[19:14] Shayanomer: With that, welcome to Inqmoot 138
[19:14] Shayanomer: Absentee notes
[19:15] JediMasterMacaroni: Thanks, doing it now
[19:15] Shayanomer: Preem:
Keep Daine Jir/Legends, Bane Malar/Legends, Battle of Imperial Center, Xamster/Legends, Kobok/Legends, Quor'sav/Legends
Kill Teren Rogriss, Delrakkin/Legends, Triffian/Legends, Unidentified retired Galactic Republic pilot, Czulkang Lah, Troig/Legends, Salporin/Legends
Extend Geelan
Spare Demetrius Zaarin, Khormai/Legends, Novar (Human)
Probe Olana Chion, Cane Adiss/Legends, Garven Dreis/Legends, Koffi Arana, Lepi/Legends, Tunroth
For anything else that pops up, whomever shows up first gets my vote.
Imp: Notes per SE.
CC-8: Notes per SE and Imp, vote to OOM
Fred: Notes per SE. Ecks gets my vote.
[19:15] Shayanomer: Old stuff
[19:16] Shayanomer: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Daine_Jir/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Daine_Jir/Legends?oldid=11228940&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Daine_Jir/Legends
Looks like everything's done, I don't know if there's anything else pending
[19:16]
BOT
ecks: keep, i guess
[19:16] Shayanomer: Although I guess the first bio section can use an image
[19:17] Shayanomer: But I can do that myself
[19:17] Shayanomer: So keep
[19:17] OOM 224: keeep
[19:17] JediMasterMacaroni: keep
[19:17] JediMasterMacaroni: and that's all from me today :P
[19:18] Shayanomer: Daine Jir kept
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Bane_Malar/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Bane_Malar/Legends?oldid=11379623&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Bane_Malar/Legends
[19:18] Shayanomer: Everything's done, I'll handle the unillustrated paragraph
[19:18] Shayanomer: Keep
19:19] OOM 224: Keep
[19:19]
BOT
ecks: keep
[19:19] Shayanomer: Bane Malar kept
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dar_Keyis
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dar_Keyis?oldid=11379638&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Dar_Keyis
There's an Inuse, but no changes for over a month
[19:20]
BOT
ecks: kill
[19:20] OOM 224: hrm, yeah, kill then
[19:20] Shayanomer: Shame, kill
[19:21] Shayanomer: Dar Keyis killed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Teren_Rogriss
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Teren_Rogriss?oldid=11432588&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Teren_Rogriss
No changes, kill
[19:21] OOM 224: Just for the record, Macaroni gives his vote to ecks, notes per Fred
[19:21] OOM 224: kill
[19:21]
BOT
ecks: kill
[19:22] Shayanomer: Teren Rogriss killed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_Imperial_Center
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_Imperial_Center?oldid=11432592&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Battle_of_Imperial_Center
GT got this one, keep
[19:22] OOM 224: keep
[19:23]
BOT
ecks: keep
[19:23] Shayanomer: Battle of Imperial Center kept
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Delrakkin/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Delrakkin/Legends?oldid=11432594&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Delrakkin/Legends
JMM fixed the BTS but other issues remain, kill
[19:23] OOM 224: Kill
[19:24] Shayanomer: ecks?
[19:25] Shayanomer: Delrakkin killed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Triffian/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Triffian/Legends?oldid=11432596&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Triffian/Legends
No relevant changes, kill
[19:25] OOM 224: Kill
[19:26] Shayanomer: Triffian killed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Xamster/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Xamster/Legends?oldid=11432623&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Xamster/Legends
Source investigation pending from JMM, extend
[19:26] OOM 224: I hold three other votes, so I guess we can still keep going if ecks is afk
[19:26] OOM 224: extend
[19:26]
BOT
ecks: err sorry guys
[19:26]
BOT
ecks: extend
[19:27] Shayanomer: Xamster extended
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Geelan
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Geelan?oldid=11432627&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Geelan
[19:27] Shayanomer: BTS issue remaining, extend
[19:27] OOM 224: Extend
[19:27]
BOT
ecks: extend
[19:29] Shayanomer: Geelan extended
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_retired_Galactic_Republic_pilot
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Unidentified_retired_Galactic_Republic_pilot?oldid=11432629&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Unidentified_retired_Galactic_Republic_pilot
No changes, kill
[19:29] OOM 224: kill
[19:29]
BOT
ecks: kill
[19:29] Shayanomer: Republic pilot killed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Czulkang_Lah
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Czulkang_Lah?oldid=11432631&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Czulkang_Lah
No relevant changes, kill
[19:29] OOM 224: kill
[19:29]
BOT
ecks: kill
[19:30] Shayanomer: Czulkang Lah killed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kobok/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kobok/Legends?oldid=11432633&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Kobok/Legends
JMM fixed everything, keep
[19:30] OOM 224: keep
[19:30]
BOT
ecks: keep
[19:30] Shayanomer: Kobok kept
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Troig/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Troig/Legends?oldid=11432635&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Troig/Legends
No relevant changes, kill
[19:30] OOM 224: kill
[19:30]
BOT
ecks: kill
[19:31] Shayanomer: Troig killed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Salporin/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Salporin/Legends?oldid=11432638&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Salporin/Legends
No changes, kill
[19:31]
BOT
ecks: kill
[19:31] OOM 224: kill
[19:32] Shayanomer: Salporin killed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Quor%27sav/Legends
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Quor%27sav/Legends?oldid=11433047&diff=cur
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Quor%27sav/Legends
Current issues are fixed but I'm seeing some more, such as improper CSWE refs and the manga issue not being linked correctly
[19:32] Shayanomer: Extend
[19:32]
BOT
ecks: extend
[19:32] OOM 224: extend
[19:33] Shayanomer: Quor'sav extended
[19:33] Shayanomer: New stuff
[19:33] Shayanomer: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Demetrius_Zaarin
Requires more sections; and therefore more quotes/images.
All done. Green Tentacle (Talk) 10:57, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Could use Skills and abilities, and possibly equipment.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 09:06, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Both added. Green Tentacle (Talk) 10:57, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Smaller paragraphs should be merged.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 09:20, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Merged the smaller ones. Green Tentacle (Talk) 10:57, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
I see several four-five-lines paragraphs. Would you be against merging some of them? here and here for example. — Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 18:29, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
First, per the Layout Guide, articles should be formatted for the standard skin with right rail shown. In those two examples there's one paragraph with 5 lines with the rail shown, the others are between 6 and 9 lines. Second, the average paragraph length for five of the most recent FAs (excluding intro and BTS) is 89 words per paragraph. The shortest paragraph in those two sections is 85 words, and the average is 105, so they're not exactly short. Green Tentacle (Talk) 20:40, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Yeah, these are really fine, Samonic. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 21:43, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Eh, alright, I don't really know what the "standard skin" is, but they just look short to me.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 07:16, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
[19:34] Shayanomer: Current issues are fixed but I would appreciate more illustration throughout the article
[19:34] Shayanomer: Probe
[19:34]
BOT
ecks: could probably just ping GT and spare this
[19:35] OOM 224: Eh, it's not that big of an issue to warrant a probe
[19:35] OOM 224: yeah, let GT know and spare for now
[19:35] Shayanomer: Spare in that case
[19:35] Shayanomer: Demetrius Zaarin spared
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Khormai/Legends
[19:35] Shayanomer: Duplicate links.
Done.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 18:44, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Eliminate page numbers from referencing.
Done.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 19:05, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Needs more sectioning.
Does it require any more? — Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 10:43, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
History should start with a subheading as well.
Done.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 08:25, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
BTS: Redundant information; unsourced information; missing full publication dates.
Is there any left?; I don't see any; added.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 19:05, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
The second paragraph is irrelevant and speculative. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 08:55, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Removed.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 10:43, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Release dates aren't sourced properly now.
Oops, should be done now.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 10:43, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
The release date should be sourced to the Dark Horse site while information about the subject should be sourced to the comic. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 17:08, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Ref 20 should use {{Tales}}. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 16:57, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Included.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 18:44, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Appearances should list individual comic issues instead of story arcs. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 08:55, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Taken care of.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 10:43, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Some of those paragraphs are way too large on the default skin, they can be broken up; also needs more illustration. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 17:08, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Has the article improved? I increased the illustrations' size and added some; paragraphs have been broken.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 08:24, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Dates have been sourced properly, too.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 08:24, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
[19:35]
BOT
Wiki-Bot: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Tales
[19:36] Shayanomer: No more issues from my side
[19:36]
BOT
ecks: spare
[19:36] OOM 224: spare
[19:37] Shayanomer: Khormai spared
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Novar_(Human)
Could use imagecat.
Redlink.— Samonic ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol.svg 08:30, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Fixed by Sam himself but seeing more issues like date referencing and paragraph length
[19:37] Shayanomer: Probe
[19:37] OOM 224: virtually all the old TOTJ FAs are like this
[19:37] OOM 224: probe
[19:38]
BOT
ecks: probe
[19:38] Shayanomer: Novar probed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Olana_Chion/Legends
Lightsaber not mentioned.
Check Databank entry to verify text matching completely.
Her Databank entry doesn't mention 19 BBY date.
Probe
[19:38] OOM 224: probe
[19:38]
BOT
ecks: probe
[19:38] Shayanomer: Olana Chion probed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Cane_Adiss/Legends
In 2008, after the Databank entry said his fate was unknown, Leland Chee said he was killed in SWInsider.png "Star Wars Q&A" – Star Wars Insider 98. Not sure if this should be treated as an error, given how his original death was overwritten by the Databank, but either way, this is something that needs to be in the article in some manner. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 22:11, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
For clarity, killed on the Khetanna. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 22:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
After looking into this myself, just fixed it after deciding that Leland Chee's word is what the site should go by. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:05, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Hanzo got this one, spare
[19:39] OOM 224: spare
[19:39] Shayanomer: Cane Adiss spared
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Garven_Dreis/Legends
Infobox-exclusive data
Missing equipment, including the blaster pistol the Databank says he wielded.
Behind the scenes not 100% cited.
Somebody who has access to all the information cited to certain sources/appearances should check them to see if the text presented is factually accurate. As I've seen numerous times already in status articles promoted in 2008, many of them say things not literally said by the material at hand. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:03, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
19 BBY Clone Wars end date in intro never mentioned again. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:06, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Probe
[19:39]
BOT
ecks: spare
[19:39] OOM 224: probe
[19:40] Shayanomer: Garven Dreis probed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Koffi_Arana
Infobox exclusive data.
From carefully looking at behind the scenes, missing reference tags. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 22:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
probe
[19:41] OOM 224: probe
[19:41]
BOT
ecks: probe
[19:42] Shayanomer: Koffi Arana probed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Lepi/Legends
Eliminate page and chapter numbers from referencing.
Coachelle Prime's location citation needs additional clarification.
Investigate this source and update the article accordingly.
Article features no information from Rookies: Rendezvous and The Clone Wars: Invitation Only despite them being listed as appearances of the subject.
"Fortune, Fate, and the Natural History of the Sarlacc" is marked as ambiguously canon, yet the article references in-universe information to this source without the appropriate template.
Eliminate speculation throughout the article, such as Ref 16.
BTS: Missing full comic release date; some unsourced and unnecessary information. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 17:51, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
probe
[19:42] OOM 224: probe
[19:42]
BOT
ecks: probe
19:42] Shayanomer: Lepi probed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tunroth
Cite individual comic issues instead of story arcs.
Digitize KOTOR comic image.
A couple of dates aren't sourced properly.
Would like to see sectioning employed for "Tunroth in the galaxy."
Unsourced BTS. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 18:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
probe
[19:42] OOM 224: probe
[19:42]
BOT
ecks: probe
[19:42] Shayanomer: Tunroth probed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/4-A7
Very sizeable update, recommending for Redux. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 01:18, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
redux
[19:42] OOM 224: Redux
[19:43] Shayanomer: 4-A7 reduxed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/ZeHethbra
Overhaul referencing so that sources are individually cited, there is no reason why a character's appearance needs multiple sources in the same citation, for example.
Digitize comic book images.
BTS hosts redundant information and some information that appears to be improperly sourced.
No Mediacat.
Investigate abridged audiobooks. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 20:27, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
probe
[19:43] OOM 224: probe
[19:43]
BOT
ecks: probe
[19:43] Shayanomer: ZeHethbra probed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Rawmat_shortage_of_1%E2%80%932_ABY
Dates aren't sourced properly.
Underlinking.
Duplicate links,
Images can be enlarged.
Needs to comply with Layout Guide regarding events.
Can the information in "Notable participants" not just be incorporated into the sections mandated by the Layout Guide? As it stands, at least half of it consists of descriptions for each and every entity.
BTS: Unsourced; redundant information. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 13:29, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
probe
[19:43] OOM 224: probe
[19:43]
BOT
ecks: probe
[19:43] Shayanomer: Rawmat shortage probed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Quille
Date need another source.
Image captions should connect with this subject.
Needs more sectioning.
Ref 2 needs {{CSWECite}}.
Unsourced BTS.
Investigate Legacy of the Force: Revelation audiobook. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 13:34, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
probed
[19:43]
BOT
Wiki-Bot: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Template:CSWECite
[19:44] OOM 224: probe
[19:44]
BOT
ecks: probe
[19:44] Shayanomer: Quille probed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Zonder
Infobox-exclusive information.
Check if source supports date.
Ensure subjects have context (e.g. Selonia, Coruscant).
Ref 3 doesn't need to exist when a citation to the work itself will suffice.
Can use more sectioning and images.
Can use an Equipment section.
Improperly-sourced BTS. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 13:56, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
probe
[19:44] OOM 224: probe
[19:44]
BOT
ecks: probe
[19:44] Shayanomer: Zonder probed
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Foga_Brill/Legends
Needs illustration and sectioning.
Imperial Warlords doesn't support Taris being a planet or the 18 ABY date.
Underlinking.
Document in-universe mentions in The Essential Chronology and its update.
BTS: Unsourced; redundant information.
Investigate audiobooks. Shayanomer Din Djarin's clan.svg (talk) 13:56, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
probe
[19:44]
BOT
ecks: probe
[19:45] OOM 224: probe
[19:45] Shayanomer: Foga Brill probed
[19:45] Shayanomer: From the bin
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ginivex-class_fanblade_starfighter?t=20220518192314
One of the sources is older than a month, probe
[19:46] Shayanomer: Pending an update
[19:46]
BOT
ecks: ugh, 2021 FAN being probed
[19:46]
BOT
ecks: probe
[19:46] OOM 224: probe
[19:46] Shayanomer: Ginivex probed
[19:47] Shayanomer: Nothing else from me, anything from you guys
[19:47] OOM 224: nothing from me here
[19:47]
BOT
ecks: nay
[19:47] Shayanomer: Great
[19:47] Shayanomer: Inqmoot 138 concludes, thanks for attending
[19:48] OOM 224: Thanks for hosting, Shay!
19:48]
BOT
ecks: great job
[19:48] Shayanomer: Np
[19:48]
BOT
ecks: hope i'm not on paperwork
[19:48] Shayanomer: It's Fred pulling double duty :P
[19:48]
BOT
ecks: ah fuck
[19:48] OOM 224: oof
[19:48]
BOT
ecks: poor guy
[19:49] Shayanomer: Fortunately he's got time for this one
[20:14] Master Fredcerique: Fuck my life…
[20:14] Master Fredcerique: I quit