[03:00:05] <SimToprawa> Ok, welcome, one and all, to Inqmoot 67. [03:01:36] <SimToprawa> Ok, then, without further ado, let us begin. [03:01:47] <SimToprawa> Probed articles from Meeting 66. [03:01:54] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bey [03:02:02] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=5295214 [03:02:12] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Bey_%28second_review%29 [03:02:21] <SimToprawa> No changes. [03:02:25] <Cade> Kill [03:02:29] <SimToprawa> Kill [03:02:32] <SirCavalier> Kill [03:02:50] <SimToprawa> All three absentees vote kill. [03:02:59] <SimToprawa> Bey is killed. [03:03:08] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Tales_of_the_Jedi [03:03:18] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?diff=cur&oldid=5203110 [03:03:22] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Inq/Star_Wars:_Tales_of_the_Jedi_%28second_review%29 [03:04:05] <SirCavalier> Keep [03:04:06] <Cade> Keep [03:04:11] <SimToprawa> Without intending to impugn Floyd's work, I really can't say whether it's all in there or not [03:04:18] <SimToprawa> I guess we just have to trust him [03:04:23] <SimToprawa> Keep [03:04:26] <exiledjedi> Keep [03:04:41] <SimToprawa> Absentees vote keep. [03:04:45] <SimToprawa> Tales of the Jedi kept [03:04:48] <SimToprawa> Moving on to new articles [03:05:04] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wedge_Antilles [03:05:10] <SimToprawa> MJ left a list of things. [03:05:14] <SimToprawa> Please refer to the meeting page. [03:05:34] <SimToprawa> To summarize, a bunch of Imperial Handbook updates, and he doesn't care enough to keep taking care of the article [03:05:51] <Cade> Since Star Woods screwed over the continuity [03:05:57] <exiledjedi> Probe [03:05:57] <SirCavalier> Probe it. Someone may feel like it [03:06:01] <Cade> Probe. [03:06:02] <SimToprawa> Probe [03:06:12] <SimToprawa> Absentees probe. [03:06:15] <SimToprawa> Wedge Antilles probed. [03:06:23] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jori_Daragon [03:06:27] <SimToprawa> Jori Daragon - Update needed. That Insider article talks about the character's name origin, which isn't mentioned in the BTS. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:37, November 29, 2014 (UTC) [03:06:56] <Cade> Probe. [03:06:58] <SimToprawa> Probe [03:07:00] <exiledjedi> Probe [03:07:02] <SirCavalier> Probe [03:07:06] <SimToprawa> GT votes probe. [03:07:11] <SimToprawa> Jori Daragon probed. [03:07:20] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Moradmin_Bast [03:07:26] <SimToprawa> This article has major issues with failing to properly implement information from the character's ANH deleted scene. Leland Chee stated that deleted scenes were canon as long as they didn't contradict anything, so everything from Bast's deleted scene should be included in the article proper. The short exchange he has with Vader while walking down the Death Star hall provides some pretty... [03:07:27] <SimToprawa> ...significant information into his psyche as far as his opinion of Tarkin, etc. I see both a Biography and a Personality and traits expansion here. In addition, an image from that deleted scene should be included in the Bio's first subsection, and the picture of Bast and Tarkin should be moved into the second Bio subsection. The image currently in the BTS was never properly sourced and does... [03:07:29] <SimToprawa> ...not currently have a source at all (I removed it because it was completely bogus). Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:29, November 29, 2014 (UTC) [03:07:51] <Cade> Yikes. [03:07:53] <Cade> Probe. [03:07:56] <exiledjedi> Probe [03:07:57] <SimToprawa> Probe. [03:07:58] <SirCavalier> Probe [03:08:03] <SimToprawa> GT probes. [03:08:07] <SimToprawa> Moradmin Bast probed [03:08:12] <SimToprawa> To the Maintenance bin... [03:08:24] <exiledjedi> Ah yes [03:08:35] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Soontir_Fel?t=20141119150803 [03:08:58] <SimToprawa> Update needed from Imperial Handbook [03:09:01] <SirCavalier> Is the Handbook a month old? [03:09:06] <Cade> I'm getting that for Christmas :P [03:09:07] <SirCavalier> More than a month old? [03:09:12] <SimToprawa> Yeah [03:09:15] <SimToprawa> October 20 [03:09:15] <Cade> As of nine days ago [03:09:21] <SirCavalier> Probe [03:09:25] <SimToprawa> Probe [03:09:29] <SimToprawa> Cade: Same :P [03:09:29] <exiledjedi> Probe [03:09:51] <SimToprawa> Probe, Cade? [03:09:57] <Cade> Yeah [03:10:09] <SimToprawa> Um. [03:10:10] <SimToprawa> We have a problem. [03:10:14] <Cade> Vhat. [03:10:20] <SimToprawa> Legally, we need five people to vote in support of probation. [03:10:30] <Cade> >_< [03:10:34] <SimToprawa> None of the absentees mentioned the maintenance bin stuff. [03:10:40] <SimToprawa> Do we assume they're in favor of probation? [03:10:46] <SimToprawa> I can probably get Floyd on his phone :P [03:10:49] <SimToprawa> If you give me a minute :P [03:10:54] <Cade> Dewit [03:11:06] <Cade> Half a dozen of my articles will need updating on Tuesday :P [03:12:02] <SimToprawa> Culator|Away, if you're there, now would be the time to make an entrance [03:12:18] <SimToprawa> Floyd probes via FB message :P [03:12:32] <SimToprawa> Soontir Fel probed [03:12:37] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Xamuel_Lennox?t=20141119150410 [03:12:41] <SimToprawa> Also needs update from Handbook [03:12:48] <exiledjedi> Sigh, probe. [03:12:53] <SirCavalier> Probe [03:12:54] <SimToprawa> Sorry, EJ [03:12:56] <SimToprawa> Probe [03:13:02] <SimToprawa> Floyd probes [03:13:22] <SimToprawa> Floyd says we're lucky it's halftime :P [03:13:28] <SimToprawa> Cade? [03:13:33] <Cade> Probe [03:13:37] <SimToprawa> Xamuel Lennox probed [03:13:46] <SimToprawa> Nothing else in the bin [03:13:49] <SimToprawa> Anything from anyone else? [03:13:51] <SimToprawa> I actually have one... [03:14:07] <exiledjedi> Nothing from me [03:14:15] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ma%27kis%27shaalas [03:14:56] <SimToprawa> Ok... [03:15:02] <SimToprawa> Let me explain this. [03:15:05] <SimToprawa> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ma%27kis%27shaalas?diff=prev&oldid=5399274 [03:15:19] <SimToprawa> You'll see from the following edits to that page that I ended up removing Insider 87 [03:15:48] <SimToprawa> He doesn't actually appear on the cover, though he does appear in this picture, which is a similar-but-not-identical version of the Insider 87 cover image: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Jedi_Hunted.jpg [03:16:17] <SimToprawa> Basically, the issue is that this Jedi_Hunted.jpg image is in the article now with no reference to it in the article, because I removed the mention that was there for poor extrapolation [03:16:26] <SimToprawa> The article should make some mention of it [03:16:33] <SimToprawa> Being on a wanted poster, etc. [03:17:14] <exiledjedi> Is the alternate cover image official? [03:17:23] <SirCavalier> Except, how "canon" is a cover? [03:17:42] * SimToprawa shrugs [03:17:58] <SimToprawa> I would treat the cover as canon, but I think the real issue is this image. [03:18:03] <SimToprawa> At present, it doesn't even have a proper source [03:18:08] <exiledjedi> Yeah [03:18:11] <SimToprawa> It's sourced to Insider 87, which is false, as I just explained [03:18:37] <SimToprawa> At the very least, I think it should have a BTS update in the event no IU addition would be added [03:19:13] <SimToprawa> It probably came from the artist's website or something [03:19:36] <exiledjedi> The guy has the image on his deviant art profile. [03:19:47] <SimToprawa> The artist? [03:19:50] <exiledjedi> http://udoncrew.deviantart.com/art/Jedi-Hunted-45157210 [03:19:57] <exiledjedi> I guess it is him. [03:20:01] <SimToprawa> That's probably where it came from [03:20:10] <SimToprawa> In which case I would say it's not canon if it wasn't published in an official source [03:20:32] <SimToprawa> But I would still suggest a BTS mention to explain that Ma'kis was included in this image, which was later altered for the Insider 87 cover [03:20:32] <SirCavalier> So how different is it from the Insider version? [03:20:42] <SirCavalier> Do we have a comparable image? [03:20:45] <SimToprawa> Yes [03:20:58] <SimToprawa> http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060408013103/starwars/images/c/c6/Insider87.jpg [03:21:14] <SimToprawa> You can see that they rearranged the images so the most recognizable characters are visible [03:21:35] <SimToprawa> i.e., Obi-Wan (upper right corner), Yoda, (left side), and Ki-Adi-Mundi (top left) [03:21:44] <SimToprawa> In the original, Ma'kis is top left corner [03:22:05] <SimToprawa> Ma'kis is not visible on the final cover version [03:22:48] <SimToprawa> The original image says that Ma'kis has been captured/killed [03:23:04] <SimToprawa> Something should go into the BTS, at least [03:23:11] <Cade> Yeah. [03:23:16] <SirCavalier> Then I would say that nothing needs to be added IU. Remove all mention and possibly state he was in the original artwork but detail the change. [03:23:39] <exiledjedi> Sounds good to me. [03:23:47] <SimToprawa> Fine with me [03:24:02] <SimToprawa> I think the original version even details his bounty amount [03:24:14] <SimToprawa> 876,000,000? [03:24:24] <exiledjedi> Seems excessive. [03:24:41] <SimToprawa> Anyways, probe on that [03:25:07] <exiledjedi> Probe [03:25:23] <Cade> Probe [03:25:24] <SirCavalier> Probe [03:25:34] <SimToprawa> Floyd probes from somewhere in the ether [03:25:38] <SimToprawa> Ma'kis probed [03:25:40] <SimToprawa> Anything else? [03:26:06] <SimToprawa> Ok, meeting duties... [03:26:21] <SimToprawa> Cade schedules Meeting 68 [03:26:27] <SimToprawa> Culator does paperwork [03:26:30] <SimToprawa> Meeting is concluded.