
MasterFred(talk) 22:51, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 10:48, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Jarhead002 (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
DarthRuiz30 (talk) 23:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
Asithol (talk) 07:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 02:46, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
01miki10 ^{Open comlink} 16:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 12:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Lewisr (talk) 18:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Entrepreneur (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

Linked to Star Wars: Edge of the Empire due to being listed on that article as a job title. If trashed, it shouldn't be in the permanent redlink club since an article could be created for that canonical use.

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Immi Thrax (she/her) (talk) 11:20, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Wok142 (talk) 13:52, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
NanoLuuke^{Cloning facility} 18:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Jarhead002 (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
To JediMasterMacaroni's objection: always in motion is the future, and Jedi we are not. If we could not delete any articles that might one day need to be recreated, we could never delete any article. All we can go by is what we know today. In this particular case, works referring to the concept of entrepreneurship don't merit a Wookieepedia article. A future cargo ship may be called the Entrepreneur, but also a future ship may be called the Dioskouros, and you voted to delete that. Asithol (talk) 07:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- One day? Sure. But we already know right now that there's a source that mentions entrepeneur, so I certainly don't feel comfortable deleting something with a valid source. Now, if someone were to look into Edge of the Empire and find out if that source makes this article notable or not, then I would be able to make a vote will all of the necessaru information. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 16:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 02:46, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Deleting this article about a ship doesn't mean that we couldn't use the title for a completely different subject with the same name. 01miki10 ^{Open comlink} 16:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Per miki Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 12:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Lewisr (talk) 18:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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We should not be trash-compacting articles that need to be recreated in the future, since TCs are permanently binding. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 22:29, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

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Perhaps a separate discussion is warranted here. This could be a dictionary term. Does Edge of the Empire offer any information to make this term unique and deserving of an article? MasterFred(talk) 22:51, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Although it's listed on the article for Star Wars: Edge of the Empire, it looks like Star Wars: Edge of the Empire Core Rulebook doesn't have information on it, but instead it may have been introduced in Far Horizons as a class specialization. None of this is currently reflected on the Entrepeneur article, which only lists The Heart of the Jedi. Immi Thrax (she/her) (talk) 16:35, 18 November 2021 (UTC)