[17:54:46] <exiledjedi> Okay, welcome to Inquisitorius Meeting 95.
[18:05:36] <Toprawa> Nonsense nominations
[18:05:49] <Toprawa> The AC has a handy bylaws clause for "nonsense nominations"
[18:05:50] <Imperators> yay
[18:05:51] <Toprawa> I quote:
[18:06:10] <Toprawa> "Nominations that exhibit strong evidence showing that the nominator has no inclination to work on the article during the review process will be candidates for the "nonsense nomination clause" and may be removed short of the stipulated two-week idle period with a consensus of three AC support votes. This consensus of three support votes may alternatively be obtained from present users in IRC, in which case a note
[18:06:13] <Toprawa> will be left on the GAN page that the nomination has been removed via AC consensus.."
[18:06:39] <Toprawa> With inspiration from the current Maul nomination, I propose the Inq adopt this rule
[18:06:58] <exiledjedi> Sounds good to me.
[18:07:30] <Toprawa> SE votes support in absentia
[18:08:00] <ecks> aye
[18:08:08] <Imperators> ~support
[18:08:53] <Toprawa> (I support, of coursE)
[18:09:15] <exiledjedi> Okay, the nonsense nominations addition passes.
[18:09:35] <Toprawa> We can remove the Maul nomination now, btw, via IRC vote
[18:09:38] <Toprawa> Just say:
[18:09:40] <Toprawa> Support
[18:09:42] <ecks> Support
[18:09:43] <exiledjedi> Support
[18:09:49] <Toprawa> Done
[18:10:04] <Toprawa> We can remove it once the meeting is over, unless someone wants to handle it concurrently
[18:10:27] <Toprawa> The second one I wanted to talk about was the meeting time
[18:10:38] <Toprawa> From the Inq Bylaws page: "As standard, Inqmoots will be held at 8:00 PM ET.
[18:10:38] <Toprawa> "
[18:11:12] <Toprawa> We did this because SE told us he could reliably make Saturday night meetings, whereas our European friends weren't always locks to make it even in the afternoons
[18:11:30] <Toprawa> Well, SE's story has changed, evidenced by the fact that he could not make this meeting, originally scheduled for 8 ET
[18:11:58] <Toprawa> So it no longer makes sense to cut the Europeans out of the loop
[18:12:17] <Toprawa> I propose we make Inqmoots 2 PM ET
[18:12:27] <Toprawa> Does this time work for everyone?
[18:12:40] <exiledjedi> That time works for me.
[18:13:00] <ecks> better than 8 PM for sure
[18:14:01] <Toprawa> SE votes support in absentia
[18:14:36] <exiledjedi> Imperators?
[18:14:38] <ecks> support
[18:15:28] <Imperators> ugh, timezone conversion... 4 PM would be far better for me, but whatever, I'm happy to leave notes
[18:15:59] <Toprawa> Imperators, I'm trying to accommodate you personally, to be honest
[18:16:10] <Toprawa> Since it seems like you're the toughest one to get to attend besides SE
[18:16:33] <ecks> 2 or 4 PM (or even 6 PM) are all fine by me, if I can't make 2 PM on a particular day I won't be able to make 4 or 6 either
[18:16:53] <Toprawa> I'd rather do 4:30 ET if we're going to do it later
[18:17:00] <Toprawa> That just works out better for me
[18:17:35] <Imperators> 4:30 PM would be okay with me
[18:17:42] <Toprawa> EJ, is that hard on you?
[18:17:44] <exiledjedi> 4:30 PM ET isn't going to be too easy for me to make.
[18:17:56] <Toprawa> What about 3 ET?
[18:18:03] <exiledjedi> That would work.
[18:18:43] <Toprawa> ecks, Imperators?
[18:18:49] <ecks> Inqmoot times, illustrated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5C8rnpAbIs
[18:18:52] <ecks> 3 ET is fine
[18:19:00] <exiledjedi> Basically anything that doesn't start between 4 - 5:30 PM ET works for me.
[18:21:11] <Toprawa> Imperators?
[18:21:16] <Imperators> most Saturdays I'm working until 3 PM ET
[18:21:34] <Toprawa> You guys are impossible :P
[18:21:55] <Imperators> I realize that, and that's why I'm saying I'm fine with leaving notes.
[18:22:29] <Toprawa> It just kind of sucks to have three Inqs present when we need four to even probe things
[18:22:41] <Toprawa> Absentee notes work, of course, but it's better to have live participation
[18:22:49] <exiledjedi> I can do 4 PM if we have 45 minute meetings.
[18:23:02] <Toprawa> I think we need to allow ourselves time to do 60 minutes at least
[18:23:12] <Toprawa> Like this discussion is taking us 40 minutes already
[18:23:58] <Toprawa> I don't know what to do
[18:24:01] <Toprawa> I don't have an answer
[18:24:17] <Toprawa> I feel like I want to make a chart of meeting times and have you guys check off which ones work best for you, then we'll see which is the best option
[18:24:21] <Toprawa> I can't juggle all this in my head
[18:24:32] <Toprawa> Let's move on
[18:24:46] <exiledjedi> Okay, moving on to the articles from last meeting...
[18:25:05] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bane%27s_Heart_(lightsaber)
[18:25:10] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831154
[18:25:16] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Bane%27s_Heart_(lightsaber)
[18:25:32] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:25:35] <Toprawa> Probe
[18:25:37] <Toprawa> Or
[18:25:38] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:25:42] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:25:55] <Imperators> kill
[18:26:07] <ecks> kill
[18:26:16] <exiledjedi> Bane's Heart (lightsaber) killed.
[18:26:24] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831156
[18:26:32] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Saber_XC-01_starfighter
[18:26:37] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Star_Saber_XC-01_starfighter_(second_review)
[18:26:41] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:26:43] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:26:47] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:26:59] <Imperators> kill
[18:27:04] <ecks> kill
[18:27:27] <exiledjedi> Star Saber XC-01 starfighter killed.
[18:27:32] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Asli_Krimsan%27s_holocron
[18:27:39] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831157
[18:27:44] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Asli_Krimsan%27s_holocron
[18:27:54] <exiledjedi> No substantial changes.
[18:28:17] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:28:20] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:28:27] <ecks> kill
[18:28:29] <Imperators> kill
[18:28:49] <exiledjedi> Asli Krimsan's holocron killed.
[18:29:02] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mad_About_Me/Legends
[18:29:06] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831160
[18:29:14] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Mad_About_Me/Legends
[18:29:16] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:29:20] <ecks> kill
[18:29:20] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:29:28] <Imperators> kill
[18:29:52] <exiledjedi> Mad About Me killed.
[18:29:56] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:30:00] <exiledjedi> Oops
[18:30:14] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Spiker
[18:30:18] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831161
[18:30:22] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Spiker
[18:30:30] <exiledjedi> No substantial changes.
[18:31:04] <Imperators> kill
[18:31:08] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:31:09] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:31:16] <ecks> kill
[18:31:36] <exiledjedi> Spiker killed.
[18:31:48] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Janek_Sunber
[18:31:53] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831162
[18:31:56] <Toprawa> I read that "Spider killed" and felt relieved :P
[18:32:02] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Janek_Sunber
[18:32:19] <exiledjedi> No substantial changes.
[18:32:29] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:32:31] <Imperators> arachnophobic much, Tope?
[18:32:32] <Imperators> kill
[18:32:36] <Toprawa> Yes. Much.
[18:32:40] <Imperators> heh
[18:32:49] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:33:42] <Toprawa> SE votes Kill
[18:33:54] <exiledjedi> Janek Sunber killed.
[18:34:01] <ecks> kill
[18:34:03] <ecks> oops
[18:34:07] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Solomahal
[18:34:11] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831163
[18:34:15] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Solomahal_(second_review)
[18:34:21] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:34:30] <ecks> kill
[18:34:30] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:34:31] <Imperators> kill
[18:34:38] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:34:42] <exiledjedi> Solomahal killed.
[18:34:56] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vost_Tyne
[18:34:59] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831164
[18:35:04] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Vost_Tyne
[18:35:06] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:35:12] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:35:19] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:35:34] <ecks> kill
[18:36:01] <Imperators> kill
[18:36:02] <Toprawa> SE votes Kill
[18:36:12] <exiledjedi> Vost Tyne killed.
[18:36:16] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kharrus/Legends
[18:36:20] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831165
[18:36:25] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Kharrus/Legends
[18:36:28] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:36:30] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:36:43] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:36:51] <Imperators> kill
[18:37:11] <Toprawa> SE votes Kill
[18:37:23] <ecks> kill
[18:37:32] <exiledjedi> Kharrus killed.
[18:37:47] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Slith
[18:37:58] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831166
[18:38:03] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Slith
[18:38:07] <exiledjedi> No substantial changes.
[18:38:16] <Imperators> kill
[18:38:19] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:38:22] <ecks> kill
[18:38:38] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:38:43] <exiledjedi> Slith killed.
[18:38:49] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/B%27omarr_Order/Legends
[18:38:52] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831167
[18:38:56] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/B%27omarr_Order/Legends
[18:38:59] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:39:04] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:39:12] <Imperators> kill
[18:39:13] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:39:16] <ecks> kill
[18:39:34] <exiledjedi> B'omarr Order killed.
[18:39:39] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Harbinger_(Hammerhead-class)
[18:39:42] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831168
[18:39:46] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Harbinger_(Hammerhead-class)
[18:39:49] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:39:55] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:40:01] <exiledjedi> kill
[18:40:20] <ecks> kill
[18:40:21] <Imperators> kill
[18:40:28] <exiledjedi> Harbinger killed.
[18:40:33] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Raid_on_the_Sith_Embassy
[18:40:37] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831169
[18:40:41] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Raid_on_the_Sith_Embassy_(second_review)
[18:40:47] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:41:13] <Imperators> kill
[18:41:16] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:41:17] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:41:20] <ecks> kill
[18:41:35] <exiledjedi> RotSE killed.
[18:41:42] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kol_Skywalker
[18:41:46] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831173
[18:41:51] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Kol_Skywalker_(second_review)
[18:41:54] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:41:59] <ecks> kill
[18:42:05] <Imperators> kill
[18:42:07] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:42:17] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:42:36] <exiledjedi> Kol Skywalker killed.
[18:42:41] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Octavian_Grant
[18:42:44] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831174
[18:42:48] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Octavian_Grant
[18:43:12] <exiledjedi> Some changes, but nothing on the meeting page, and not everything was done.
[18:43:18] <ecks> kill
[18:43:20] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:43:21] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:43:21] <Imperators> kill
[18:43:27] <exiledjedi> Octavian Grant killed.
[18:43:37] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fairwind
[18:43:40] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831175
[18:43:45] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Fairwind_(second_review)
[18:43:47] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:43:57] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:43:58] <ecks> kill
[18:44:00] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:44:10] <Imperators> kill
[18:44:25] <exiledjedi> Fairwind killed.
[18:44:30] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wol_Cabasshite/Legends
[18:44:33] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831176
[18:44:37] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Wol_Cabasshite/Legends
[18:44:40] <exiledjedi> No substantial changes.
[18:44:44] <ecks> kill
[18:44:44] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:44:53] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:45:02] <Imperators> kill
[18:45:13] <exiledjedi> Wol Cabasshite killed.
[18:45:17] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kardue%27sai%27Malloc/Legends
[18:45:21] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831177
[18:45:24] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Kardue%27sai%27Malloc/Legends
[18:45:27] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:45:29] <ecks> kill
[18:45:30] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:45:37] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:45:48] <Imperators> kill
[18:46:12] <exiledjedi> Kardue... killed.
[18:46:20] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Enhanced_Security_and_Enforcement_Act
[18:46:23] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831178
[18:46:27] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Enhanced_Security_and_Enforcement_Act
[18:46:29] <exiledjedi> No changes.
[18:46:34] <Imperators> kill
[18:46:37] <Toprawa> Kill
[18:46:44] <exiledjedi> Kill
[18:47:36] <ecks> kill
[18:47:39] <exiledjedi> ESaEA killed.
[18:47:43] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Arca_Jeth
[18:47:47] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=7831179
[18:47:51] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Arca_Jeth_(third_review)
[18:47:58] <exiledjedi> If this one can be extended until next meeting, I'll fix it. Supreme Emperor (talk) 14:41, September 26, 2018 (UTC)
[18:48:13] <Imperators> wut
[18:48:24] <Imperators> combo-breaker
[18:48:24] <Toprawa> I will point out that we didn't list every issue in the original probation
[18:48:34] <Toprawa> So if he wants a chance to fix it, fine
[18:48:39] <Toprawa> But we're going to make it tough on him
[18:48:45] <Toprawa> He thinks it's just these two little things
[18:48:52] <Toprawa> But there are more issues
[18:49:15] <Toprawa> Digitize the comic images
[18:49:28] <Toprawa> The BBY dates need proper referencing
[18:49:41] <Imperators> comic issues instead of arcs
[18:49:48] <Toprawa> I know for a fact no one checked any of the "Straight from the Horse's Mouth" articles I added to the Sources list
[18:50:11] <Toprawa> Ref 38 is kind of ridic
[18:50:20] <Toprawa> That can be explained less...neurotically
[18:50:39] <Toprawa> Although he always carried his weapon, Jeth seldom used it in his later years.[34]
[18:50:45] <Toprawa> That ref says: ↑ Arca Jeth is never shown wielding his lightsaber throughout the entirety of the Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi story line.
[18:50:53] <Toprawa> So how the hell do you know he seldom wielded it?
[18:51:24] <Toprawa> Databank entries are Last name, First name
[18:51:42] <Imperators> BTS needs to be fully referenced
[18:51:46] <Toprawa> Add issue data for Starships & Vehicles item in the Sources list like Fact Files
[18:52:03] <ecks> I suppose we can extend if he really wants to try it
[18:52:05] <Toprawa> More images overall could be included in the Bio
[18:52:10] <Toprawa> This is very Monobook-formatted
[18:52:15] <Toprawa> Yes, I agree, ecks
[18:52:23] <Toprawa> I mean to say I'm voting to extend with all of these additional issues
[18:52:26] <Toprawa> He's got his chance :P
[18:52:30] <Imperators> extend
[18:52:32] <exiledjedi> Extend
[18:52:37] <Toprawa> Oh, I'm not done, though :P
[18:53:13] <ecks> https://media.giphy.com/media/amnZC37fDEuoE/giphy.gif
[18:53:33] <Toprawa> Many of the paragraphs in the Bio need to be broken up into smaller ones
[18:53:36] <Toprawa> Again, this is very Monobook
[18:53:50] <Toprawa> SE underestimated us
[18:53:55] <Toprawa> Let him never make this mistake again :P
[18:54:24] <Toprawa> The Legacy image improperly removed its quote boxes
[18:54:37] <exiledjedi> How exactly is the Sephi thing stated in the comics?
[18:54:38] <Imperators> Legacy image needs to have the speech bubbles filled in, at least the intact ones
[18:54:44] <Imperators> or, what Tope saud
[18:54:46] <Imperators> *said
[18:54:48] <exiledjedi> I don't remember that at all.
[18:54:59] <Imperators> I think that was in forum(s)
[18:55:08] <Imperators> by Chee, I think
[18:55:14] <Toprawa> ↑ 35.0 35.1 Ooroo, Odan-Urr, and Memit Nadill all used battle meditation throughout Tales of the Jedi: The Golden Age of the Sith and Tales of the Jedi: The Fall of the Sith Empire, the events of which took place in 5000 BBY.
[18:55:14] <exiledjedi> It isn't sourced to forums.
[18:55:19] <Toprawa> This isn't self-sourcing
[18:55:28] <Imperators> EJ: of course it isn't :P
[18:55:34] <Toprawa> Chee "theorized" that all pointed-ear species were related to the Sephi or something
[18:55:40] <Toprawa> But I don't think that was ever fully established
[18:56:08] <Toprawa> Ref 11 should really use a {{C| tag to specify an entry, similar to CSWE
[18:56:30] <Toprawa> That's all I've got for now :P
[18:56:33] <Toprawa> Good luck, SE :P
[18:56:38] <ecks> extend
[18:56:38] <exiledjedi> Extend
[18:56:41] <Toprawa> Extend
[18:56:50] <Imperators> already voted extend
[18:57:04] <exiledjedi> Arca Jeth lives on a little longer.
[18:57:16] <exiledjedi> 19 killed, 1 mortally wounded.
[18:57:21] <Toprawa> XD
[18:57:29] <exiledjedi> Onto new articles:
[18:57:40] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zygerrian/Legends
[18:57:50] <exiledjedi> Zygerrian/Legends–This article has gone through a lot of changes since it first attained FA status. There was the whole Zygerrian appearance retcon, which necessitated me to perform a major rewrite. After that, there have been lots of updates, expansions and restructuring, culminating with the most recent update for the Friends Like These adventure. It is only fair that I propose the INQ to send this on
[18:57:51] <exiledjedi> e to Redux. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 17:45, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
[18:58:08] <Toprawa> Let's see if we can probe it first
[18:58:17] <Toprawa> Redlinks everywhere
[18:58:49] <Toprawa> The "Relations with the Empire" image is just a bad joke
[18:58:58] <ecks> quote template usage
[18:59:12] <Toprawa> Digitize all comic images
[18:59:24] <Toprawa> This article seriously has like 20 redlinks
[18:59:40] <Toprawa> The images don't fit well like that in the BTS
[18:59:47] <Toprawa> They need to go R-L, if anything
[18:59:56] <Toprawa> The TCW image is just kind of pointless, though
[19:00:54] <Toprawa> "At some point between 1000 BBY and 0 BBY"
[19:00:59] <exiledjedi> There are some questionable date references.
[19:01:00] <Toprawa> I'd like to see this date confirmed by the source
[19:01:15] <Toprawa> Confirm all BBY/ABY dates that don't come from Warfare, basically
[19:01:24] <Toprawa> That should be enough :P
[19:01:35] <ecks> probe
[19:01:37] <exiledjedi> Probe
[19:01:47] <Imperators> probe
[19:01:48] <Toprawa> Oh, QGJ is going to try and fix this, though
[19:01:50] <Toprawa> That's annoying
[19:01:57] <Toprawa> I didn't realize he was putting forth his own work
[19:02:00] <Toprawa> Probe
[19:02:11] <exiledjedi> Zygerrian probed.
[19:02:13] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Corla_Metonae/Legends
[19:02:14] <Toprawa> If he fixes this, /then/ we'll Redux
[19:02:23] <exiledjedi> Infobox-exclusive information
[19:02:23] <exiledjedi> Unsourced infobox information
[19:02:23] <exiledjedi> None of the BBY dates have proper sourcing
[19:02:23] <exiledjedi> BTS unsourced
[19:02:23] <exiledjedi> Databank entries are Last name, First name Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:41, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
[19:02:28] <Toprawa> Proob
[19:02:31] <Imperators> probe
[19:02:32] <exiledjedi> Probe
[19:02:36] <ecks> probe
[19:02:49] <exiledjedi> Corla Metonae probed.
[19:02:54] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Flashpoint_(planet)
[19:02:59] <exiledjedi> Recent edit has called attention to the fact that this article asserts in the infobox (and now categories) that Flashpoint is a desert planet, but the article body itself never really states this explicitly. At the very least, a pipelink should be introduced somewhere. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:28, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
[19:03:05] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Flashpoint_(planet)?diff=next&oldid=7666212
[19:03:21] <Toprawa> Probe
[19:03:27] <ecks> probe
[19:03:28] <exiledjedi> Missing backup links as well.
[19:03:49] <Toprawa> BTS unsourced
[19:04:03] <Imperators> probe
[19:04:04] <Toprawa> The subsectioning in Locations is kind of pointless
[19:04:28] <Toprawa> The infobox image isn't digital, I don't think
[19:04:38] <Toprawa> The other comic image might not be either
[19:04:40] <Toprawa> This should be checked
[19:04:54] <exiledjedi> Probe
[19:04:58] <Toprawa> Probe
[19:05:02] <exiledjedi> Flashpoint (planet) probed.
[19:05:17] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Slick
[19:05:32] <exiledjedi> Has undergone a major expansion from On the Front Lines. Before we even potentially Redux this thing, I'd like someone to confirm that this information is accurate. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 15:23, September 16, 2018 (UTC)
[19:05:36] <Toprawa> This is the bulk of it: https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Slick?diff=7862483&oldid=7807221
[19:06:05] <Toprawa> Probe for confirmation of accuracy (i.e., from the original nominator or another interested party)
[19:06:19] <exiledjedi> Probe
[19:06:42] <Imperators> probe
[19:06:59] <ecks> I honestly feel like probing it *might* be inaccurate is a bit questionable
[19:07:05] <ecks> probing it because*
[19:07:32] <Toprawa> Wait, come again?
[19:08:01] <Toprawa> I'm not sure what you mean by that
[19:08:03] <ecks> I don't think "this might not be accurate but we don't know" is a questionable reason to probe an article
[19:08:17] <ecks> why does the guy who added it not count as an "interested party"?
[19:08:38] <ecks> does every status article update require third-party verification?
[19:09:08] <Toprawa> No status article should have a 2000-byte flyby addition without repercussions
[19:09:13] <Toprawa> Verification at the very least
[19:09:19] <Toprawa> A Redux review at best
[19:09:24] <ecks> that's why the redux process exists, no?
[19:09:37] <Toprawa> For my money, the issue is credibility here
[19:09:55] <Toprawa> If an established editor made this, I wouldn't question its accuracy because that person has credibility
[19:09:58] <Toprawa> I have no idea who this guy is
[19:10:03] <Toprawa> How do I know this isn't fanon?
[19:10:13] <Toprawa> Someone with credibility should confirm this
[19:10:23] <ecks> it's properly sourced and referenced. what more can you ask from him?
[19:10:32] <Toprawa> There's nothing more he can do
[19:10:37] <Toprawa> Because he lacks credibility
[19:10:41] <ecks> if something is referenced, the burden of proof, imo, lies on us, not him
[19:10:47] <Toprawa> The larger issue is that the nominator isn't looking over his article
[19:10:57] <ecks> if we probe it, the burden of proof is shifted to him
[19:11:13] <ecks> hence why I suggest it's probed
[19:11:20] <ecks> er
[19:11:22] <ecks> reduxed*
[19:11:27] <Toprawa> Vote how you want, ecks
[19:11:28] <Toprawa> I'm voting Probe
[19:11:39] <ecks> I vote redux
[19:12:00] <exiledjedi> It has missing backup links anyway, so I vote probe based on this and the new additions.
[19:12:01] <Toprawa> The burden of proof should shift to him
[19:12:04] <Toprawa> He added the information
[19:12:12] <Toprawa> The burden proof is never not on him
[19:12:19] <Toprawa> We don't need a Redux to verify that
[19:12:39] <ecks> and he provided proof in the form of WP:S-compliant referencing
[19:12:45] <Toprawa> SE votes probe too
[19:12:46] <ecks> we can probe it for missing backup links
[19:13:37] <exiledjedi> I question how an indirect mention only can be used to source some of this stuff without additional referencing.
[19:13:40] <ecks> it's 4-1 to probe so let's just move on
[19:14:02] <exiledjedi> Slick probed.
[19:14:13] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Halmere
[19:14:25] <exiledjedi> Infobox exclusive info.
[19:14:25] <exiledjedi> BTS unsourced
[19:14:25] <exiledjedi> 1990s ABY citation. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:04, September 25, 2018 (UTC)
[19:15:07] <ecks> image caption punctuation
[19:15:08] <ecks> probe
[19:15:11] <Imperators> probe
[19:16:21] <exiledjedi> Probe
[19:16:42] <Toprawa> Probe
[19:16:50] <exiledjedi> Halmere probed.
[19:17:02] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dulok/Legends
[19:17:09] <exiledjedi> Behind the scenes not fully sourced. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:54, September 26, 2018 (UTC)
[19:17:09] <exiledjedi> 1980s and 199os BBY/ABY citations. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:59, September 29, 2018 (UTC)
[19:17:21] <exiledjedi> Missing backup links
[19:17:33] <exiledjedi> Redlink(s)
[19:17:38] <ecks> probe
[19:17:43] <Imperators> probe
[19:17:57] <Toprawa> Probe
[19:17:59] <exiledjedi> BTS is not fully sourced.
[19:18:09] <exiledjedi> Probe
[19:18:13] <exiledjedi> Dulok probed.
[19:18:27] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crev_Bombaasa/Legends
[19:18:34] <exiledjedi> Certainly, some images can be found to illustrate the article body. Reading a giant imageless chunk of text is tough, especially in Oasis QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 12:48, September 27, 2018 (UTC)
[19:19:01] <exiledjedi> This could also use some more sectioning / breaking up of paragraphs.
[19:19:10] <Toprawa> Probe
[19:19:23] <exiledjedi> BTS unsourced.
[19:19:24] <ecks> Bts unsourced
[19:19:28] <ecks> beat me to it
[19:19:28] <ecks> probe
[19:19:43] <Imperators> probe
[19:19:52] <exiledjedi> There are some BBY / ABY dates that require additional referencing.
[19:20:04] <exiledjedi> Probe
[19:20:10] <exiledjedi> Crev Bombaasa probed.
[19:20:36] <exiledjedi> All right, now we have the Rebels articles:
[19:20:42] <exiledjedi> Star Wars Rebels. For the following Rebels articles, there is no reason to ever link to a Senate Hall thread in a reference. If there's something in that SH forum that's being used to source this date information, then that needs to be explained in this reference note.
[19:20:50] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_on_an_Imperial_convoy
[19:21:01] <Toprawa> I say we group-probe
[19:21:05] <Imperators> yes please
[19:21:08] <Toprawa> Unless someone wants to look at additional issues
[19:21:12] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_on_Imperial_Troop_Transports
[19:21:15] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Duel_on_Stygeon_Prime
[19:21:19] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Heist_in_Capital_City
[19:21:24] <exiledjedi> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mission_to_free_Wookiee_prisoners
[19:21:27] <exiledjedi> Probe all
[19:21:29] <Toprawa> Probe all
[19:21:30] <ecks> pending the release of "The Essential Guide for Wookieepedia", authored by me, I concur with group probe
[19:22:02] <Imperators> probe all
[19:22:08] <exiledjedi> Rebels articles probed.
[19:22:13] <Imperators> yesss
[19:22:24] <exiledjedi> Should we look in the Maintenance bin?
[19:22:28] <ecks> yuck
[19:22:51] <Toprawa> Can you link to the bin?
[19:22:56] <ecks> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/FA_maintenance_issues
[19:22:56] <Toprawa> I'm curious to see what's in there at least
[19:22:58] <Toprawa> thanks
[19:23:08] <Toprawa> Let's probe Wraith Squadron
[19:23:15] <Toprawa> I added a Fact tag for an unsourced item in the infobox
[19:23:28] <Imperators> kill
[19:23:42] <exiledjedi> Missing backup links
[19:23:43] <Toprawa> All the BBY/ABY dates need confirmation
[19:23:54] <ecks> probe
[19:23:58] <Toprawa> 7.5 ABY is being sourced to Solo Command, for example
[19:23:59] <Toprawa> No way
[19:24:06] <exiledjedi> Databank is last name, first name
[19:24:07] <Imperators> probe
[19:24:25] <Toprawa> More images
[19:24:35] <Toprawa> The barren textlands are vast
[19:24:49] <exiledjedi> Redlink(s)
[19:24:58] <exiledjedi> Redirect(s)
[19:25:22] <exiledjedi> The BTS could probably be subsectioned.
[19:26:13] <Toprawa> Probe
[19:26:19] <exiledjedi> Probe
[19:26:28] <exiledjedi> Wraith Squadron probed.
[19:26:49] <exiledjedi> I think we will call it a day and save the rest of the maintenance bin for next time.
[19:26:53] <Toprawa> Agreed
[19:27:37] <ecks> yup
[19:27:52] <exiledjedi> Tope schedules Meeting 96.
[19:27:59] <Toprawa> Let's pick a meeting time, though
[19:28:04] <Toprawa> https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:Toprawa_and_Ralltiir/Zev_Senesca
[19:28:06] <exiledjedi> And I have paperwork.
[19:28:10] <Toprawa> Imperators, I think you're SOL, sorry
[19:28:23] <Imperators> SOL?
[19:28:30] <Toprawa> Shit Out of Luck :P
[19:28:48] <Toprawa> I think earlier afternoon just works better for the three of us
[19:29:17] <Toprawa> There isn't a single time that works for everyone
[19:29:30] <Imperators> fine by me
[19:29:40] <Toprawa> Stick with 2 PM ET?
[19:29:53] <exiledjedi> Works for me.
[19:29:56] <Imperators> alright, I'm off
[19:29:59] <Toprawa> Later
[19:31:45] <Toprawa> Go with 2 PM, then
[19:32:42] <exiledjedi> Okay, thanks for coming everybody.
[19:32:47] <Toprawa> Thanks for hosting, EJ
[19:32:48] <Toprawa> Good job
[19:32:52] <exiledjedi> No problem.