This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made in the Senate Hall or new Consensus Track pages rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. The result was no consensus, Main Page will be kept as is until/unless consensus is reached on links to be added. -- Atarumaster88 (Talk page) 00:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
A direct result of the recent Mofference, where it was agreed that a list of important links to Wookieepedia policies and/or guidelines would do well to fill up some of the empty space on the main page, this CT hopes to determine which links would be appropriate. As has already been established, this list wouldn't be that extensive, as the "this day in history" items can be quite long at times; I'm proposing a list of no more than four or five. Anyway, here are the page links I propose.--Goodwood (Alliance Intelligence) 02:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Important Links
- Frequently Asked Questions
- Manual of Style
- Article Layout Guide
- Be bold in editing!
- Sourcing policy
- Image use policy
- Policy and consensus updates
Comments
This space should be reserved for comments about the specific links offered.
- I think I would replace Spoiler Policy with Policy and consensus updates. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I think I might have fudged that link on accident. Sorry, JMAS. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- No worries. I'm sorry if my edit summary sounded harsh or like I was upset. - JMAS 04:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I think I might have fudged that link on accident. Sorry, JMAS. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Per the Wood of Good's comment below, are we only directing this specifically for new users? And even so, I'm not sure everyone peruses the consensus update page enough to be aware of things as they come into/fall out of effect. I just personally think its a good thing for everyone to see when they open the page up. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- That seems understandable. Link list changed, though I'd like to wait a bit for more comments before removing the spoiler policy link.--Goodwood
(Alliance Intelligence) 04:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- That seems understandable. Link list changed, though I'd like to wait a bit for more comments before removing the spoiler policy link.--Goodwood
Suggestions
Suggest new or alternate links here; changes seen as popular will be appended/amended in the list above.
Support
Support the list as-is.
- I admit the fifth link is questionable, and would not hesitate to remove should others think it necessary.--Goodwood
(Alliance Intelligence) 02:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Me likee. Graestan(Talk) 02:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- This covers everything we were discussing earlier. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I like the new links too. Better to replace the 5th with the latest two. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I now support the latest version with the seven links. That is all we need now. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- I like the new links too. Better to replace the 5th with the latest two. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think the fifth one is needed, but I think my suggestion would be good to addition. - JMAS 03:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, that page is a warning, really. I was hoping any addenda would be positive in nature.--Goodwood
(Alliance Intelligence) 03:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- How is it a warning? I think it's a guide for how to properly use images on Wookieepedia. It's constructive. - JMAS 03:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, the image use policy doesn't bug me much, except for the fact that it needs to be cleaned up on its own page. Better sectioning (without changing content) would be perfectly acceptable without having to make a CT proposal on the policy page. It really isn't as negative as I'd thought, all in all. Graestan(Talk) 03:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- How is it a warning? I think it's a guide for how to properly use images on Wookieepedia. It's constructive. - JMAS 03:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, that page is a warning, really. I was hoping any addenda would be positive in nature.--Goodwood
- I support the first four, but would replace the fifth one with my suggestion. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Oppose
Oppose the list as-is OR if you think different links should be made.
See my comment. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)Seems a bit advanced to me, really. Remember these are basic introductions to new users that also come in handy for us regular contributors.--Goodwood(Alliance Intelligence) 03:53, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- No, no, no, no. The main page is cluttered enough already. If this passes, I demand a re-design. --Imperialles 04:38, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Can I demand a redesign anyway? :) Master Aban Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 03:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- Per Imp. Thefourdotelipsis 08:07, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Busy enough as it is. Green Tentacle (Talk) 14:20, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- A casual visitor to the site will not be interested in policies. A typical anon will not be interested in policies and placing them on the Main Page will only interest a traveling wikilawyer. An established user or even a new user will either know the policies or will be able to see them from the welcome message habitually and ubiqitously applied to user talk pages by SFH & Friends. And yes, there's plenty on the Main Page as is. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 15:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- Per Ataru. Unit 8311 17:35, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- I could see the use, but I'm not sure if it would be that useful.Tank 05:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- Per Ataru and Imperialles. Master Aban Fiolli {Alpheridies University ComNet} 03:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Suggestion
- Since the main argument seems to be that the main page is too cluttered already, I propose the creation of a general WP:POLICY page that we would link to, either on the top of the page in the Navigation box. I suggest we replace the Languages link in that box- Wookieepedias in other languages are already across the top, are they not- in a more conspicuous form, I might add. This Policy page will have a general overview of some of the more important WP policies, such as WP:NOT, WP:3RR, Consensus policy, etc. It will have links to other policies. On each major policy (We can decide what counts as "major" elsewhere), we have a brief synopsis, and use the Main article template to link to the other policies. This way, the policies are still available off of the main page, but not as obtrusive and cluttering the page for the casual visitor. What do you guys think? I could work up a brief example of what this page would represent if that would help. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Furthermore, the faqs are already linked to on the faq link in the Navigation bar. We can include a link to Wookieepedia consensus updates on the policy page to help further that cause. This will also allow administrators easier access to a general list of policies rather than having to hunt down the durn things or type Category:Policies on Wookieepedia in the search field. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 04:36, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Furthermore, the faqs are already linked to on the faq link in the Navigation bar. We can include a link to Wookieepedia consensus updates on the policy page to help further that cause. This will also allow administrators easier access to a general list of policies rather than having to hunt down the durn things or type Category:Policies on Wookieepedia in the search field. Atarumaster88