This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments or questions on this topic should be made in a new Senate Hall page rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:58, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
I felt the need to bring this up here rather than the article's talk page because this effects a larger portion of the wiki. Currently we have Skywalker epoch listed as an in-universe era spanning the birth of Anakin Skywalker and his descendants. However, after searching through the only source to use the name, the Tales of the Jedi Companion, I have found little to no evidence to substantiate this. "Skywalker Epoch" only appears to be used twice in the book. The first instance is at the beginning of chapter 11, "Sites", where it is explicitly used in an out-of-universe context. The author talks about planets that can be used in an RPG campaign, and the TotJ comics, among other things, are referred to by name. The straight text is just: "Before using a planet from the Skywalker Epoch, check its history to determine whether or not it was a member of the galactic community prior to the Great Sith War." The second mention, at the beginning of chapter 12: "Running A Tales of the Jedi Campaign," is even more vague: "The long periods of time required for space travel and trans-galactic communication in this era (as compared with the Skywalker Epoch) serves to definitively separate the Core from the Frontier." This whole chapter appears to be written out-of-universe, except for the portions where Ood Bnar speaks, as it simply gives gamemasters instructions on how to run their own TotJ era campaigns. Neither of these mentions seem to be used in-universe from what I can tell.
Furthermore, the above excerpts don't shed any light on exactly what time period the Skywalker epoch encompasses. The closest thing I could find was the sentence following the first mention, which lists planets that exist in both the TotJ era and the "Skywalker Epoch." But even then, there still isn't proof that the term was ever used in-universe, or that "some historians" in the galaxy ever used it as our article claims, or that it started with Anakin's birth and went on from there. As it stands right now, our article on the Skywalker epoch appears to be completely fanon, and I'm questioning whether the article should be kept at all since it's unclear that the term was ever used in-universe. Which is why I brought the matter here first. Can anybody else who has the book find a mention of the term being used in-universe? Am I missing something obvious? Is it used in another source? If somebody can substantiate what we currently have in our article, then I'll shut my mouth and forget about this whole thing. But for now, this is my take on it. Xicer9
(Combadge) 03:29, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
Delete it - I agree, it looks like a bunch of fanon. Telos 11:11, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Unless anyone else finds a source that reveals more, either delete the article as OR or reduce it to "The Skywalker epoch was a period of time." and even that may not be valid because we don't know if the term is used IU. So yeah, probably delete the article. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:03, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- "Skywalker Epoch" is a terrible name, anyway. I am all for deleting it. --Imperialles 23:14, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Unless someone can prove that the term is IU, kill it. —Master Jonathan
(Jedi Council Chambers) 23:25, June 9, 2010 (UTC) - Per MJ. -- 1358 (Talk) 18:37, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Would everything from this epoch devolve to the Sidereal Period, then? Or would ABY itself become the IU gauge, with a small 4-year overlap with the Imperial Period? Just asking. Dangerdan97 18:54, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
- I think this "Epoch" has more to do with the Skywalker Family story rather than with the Star Wars Universe itself. Although the Skywalkers are the main protagonists in the films, I still do not think they deserve to have an era named after them. Because as it currently stands, the Skywalker Epoch will run from the birth of Anakin straight to Cade Skywalker and possibly his descendants. No Skywalker even became Head of State (Darth Caedus is basically a Solo). I love Luke but really, naming an Epoch after them is silly. Questorminator 15:42, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I suggest nominating the article for deletion and restating your reasoning on the nom page. ~ SavageBob 17:14, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Alright, so before taking this to the TC, I'd like to know how this would affect our current time period articles. I'm no expert on them so some input would appreciated. I know it's currently linked to several articles (outside of the template) and it also has a its own category (Years in the Skywalker epoch). Is there anything that would be drastically affected if this were to be deleted? Xicer9(Combadge) 20:34, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, I have begun a TC discussion on it. Xicer9
(Combadge) 22:09, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Why not just rename it the "Skywalker Saga?" That's what it's all about right? I mean, I never even heard of this "Skywalker Epoch" until now, and using the word "epoch" doesn't seem correct. And Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One of the prophecy of the Force, and ended up saving the Galaxy! So I'm pretty okay with using the word "Skywalker," but not the word "epoch." MasterRamsobi 10:32 AM, Friday July 23rd, 2010
