Forum:CT:Proposed amendment to the canon notability policy

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The result of the debate was adopt the proposed amendment. —MJ— Comlink 06:55, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

Hi everyone. Currently, the notability policy places restrictions on the types of conjectural canon pages that can be created on Wookieepedia. This was done mainly due to the community's desire to prevent a slew of "unidentified" pages, mostly characters, from being created, as many subjects that appear in canonical stories only received names in Legends sources. A look around the Mos Eisley Cantina can show you that much.

The policy currently allows for an exception for battles and events, due to the large number of them that are not named. The exception reads as follows:

An exception to this rule are battles and other events, as the vast majority of these have conjectural names.

I would like to propose the following amendment to include personal weapons:

Exceptions to this rule include battles and other events, as the vast majority of these have conjectural names; as well as notable personal weapons, such as the lightsaber used by both Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker.

Note that this only includes personal weapons, not all weapons in general. The main intent here is to allow for the creation of pages about notable personal lightsabers, such as those belonging to major canon characters. Lightsabers like Anakin's and Obi-Wan's are notable and should be canonically documented. The use of the word "notable" allows us to judge this on a case by case basis, and prevent pages from being created about weapons that don't need a page or lightsabers belonging to characters who aren't all that important.

Overall, this is a very minor change that won't lead to the creation of all that many more pages, but will allow for the creation of important new pages. Most importantly, it furthers our ability to document canon information.

Vote

Adopt the proposed amendment

  1. As the proposer. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 07:38, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
  2. Normally I would object, but weapons like Anakin's second lightsaber are important. - AV-6R7User talk:AV-6R7 14:30, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
  3. Fe Nite (talk) 19:42, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
  4. I have encountered lots of planets, characters, and places with no official names. - Andykatib 01:28, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
  5. In response to Culator, a notable personal weapon is a notable personal weapon, no matter what it is. It just happens that because of the nature of Star Wars, most of them are lightsabers. I do feel that we have too many lightsaber articles, but some of them are truly notable and deserve to have articles. And for those that are canon, they deserve to have canon articles as well. —MJ— Council Chambers 08:58, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
  6. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:45, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
  7. Agreed. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 20:50, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
  8. Coruscantfan (Talk) 08:18, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
  9. Considering our limited (written) notability policy, I think having so many restrictions for the NuCanon, at this point, is no longer necessary. Culator, bear in mind that these are only notable cases and if they aren't, we can always have fun TC'ding them. To be fair though, other objects and properties should have these restrictions lifted too, like in holocron cases. Winterz (talk) 13:35, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
  10. Strongly agree. The current policy is too restrictive - with the new film coming out later this year and Rebels, the new comics, etc., in full swing, it's time to up our coverage of canon and stuff like this is definitely notable. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:13, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
  11. I believe anyone who watches Star Wars is intrigued by lightsabers, the most unique and recognizable weapon in all of science fiction. Since Wookieepedia strives to be the Star Wars encyclopedia, we should cater to our readers who love them. Besides, I think it's fun to track a lightsaber's progress as it passes through the stream of history and into the hands of successive generations.--Richterbelmont10 R2 sig(come in R2!) 22:19, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
  12. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 17:29, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

Reject the proposed amendment

  1. We've pandered to the lightsaber fetishists for too long. We should do away with lightsaber pages in Legends, not the other way around. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 20:38, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
  2. Only because it's not clear what lightsabers in old and new canon aren't notable. —Silly Dan (talk) 21:19, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

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