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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was No consensus. Default to Keep. Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:36, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sith Warrior (Galen Marek) (talk - history - links - logs)

This is an article on a Force vision character and his fight with Galen Marek. He's not an actual being like the article leads the reader to believe. The BtS is also quite suspect. If I've left out any steps, please let me know.—Tommy 9281 05:43, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Delete

  1. —Tommy 9281 05:43, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 05:50, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Havac 07:44, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
  4. JangFett (Talk) 22:30, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Though it should be ensured that every relevant information is added to the Galen Marek article. Pranay Sobusk ~ Talk 22:38, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
  6. We don't have a Darth Vader (Luke's Jedi Trial) do we? Same goes here. Also, per Pranay. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 22:52, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
    • Well we kinda do, with the Dark Spirit article, but that should be on the chopping block also, IMO.—Tommy 9281 23:02, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
  7. — Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 05:15, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
  8. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 15:18, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
  9. Per JMAS. —Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 16:31, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
  10. Marek's BTS is quite sufficient for this info. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:53, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
  11. Per Chack Jadson. Darth KarikaPlease leave a message after the beep. *boom* 20:57, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
  12. If we're keeping this, then I want to remake the Nostril of Palpatine article. And the Empress Bikini Leia from I think it was Planet of Twilight. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 18:21, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
  13. Per Chack. Xd 19:03, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Keep

  1. The article should definitely be re-written (possibly renamed) to highlight that this is not an actual person. The canonicity (is that a word?) needs to be clarified. In other words... it needs to be more encyclopedic, but it does belong. - Esjs(Talk) 22:17, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Strong Keep. It is canon, but I agree it needs a bit of a rewrite. We also have an article for the Dark Spirit. Dr. Kermit(Complain.) 22:29, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Per Dr. Kermit. --Darth Shohet 22:31, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
  4. per above ASDF1239Chiss Ascendancy Discussion 05:27, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
  5. I'd have to say keep on this one, pending a rewrite. I've come across a few of these kinds of articles before. They should be sought out and placed in a category. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 04:42, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Keep and rewrite, possibly from scratch. Dangerdan97 00:50, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
  7. It needs a bit of a work-up, yeah. But there's no reason to just toss it.--Bella'Mia 07:55, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
  8. Canon. -- Riffsyphon1024 09:48, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

  • I'm still confused as to how this being "canonical" makes it worthy of a keep. We don't have articles on Mara Jade in Luke's Vision, or Dark Side Quinlan Vos (visual metaphor), so why would we keep this? Havac 07:36, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
    • we do have articles on Dark Mara, Paffen, and Spectral Guardian...ASDF1239Chiss Ascendancy-DISCUSSION- 08:01, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
    • And Dooku's mystery clone. Just wanted to mention him, too.--Bella'Mia 08:13, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
      • The Doppelganger of Dooku may or may not be a clone -- a distinct individual. The Spectral Guardians are spirits and a distinct phenomenon. Paffen is quite literally an article on a nonsubject -- he's explicitly an illusion; there's no way there should be an article on him -- and Dark Mara is the same video-game-mechanic vision-fighting that's been said should be deleted. So, great, you've found two articles that also shouldn't exist. That's not a justification for this article on a non-entity. Havac 23:24, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
        • it doesn't matter if it exists as a concrete entity in-universe as long as its notable imo. it's a vision/manifestation of the force, if anything in that vein shouldn't have an article on it then Dream and Force Vision should be deleted as well, since they only exist in the user's mind and are therefore "illusions". ASDF1239Chiss Ascendancy-DISCUSSION- 23:53, March 8, 2010 (UTC)