Forum:CT:Purging "It has different text!" foreign covers

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This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made in the Senate Hall or new Consensus Track pages rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. The result was no consensus, foreign covers will not be deleted. -- Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 20:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


Relatively simple and non-instruction creepy policy change I'm asking for here: No images of foreign covers for games/books/comics (posters included here), that have nothing changed but the text. It's a whole new image that we've got uploaded for a negligible and minuscule difference. Now, if the imagery has been altered, keep the image. And if it's something like the Japanese covers, of course we'll keep them. But...

Vote

Support the removal of redundant foreign covers

  1. Thefourdotelipsis 00:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  2. Imperialles 00:36, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  3. -- AdmirableAckbar [Talk] 00:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  4. Take them to SWMerch. Or somewhere else. I don't much care. Just DELETE. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 00:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  5. BORRENLAS TODAS!!! TODAS!!! Victor (talk) 00:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  6. I wouldn't mind listing the titles in other languages somewhere in the articles, but the covers really serve no purpose. Be gone! -- Ozzel 04:44, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  7. For the love of all that is holy, yes! Firebird Moltresheadsig Phoenix Rising 05:38, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  8. "Note carefully how, for the German printing, the English text has been substituted with a German translation. Ingenious!" Havac 05:46, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  9. Per Ozzel. And per Havac. jSarek
  10. I love common sense. Chack Jadson (Talk) 16:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  11. Per Ozzel. Green Tentacle (Talk) 18:03, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  12. If the cover is totally different, keep. But examples like the gallery above are just ridiclous. Unit 8311 11:11, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
  13. Wasted space in the articles. Not worth scrolling through for tiny differences. And, responding to comment below, if someone wants to see the cover in their own language, they can upload it to their own native-language star wars wiki instead of here. Wildyoda
  14. As long as we leave the Japanese covers... and the vintage Polish covers as well, I am happy. Carlitos Moff 01:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
  15. Incredibly pointless. -- I need a name (Complain here) 12:42, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
  16. Purpilia 04:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  17. Per Ozzel Stake black msg 13:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  18. and the point of keeping these is...? ~Roger Roger~ Home of the B1s 23:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
  19. Graestan(Talk) 23:14, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't support the removal of redundant foreign covers

  1. Would you like to remove all of the paperback and hardcover variations of the American novels while we're at it? Anyways, how do these hurt us at all? They don't. Sure, a microscopic portion of Wikia's servers are used to store these images, but they'll still be there once we delete them thanks to Special:Undelete. Category:Book covers and Category:Foreign book covers have already been separated to save any trouble in that area. And you know we get many foreign visitors to this site. Maybe they want to see the name of the book in their native language. And what better way to confirm the translation in the list suggested above than with an actual picture of the foreign book to back it up? I've already corrected several translations by other users this way. Furthermore, several sites have tried to collect images of the different variations of Star Wars books, but only Wookieepedia has succeeded to this extent. Do we really just want to completely remove this extra feature that displays the extent to which Star Wars has reached worldwide? We really shouldn't want to move all of these images to SWMerchandise, as then we'd be having hundreds of duplicate articles of all of the books. Finally, since the gallery is at the end of the article, does it really cause that much viewing displeasure? It's about as discrete as possible without being removed entirely. —Xwing328(Talk) 21:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  2. Wtf, I just found this CT and I say no. Greyman(Paratus) 21:20, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  3. I actually think that the foreign covers are interesting, even if most of them look the same. —Silly Dan (talk) 21:24, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  4. LtNOWIS 08:09, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
    It seems to me that at this point we are simply going around looking for things to dislike. —Graestan(This party's over) 15:23, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Well, yes. This is Wookieepedia. It's a pastime. Havac 21:28, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
  5. Per Xwing328 and Graestan. --Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 18:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
  6. JMAS 23:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
  7. Death to linguistic imperialism!!! KEJ 16:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
  8. --Eyrezer 04:15, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
  9. Don't see why this as big enough thing to need a policy. Put apparently useless dupe images up for VfD if feel you must... -Fnlayson 06:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
  10. Hobbes(Tiger's Lair) 02:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  11. Wookieepedia is not paper. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
  12. They hurt no one, and provide information, however little. Thus, they should stay. Din's Fire 997 19:44, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
  13. Per Xwing.--Goodwood Redstarbird (Alliance Intelligence) 10:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
  14. Master Aban Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 17:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
  15. Per Grae.--Darth Oblivion 22:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Commentary

  • If I oppose this, can I vote multiple times in different languages? Enochf 00:38, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Another possible exception we should consider - when the foreign cover is the source of an image we use on this site. For instance, using CoD as an example, the Polish cover above keeps letters out of Valorum's and Palpatine's hair, and thus might be a better source for an image of Valorum than the English version, should we need it. If this need exists, it's infrequent enough to not warrant an actual objection to the current version of the policy, but I thought I ought to throw it out there. jSarek 11:44, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
    • I was actually thinking of that myself. We definitely want to be able to get the best images possible, but I agree with the overall thrust of the proposal -- we don't need galleries of these things. Havac 20:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Another reason that I failed to stipulate is that galleries are just plain bad encyclopedic practice, and we should be looking to oust them wherever possible... Thefourdotelipsis 21:34, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
    • jSarek: Just do what I did in File:Juno Eclipse portrait.jpg, and link to it in the "other versions" field. Than put Template:Notorphan on the cover so it doesn't get deleted. -LtNOWIS 01:07, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
      • And there we go; problem solved. jSarek 01:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)