This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made in the Senate Hall or new Consensus Track pages rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. The result was adopt slight wording change to the Manual of Style regarding quotations. jSarek 12:14, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Having just learned about this CT, I'd like to make an addendum. As it is, the rules only explicitly allow "Text that is presented within actual quotation marks, indicating spoken dialogue" or "clearly presented within the confines of someone's memoirs, journal, or diary". Unfortunately, as with many specifically-worded policies, this doesn't cover everything. Namely, text that is clearly spoken, but not in quote marks; oftentimes, novels will use italics for cases of a line that a character remembers, and technically even comic quotes would be forbidden by this. So I propose a slight wording change:
- a. Text that is presented within actual quotation marks, indicating spoken dialogue
Will be changed to:
- a. Text that is presented within actual quotation marks, or otherwise clearly marked as spoken dialogue
This, I think, should cover all instances of in-universe spoken dialogue—which I think all are in agreement should be allowed—that doesn't happen to have quote marks around it.
Support
- Lord Hydronium 06:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Definitely better matches the intent of the clause. jSarek 06:55, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Support per the example in "Comments" section. Toprawa and Ralltiir 07:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Green Tentacle (Talk) 12:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Greyman
(Talk) 13:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC) - Don't see why not. Unit 8311 14:26, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Much better. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 14:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Definitely. - JMAS Hey, it's me! 14:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Graestan(Talk) 04:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Common sense. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Ozzel 05:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Goodwood
(Alliance Intelligence) 09:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Good idea. KEJ 18:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Clarifies the quotes policy nicely. Darth Xadún 08:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- Ok. --Eyrezer 09:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- —Xwing328(Talk) 20:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, per Ataru. Love it. Chack Jadson (Talk) 20:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 11:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Oppose
Comments
- This sounds like a good idea. Can you perhaps provide an example of exactly what you're referring to? Toprawa and Ralltiir 07:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- "Still, deep down, he remembered his father once saying, There are times when the end justifies the means. But when you build an argument based on a whole series of such times, you may find that you've constructed an entire philosophy of evil." (Betrayal, 147 in my paperback) - Lord Hydronium 07:39, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- For clarification, this quote would start with "There are times when…" rather than "Still, deep down…"? The actual quote from Luke starts at "There are times…."
- Yes, the part in italics. - Lord Hydronium 08:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- For clarification, this quote would start with "There are times when…" rather than "Still, deep down…"? The actual quote from Luke starts at "There are times…."
- "Still, deep down, he remembered his father once saying, There are times when the end justifies the means. But when you build an argument based on a whole series of such times, you may find that you've constructed an entire philosophy of evil." (Betrayal, 147 in my paperback) - Lord Hydronium 07:39, 5 April 2008 (UTC)