[18:19]	<GrandMoffTranner>	!hieverybody
[18:19]	<Nuku-Nuku>	Hello, CavalierOne, ChanServ, Darth_Culator, Graestan, GrandMoffTranner, GreenTentacle, GT|away, Harrar, and Nuku-Nuku !!!
[18:19]	<Darth_Culator>	There we go.
[18:20]	<Graestan>	All right, sit back, relax, and strap it down. White Sox baseball, coming your way.
[18:20]	<CavalierOne>	I prefer cricket.
[18:20]	<Graestan>	Ye Olde Articles first:
[18:20]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Zayne_Carrick&diff=2690965&oldid=2630405
[18:20]	<GreenTentacle>	CavalierOne: I think we're outnumbered. :P
[18:20]	<Graestan>	kill per Tope's comment on the page and lack of subsequent edits
[18:20]	<Graestan>	this thing just needs redoing
[18:20]	<CavalierOne>	We are, GT :P
[18:21]	<Harrar>	yeah
[18:21]	<CavalierOne>	Kill, kill, kill.
[18:21]	<Graestan>	one Sox fan > a million other teams' fans
[18:21]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Kill.
[18:21]	<GreenTentacle>	Should have been put out of its misery long ago.
[18:21]	<GreenTentacle>	Kill.
[18:21]	<Harrar>	typifies the failure for ongoing subjects to have their P&Ts updated, which is a serious concern
[18:22]	<Harrar>	Draay and the gang let a Padawan slip through their fingers. The Inqs won't make the same mistake. KILL
[18:22]	<Darth_Culator>	Per Harrar and his way with words.
[18:22]	<Darth_Culator>	(Some people just... not have way.)
[18:22]	<CavalierOne>	He speaky English language good.
[18:23]	<GrandMoffTranner>	He speak good.
[18:23]	* Graestan	speak-um pidgin one-ah-three timeys better
[18:23]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I speaks gooder.
[18:23]	<Graestan>	anyhow
[18:23]	<Graestan>	He gone.
[18:23]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Seha_Dorvald&diff=2679048&oldid=2630364
[18:23]	<Graestan>	keep
[18:24]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Keepify.
[18:24]	<Darth_Culator>	'Twas updated. No other issues listed. Keep.
[18:24]	<GreenTentacle>	Looks goo. Keep.
[18:24]	<CavalierOne>	PT needs updating with Outcast info, tho.
[18:24]	<GreenTentacle>	*good
[18:24]	<Harrar>	intro & P&T need updating for Outcast too...
[18:24]	<Harrar>	but that can be done soon, no need to strip
[18:24]	<CavalierOne>	Powers and abilities too.
[18:24]	<Graestan>	oooo
[18:25]	<Graestan>	wait then
[18:25]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Oh, yeah...
[18:25]	<CavalierOne>	I did the legwork on Octa for her nom - there's a lot of info that can be put there.
[18:25]	<GreenTentacle>	Good point.
[18:25]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Hmm. Extend probation, then?
[18:25]	<GreenTentacle>	Extend it.
[18:25]	<Darth_Culator>	Yeah. Extension.
[18:25]	<Graestan>	extend probe
[18:25]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Extension then.
[18:25]	<CavalierOne>	Extension.
[18:25]	<Graestan>	damnit
[18:25]	<Harrar>	yeah
[18:25]	<Graestan>	I'm done trusting people's words on the page
[18:25]	<Harrar>	extend
[18:26]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Heh
[18:26]	<CavalierOne>	I only know this since Seha and Octa share most scenes.
[18:26]	<CavalierOne>	I can fix it.
[18:26]	<Harrar>	cool I'll find some LOTF quoations too
[18:27]	<Graestan>	okay, probe extended
[18:27]	<Graestan>	we need to look at this one a bit more closely: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Barpotomous_Drebble&diff=2632363&oldid=2630373
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[18:29]	<Harrar>	how about the fact that in the second intro paragraph, a block of sentences is repeated twice? :P
[18:29]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Welcome, newest Inq CC.
[18:29]	<CC|Away>	Hey Tranner, everyone.
[18:29]	<Graestan>	KILL IT
[18:29]	<GrandMoffTranner>	We're reviewing Barpotomous Drebble.
[18:29]	<Graestan>	I don'tcare what fixes can be done
[18:29]	<GrandMoffTranner>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Barpotomous_Drebble&diff=2632363&oldid=2630373
[18:29]	<Graestan>	that is some seriously sloppy complete bullshit and it needs to die
[18:30]	<CavalierOne>	Kill.
[18:30]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Killify it.
[18:30]	<Darth_Culator>	Alll-righty then.
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[18:30]	<Harrar>	Kill
[18:30]	<GreenTentacle>	Good attempt at fixing it. But it doesn't look like he got everything so kill.
[18:30]	<CC7567>	I'd say kill.
[18:32]	<Graestan>	okay,he dead
[18:32]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Armand_Isard&diff=2657762&oldid=2630375
[18:32]	<Graestan>	this is improved
[18:32]	<Graestan>	but I am going to ask Harrar to look :P
[18:33]	<Harrar>	now. Acky's Ysanne and 4dot's Armand contradict each other on who killed him, for one thing
[18:33]	<Darth_Culator>	Eh, it doesn't really. 4dot's is just less specific.
[18:34]	<GreenTentacle>	Per Culator.
[18:34]	<Graestan>	noting this
[18:35]	<Darth_Culator>	I never really saw much wrong with Armand to begin with.
[18:35]	<GreenTentacle>	Our issues have been fixed.
[18:35]	<Graestan>	my vote is at Keep although I'd notmind the rumor being mentioned
[18:35]	<CavalierOne>	Noted issue are fixed, keep.
[18:35]	<Harrar>	well then I'd say it needs more detail. Darknell Operation and Millennium Falcon are lacking
[18:35]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Then keep.
[18:36]	<Graestan>	CC?
[18:36]	<CC7567>	I think I'd better abstain; I have to get more info first.
[18:37]	<Graestan>	howmuch is missing from MF?
[18:38]	<Harrar>	hard to say, it's just that it's bare bones atm. I'll add some though tomorrow, I don't want his head on a platter or anything
[18:39]	<Graestan>	you think we should just keep,then?
[18:39]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I don't recall Armand having that big of a role. He only appears on a few pages if I remember correctly.
[18:39]	<Harrar>	I think extend probe but if I'm overruled I don't mind.
[18:39]	<CC7567>	If there are still issues with it, I just say extend the probe to fix them because the addressed issues are fixed.
[18:40]	<GrandMoffTranner>	I say keep - it's not that big of a deal. I can add in the info, if need be. (Just not this week, as I will be on vacation.)
[18:40]	<Graestan>	alright, I am changing to extend if it's your recommendation; I sure as heck am not after fixing it
[18:40]	<CavalierOne>	I'll go with extend if thats
[18:40]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Fine, extend.
[18:41]	<CavalierOne>	the recommendation.
[18:41]	<Harrar>	I'll give it a helping hand, promise
[18:41]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Dass_Jennir&diff=2593128&oldid=2582864
[18:41]	<Graestan>	kill
[18:41]	<Graestan>	nothing doing
[18:41]	<Darth_Culator>	Kill, per the original writer.
[18:41]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Killirize it.
[18:42]	<CavalierOne>	Killage.
[18:42]	<GreenTentacle>	Kill. No brainer.
[18:42]	<CC7567>	Kill.
[18:42]	<Harrar>	Kill, he can be fully updated once blue harvest is done, otherwsie this'll just go on and on
[18:42]	<Graestan>	per Harrar, certainly
[18:43]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Ta%27a_Chume&oldid=2630381
[18:43]	<Graestan>	kill, no work
[18:43]	<GreenTentacle>	Same as before. Kill.
[18:43]	<CavalierOne>	Kill.
[18:43]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Killitize it.
[18:43]	<Darth_Culator>	That's a 2006 FA. This is 2009. Kill.
[18:44]	<Graestan>	[Redacted by administration]
[18:44]	<Harrar>	[Redacted by administration]
[18:44]	<Harrar>	(Kill)
[18:44]	<Graestan>	make her into an axlotl tank!
[18:44]	<CC7567>	Kill.
[18:44]	<Darth_Culator>	Cross-franchise ref FTW!
[18:45]	<Graestan>	alright, she dead
[18:45]	<Graestan>	Ye Newe Articles now
[18:45]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Wyyrlok_(III)
[18:45]	<Graestan>	I place this on probation. The P&A was added but as I read it I find POV and possibly speculation.
[18:46]	<Darth_Culator>	And a bit more flowery than is justified. Probe.
[18:47]	<Graestan>	Wait, that didn't need a P&A
[18:47]	<Graestan>	But I still see POV
[18:47]	<Harrar>	the P&T has nothing about how he betrayed and killed Krayt etc. Laggy P&Ts are a problem with ongoing characters. Probe this fat sucker
[18:47]	<CavalierOne>	Probe.
[18:47]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Proberify it.
[18:48]	<GrandMoffTranner>	It's missing a few minor details from Legacy 38.
[18:48]	<GreenTentacle>	Probe to fix up P&T/P&A.
[18:49]	<Graestan>	is probed
[18:49]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nyna_Calixte
[18:49]	<Graestan>	this one's a right mess
[18:49]	<Harrar>	"Do you question my Fa status, Inquisitors?" "Yes, but that is one of my duties as you defined them."
[18:49]	<Graestan>	update tag
[18:49]	<Graestan>	horrible, horrible pronunciation guide
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[18:49]	<GreenTentacle>	The update tag is for a comic that only came out the other day so that's not a big problem.
[18:49]	<Darth_Culator>	[Redacted by administration]
[18:50]	<GreenTentacle>	The pronunciation thing is...interesting.
[18:50]	<CavalierOne>	Probify.
[18:50]	<Harrar>	oh my unfunny joke is too late. Anyway kill Nyna, she's another example of ongoing comics problems
[18:50]	<Darth_Culator>	[Redacted by administration]
[18:50]	<Graestan>	needs a serious copyedit
[18:50]	<GreenTentacle>	But that's not enough to probe it.
[18:50]	<Graestan>	Toprawa: Calixte
[18:50]	<Toprawa>	Kill
[18:50]	<Graestan>	I know you had concerns
[18:50]	<GreenTentacle>	Copyediting would be.
[18:50]	<Graestan>	this is to probe or not
[18:50]	<Toprawa>	Probe
[18:51]	<Toprawa>	The article does need copy-editing
[18:51]	<GreenTentacle>	Anything specific?
[18:51]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Proberitize.
[18:51]	<Toprawa>	There's a substantial difference between "voice" in that article
[18:51]	<Graestan>	it's written very scarily
[18:51]	<Graestan>	yes
[18:51]	<Toprawa>	meaning one person writes most of it, and then 7 other poeple come along and "update" it
[18:51]	<Toprawa>	it's like a giant patchwork quilt of clusterfuckery
[18:51]	<Graestan>	"Back at Calixte's apartment, outside her refresher, Veed discussed with her the reports of Cade's escape from the Sith temple and the Sith's anger because of it"
[18:51]	<GreenTentacle>	Probably because it's half StarNeptune, half Greyman.
[18:51]	<Toprawa>	no
[18:51]	<Graestan>	that is a hard sentence to read without stopping to think
[18:51]	<Toprawa>	I refer to the noob half of the article
[18:51]	<Toprawa>	not Greyman and Star
[18:51]	<GreenTentacle>	Ah.
[18:52]	<Toprawa>	what they have done is fine
[18:52]	<Toprawa>	but random people come along and try to update it
[18:52]	<Toprawa>	and it loses its quality
[18:52]	<GreenTentacle>	True.
[18:52]	<Toprawa>	Which is my reason for probe
[18:52]	<Darth_Culator>	I am acutely aware of this phenomenon.
[18:52]	<GreenTentacle>	Then probe her.
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[18:52]	<GrandMoffTranner>	Gotta go. Grae will have my votes.
[18:53]	<Graestan>	[Redacted by administration]
[18:53]	<GrandMoffTranner>	What have I done?
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[18:53]	<Toprawa>	If we're still probing things, I have one more to put on the agenda at the last minute, if that's fine.
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[18:54]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wolf_Sazen
[18:54]	<Harrar>	sorry guys I was lagging for ages then it bugged me out
[18:54]	<Graestan>	Needs a P&A
[18:54]	<Graestan>	the guy fought with one damn arm
[18:54]	<CavalierOne>	Probe.
[18:54]	<Graestan>	also, needs to be looked over for speculative wording
[18:54]	<Darth_Culator>	And it should be worded exactly like that in the article.
[18:54]	<Graestan>	"He was quite contemplative, spending much of his time meditating and thinking about the future"
[18:54]	<Graestan>	Comic books don't usually make such ultimate statements.
[18:55]	<Darth_Culator>	"Wolf Sazen was able to fight proficiently with one damn arm."
[18:55]	<Toprawa>	Only a Sith deals in absolutes?
[18:55]	<Graestan>	They show him meditating, that doesn't mean he spends a majority of his time doing so.
[18:55]	<Harrar>	it's in the second paragraph of the P&T, acky didn't think that this merited a slimline P&A
[18:55]	<Toprawa>	It doesn't show him using any other Force power?
[18:55]	<Graestan>	I disagree
[18:56]	<Harrar>	though more may have come to light, there's no point probing over a missing P&A heading
[18:56]	<CavalierOne>	The CG would have added more powers he was capable of using.
[18:56]	<Graestan>	CG indeed
[18:56]	<GreenTentacle>	Yeah.
[18:56]	<Harrar>	okay true
[18:58]	<Darth_Culator>	Dead air. Um. Dead air.
[18:58]	<Graestan>	yeah, yeah
[18:58]	<Graestan>	probe it is
[18:58]	<Graestan>	Agenda items:
[18:58]	<Graestan>	"Tutorials. Come on people. Chack Jadson (Talk) 19:38, 19 July 2009 (UTC) "
[18:59]	<Toprawa>	Wait
[18:59]	<Darth_Culator>	Wait, Top had one.
[18:59]	<Graestan>	Here's what I have to sayL
[18:59]	<Toprawa>	I have one to add.
[18:59]	<Graestan>	Write your own damn tutorial.
[18:59]	<Toprawa>	Firmus Piett is severely lacking in information from "Scoundrel's Luck," a choose-your-own-adventure book
[18:59]	<Toprawa>	CSWE has officially canonized the "right" path through the book
[19:00]	<Toprawa>	Relevant information can be found in Executor at present
[19:00]	<Toprawa>	At the very least, the portion of the bio should be expanded, and non-canon paths should be detailed in the BTS
[19:00]	<Graestan>	hang on while my browser loads Executor :P
[19:00]	<Toprawa>	that portion*
[19:00]	<Darth_Culator>	It has? Neat.
[19:00]	<CavalierOne>	Per Culator.
[19:00]	<Graestan>	it's like the Spaceball One crawl, loading this page
[19:01]	<Toprawa>	I vote to probe on that missing information.
[19:01]	<Toprawa>	I can show whomever what pages need to be looked at should they want to update it
[19:01]	<Harrar>	okay per Toprawa
[19:01]	<CavalierOne>	Probe per Top.
[19:01]	<Graestan>	alright, probe it is
[19:01]	<GreenTentacle>	Top's the expert. Probe.
[19:02]	<Darth_Culator>	Tis probed. Moving on.
[19:03]	<Graestan>	okay, back to Tutorials item
[19:03]	<Graestan>	like I said, write your own if you want them
[19:03]	<Graestan>	I may or may not get back to mine, but I already have valuable stuff there
[19:03]	<GreenTentacle>	Meh. The idea was to encourage more people to write FAs.
[19:03]	<GreenTentacle>	That's hardly an issue now.
[19:04]	<Harrar>	that's the last thing we need! :P
[19:04]	<Graestan>	considering I disagree with content in two of the others, I don't really care for the whole idea anymore anyhow
[19:04]	<CavalierOne>	I don't think we have a problem in that regard,
[19:04]	<Toprawa>	It wouldn't kill me to see the whole thing scrapped.
[19:04]	<Toprawa>	In an official sense, anyway
[19:04]	<Toprawa>	We can still write them
[19:04]	<Toprawa>	at our leisure, etc.
[19:04]	<Graestan>	Yeah.
[19:04]	<GreenTentacle>	I'm happy to keep them there.
[19:05]	<CavalierOne>	Ditto.
[19:05]	<GreenTentacle>	But it's not the end of the world if people don't add to them.
[19:05]	<Graestan>	We should place essay templates, though.
[19:05]	<GreenTentacle>	And per Grae.
[19:05]	<Toprawa>	Template would be good.
[19:05]	<Harrar>	per GT
[19:05]	<Graestan>	They do not represent the whole site, not even mine, even though it's the best. :P
[19:06]	<Harrar>	Okay then what's next?
[19:07]	<Graestan>	"Inquisitorius Conference: I have an idea which I think could help speed some of the noms off the page, but it will take a short spurt of dedication by the majority of our body. I'll explain more at the Inqmoot. "
[19:07]	<Graestan>	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:Jedimasterfiolli/Inq
[19:07]	<GreenTentacle>	Dedication? I'm unfamiliar with this concept. :P
[19:07]	<Toprawa>	Also, reading?
[19:07]	<Toprawa>	I was told there would be no reading involved in this meeting.
[19:07]	<Graestan>	Yeah, Fiolli can propose this later.
[19:07]	<Graestan>	In my opinion.
[19:08]	<Harrar>	I find this idea quite charming, it's like a parent's evening
[19:08]	<Graestan>	majority + dedication = oxymoron, also
[19:08]	<CavalierOne>	From what I've read, I, personally, may find it hard to commit the time to this.
[19:08]	<Toprawa>	yeah, per Cav
[19:08]	<Toprawa>	Signing up for any hard time would not be great for me.
[19:09]	<Toprawa>	My availability is far from static
[19:09]	<GreenTentacle>	Per Top.
[19:09]	<CavalierOne>	Same here.
[19:09]	<Graestan>	I could swing it, maybe, but yeah, not soon
[19:09]	<Graestan>	I have body parts to have removed first
[19:09]	<GreenTentacle>	Don't you like being a guy? :P
[19:10]	<Harrar>	true, if we can only get half muster on inq meetings then for deadlines like this it would be hard, though I think the idea is very initiativevive
[19:10]	<Harrar>	...there goes my vaunted wordpower :P
[19:10]	<Toprawa>	The Inq has revered for inventing new words. :)
[19:10]	<Toprawa>	is*
[19:11]	<Harrar>	I do think getting people to go over articles on IRC saves mucho time though
[19:11]	<Harrar>	not that I've ever done it
[19:11]	<GreenTentacle>	It's my preferred method of giving feedback.
[19:11]	<GreenTentacle>	And getting it.
[19:11]	<Toprawa>	It's a nice way to do it, but again, I'm not signing up for a set schedule I know I won't probably even adhere to
[19:12]	<Harrar>	hmm. there really aren't many links to IRC on the FAN page/linky-things
[19:12]	<CavalierOne>	My time, especially at the weekend, is not set in stone, even setting aside time differences.
[19:12]	<Harrar>	some nominators maybe aren't that keyed into it as an option
[19:12]	<Toprawa>	The only way I would do this would be for my long overdue paycheck to arrive in the mail.
[19:12]	<CavalierOne>	With bonus.
[19:13]	<Toprawa>	And the promise of more paychecks to continue arriving
[19:13]	<Graestan>	I never got a paycheck for Wookieepedia but I got one hell of a bonus.
[19:13]	<Graestan>	Anyhow, meeting adjourned.
[19:13]	<Graestan>	SOX WIN