Forum:TC:CT-8771 through CT-8909

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The result of the debate was Wipe them out, all of them.. —Silly Dan (talk) 20:47, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

CT-8771 through CT-8909

See the big list of troopers at Cato Neimoidia Garrison. They all say pretty much the same thing. The entire list is based on a single line in Order 66: Destroy All Jedi: "Multiple laser hits sent [Plo] Koon's Jedi starfighter plunging through the heart of the bridge city, destroying a clone staging area (see casualty reports labeled CT-8770 through CT-8910)." Upon reading that, some editors apparently felt that every clone in that set was killed in the crash. There are a number of problems with this assumption:

  1. Saying "Casaulty reports CT-8770 through CT-8910" doesn't mean every clone from 8770 to 8910. It just means every report between those numbers. If CT-8834 survived miraculously, it would still be a finite, definable set of casualty reports.
  2. The entire notion of the article is that clone troopers are solely grouped with their numbers. That isn't always the case though: Bogey Squad has a wide range of numbers. So does Delta Squad, and we know they were all decanted together.
  3. We don't know if they were all in the theater at the time. What if CT-8804 got shot a few days earlier or in a prior campaign, and was already dead? It's entirely possible, but our article definitively states that he was killed in this specific incident. In fact, after all of these articles were written, that actually happened. CT-8867, CT-8868, and CT-8869 were included in Routine Valor. Their articles were changed to reflect that no, actually, they didn't die on Cato Neimoidia. I guess we got that one wrong, guys. Our bad! But did we go back and say "Hey wait, maybe creating 130 articles with such little basis was a bad idea?" No, we used that to assume that the unit in Routine Valor was the same one that Plo Koon ran his ship into.
  4. Being a casualty does not necessarily mean being killed. So that's another big assumption we made 130 times in a row.
  5. See Talk:Cato Neimoidia Garrison for other people questioning the existence of this set of articles.

This TC would not cover CT-8770 or CT-8910, as they were mentioned by name. It would also not cover CT-8867, CT-8868, and CT-8869, as they were in Routine Valor. It would only cover every clone trooper from CT-87771 to CT-8866, and every clone trooper from CT-8870 to CT-8909. So I suppose the title of this Trash compactor entry is somewhat misleading. -LtNOWIS 07:58, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Keep

Delete

  1. Per my own nomination. -LtNOWIS 07:58, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  2. Per LtN's own nomination. jSarek 08:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  3. He breaks it down so well. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:06, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  4. Cull Tremayne 08:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  5. --Eyrezer 08:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  6. Per Riffsyphon. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 08:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  7. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 16:43, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  8. Even though a bunch of pipelinks I made as a noob would die. Graestan(Talk) 19:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  9. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 19:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  10. Logical. Green Tentacle (Talk) 23:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  11. A well-organized list of reasons. - Lord Hydronium 00:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  12. Wipe them out. All of them.--Goodwood Redstarbird (Alliance Intelligence) 03:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  13. Way too speculative. —Silly Dan (talk) 04:13, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  14. Per everyone. Unit 8311 12:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
  15. Per LtRiffsHydrowood. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 20:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

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