Forum:TC:Chiss–Grysk conflict

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Chiss–Grysk conflict (talk - history - links - logs - delete - protect)

ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 20:47, 7 April 2022 (UTC)This page is the same as Plot to destroy the Chiss Ascendancy

Delete

Merge onto Plot to destroy the Chiss Ascendancy page and then move to Chiss–Grysk conflict

#If they are indeed the same thing then I think we should merge the info onto Plot to destroy the Chiss Ascendancy, have this current page deleted and then move the plot page to Chiss–Grysk conflict to preserve the editing history of the original plot page Lewisr (talk) 21:45, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
  1. I agree with Lewisr. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 22:10, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
    Rsand 30 (talk) 23:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 00:17, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
    YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) linkWP:Chiss (talk) 00:25, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Keep

  1. These seem like different things, the plot would lead into this entire conflict, just like the trade sanctions led to the battle of Naboo and the Separatist crisis. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 10:49, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
  2. Per Manoof and my comment below.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol 10:52, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
  3. Manoof is right. Changing my vote. YakovChaimTzvi (he/him/his) linkWP:Chiss (talk) 12:29, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
  4. Lewisr (talk) 12:44, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
  5. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 13:11, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
  6. Huh? Fan26 (Talk) 13:37, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
  7. Rsand 30 (talk) 14:12, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
  8. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 00:28, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
  9. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 13:58, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
  10. VergenceScatter (talk) 19:54, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
  11. Thrawn books seem like they're written in Aurebush to me honestly cannot comprehend —spookywillowwtalk 17:18, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
  12. Per spooky. Wok142 (talk) 08:05, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
  13. 1358 (Talk) 15:42, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Comments

  • This actually should be what encompasses the entire conflict, not just the Ascendancy trilogy's conflicts, Treason, and Alliances should be covered here. The Grysk conquests are pretty confusing. So I may be wrong, but I don't think this one has the right information nor should it be deleted.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol 08:11, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
    • It was under my impression that the Grysk conquests were old wars fought by the Grysks, not any of the new stuff. That should be looked at further --Vitus InfinitusTalk 13:11, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
      • The Grysk conquests are everything in the Ascendancy trilogy. The Chiss-Grysk conflict is every conflict from all the Thrawn books, be it Ascendancy or Alliances/Treason. — Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol 09:37, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Just to expand on my vote comment, I feel the information on the conflict at large should be removed from the plot with a succinct summary of the conflict on the plot's page with a Main link to the conflict. While the conflict may be a tool of the larger plot, it deserves it's own article as much as the clone wars has it's own article despite that it is a tool of Sidious' plot to destroy the Jedi/turn the Republic into the First Galactic Empire! [insert Palpatine cackle] Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 10:57, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
  • The Grysk-Chiss conflict is everything, it encompasses the plot and the post-Jixtus conflicts. The Plot to destroy the Chiss Ascendancy is simply Jixtus' campaigns. Which ends in Senior Captain Thrawn's last stand.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol 12:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
    • ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 20:35, 8 April 2022 (UTC)So basically the conflict is a combination of Plot to destroy the Chiss Ascendancy and Chiss–Grysk skirmish. (So far)
      • So far, plus all the battles in Thrawn: Treason andThrawn: Alliances. Skirmish with Grysk warships too, and several other skirmishes/battles.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol 09:36, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
        • But battles that are only between the Chiss and the Galactic Empire would not be part of this conflict right?
          • The Chiss didn't fight the Empire. Do you mean that battles with aid of the Empire are not part of the conflict? If so, they are indeed part of the conflict.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol 14:15, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
            • Sorry, I meant the conflicts between the Grysks and the Galactic Empire (The events of Thrawn:Treason and Thrawn:Alliance). Why should these be part of the conflict if the conflict is between Chiss and the Grysks?ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 20:13, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
              • I meant the Empire and Chiss against Grysk battles. Empire-Grysks should have its own page. Apologies for the misunderstanding.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol 20:34, 9 April 2022 (UTC)