Forum:TC:Rabelaisian

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The result of the debate was delete.—Silly Dan (talk) 12:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Rabelaisian (talk - history - links - logs)

As I say in the article, the word "Rabelaisian" is probably a reference to the French writer François Rabelais. I suspect that if the term "Rabelaisian banquet" or something like that is the only mention of these guys, it's just narration describing a "wild party." Unless the passage mentioning them in Planet of Twilight mentions them specifically as sentient species, we should probably delete it. —Silly Dan (talk) 17:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Keep

  1. It's maybe canon. Thefourdotelipsis 04:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  2. Per 4dot. Darthchristian (Hey!) 21:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  3. Battle stations, hyperinclusionists! Evir Daal 08:43, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
  4. Per Portug precedent. Havac 17:36, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
  5. Jedimca0 (Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 10:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Merge

Redirect

Delete

  1. —Silly Dan (talk) 17:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
  2. Imperialles 18:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
  3. How did the guy who created this article know about this? I'm searching the Fanon wiki.--Windu223 19:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
  4. JMAS 19:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
  5. Oh for.... As I recall, the text was about Beldorion devouring something "with Rabelaisian enthusiasm" or something along those lines ... and the only reason I remember that is because I had to look it up. Absolutely not a sentient species. Someone made the same mistake with Ephemera.--Valin Kenobi 21:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  6. Per Valin. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:47, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
  7. This is clearly being used in the same sense one might use "Machiavellian." Now if a SW author were to actually use "Machiavellian," that would be an obvious (and sad) mistake. Same here, I think. (Thus it is not exactly the same issue as the Man o' War.) Gonk (Gonk!) 18:33, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
  8. Unit 8311 10:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
  9. Din's Fire 997 02:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
  10. Per Gonk. Just a regular adjective. - Lord Hydronium 05:13, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
  11. We don't know exactly what "Rabelaisian" means in the GFFA. It could be referring to an alien species as the current article suggests, but it might also refer to a character, planet, region, ship, religion... it could be anything. At least with the Portuguese man-o'-war and the elephant we can be pretty certain that they would be creatures in the GFFA. --Azizlight 06:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
  12. Per Azizlight. -LtNOWIS 06:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
  13. Per Azizlight. Atarumaster88 20:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
  14. Thank you, Aziz, for saving me. jSarek 20:18, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
  15. And no "Panglossian" either Enochf 11:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
  16. Much less specific, more interpretable and more obviously a mistake of ignorance than things we've kept like Portuguese man-o'-war or Coruscant Rimward. Get rid of it. Wildyoda 12:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Comments

It didn't appear in the Fanon wiki.--Windu223 19:32, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Please, someone, give me some solid reasons that Portuguese man-o'-war doesn't set a precedent that should make us keep this. I really want to vote bahleet, but the issues in that VFD seem to be quite similar to the ones raised here. jSarek 07:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Don't get me started again :P ... and anyway, as I recall you came down on "my" side in that debate.--Valin Kenobi 17:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
    • See also: Elephant :-) --Azizlight 10:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Valin: Of course I did. Like I said, I really, really don't want to vote "keep" . . . but it's not my job to vote with my feelings, but with policy and precedent, and so I want somebody to give me legit reasons that this isn't the same thing so I can vote my conscience. jSarek 01:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone have a copy of the book that they can scan for the exact quote? —Silly Dan (talk) 00:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

  • "Leia picked up the fruit knife and fork from the small table nearby, cut a section from the berry, and watched as Beldorion slurped down the rest with Rabelaisian enthusiasm before she ate her own fragment." Green Tentacle (Talk) 09:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
    • I win.--Valin Kenobi 17:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
      • It's not about winning (though I guess you did.) —Silly Dan (talk) 12:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)