[18:58] Ataru: All right. I think we're ready.
[18:58] Ataru: The4dotelipsis; Are you master of ceremonies?
[18:59] The4dotelipsis: Bah!
[18:59] The4dotelipsis: Someone else can do it.
[18:59] Ataru: :-(
[18:59] Ataru: Fine.
[18:59] Xwing328: hehe
[18:59] The4dotelipsis: Yes, you do it.
[18:59] Ataru: I'll do it, since Cull's here.
[18:59] Ataru: Dim greetings everyone
[18:59] Ataru: Make sure the channel isn't invite only
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[18:59] Ataru: First up
[18:59] Ataru: Is the log on?
[18:59] Xwing328: yup
[18:59] Xwing328: always
[19:00] Ataru: Excellent
[19:00] The4dotelipsis: Crud.
[19:00] Ataru: Talon Karrde
[19:00] LordHydronium: NR and Vong War sections seem really short for the importance the character has. TTT is one short paragraph per book.
[19:00] Ataru: Expansion of YVW needed. Sectioning.
[19:00] Ataru: TTT?
[19:00] Ataru: nvm
[19:00] Ataru: I get it now
[19:00] Xwing328: I had no objections
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[19:00] The4dotelipsis: Yeah, real YVW really needs more.
[19:00] LordHydronium: It could use an overall expansion
[19:01] Xwing328: lol - breathes has talent to use the computer while in the shower :P
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[19:01] The4dotelipsis: Does it cover the galaxies stuff?
[19:01] Ataru: Karrde?
[19:01] Ataru: I don't think so.
[19:01] Xwing328: I wouldn't know
[19:01] The4dotelipsis: Hmm.
[19:01] The4dotelipsis: Needs that too.
[19:01] Ataru: Okay, vote then
[19:01] The4dotelipsis: Remove
[19:01] Breathes|shower: errrrrr
[19:01] LordHydronium: Remove.
[19:01] Ataru: Remove
[19:02] The4dotelipsis: It was too short to begin with, methinks.
[19:02] Xwing328: Only based on you saying it needs more, remove
[19:02] Ataru: StarNeptune present?
[19:02] Ataru: Havac?
[19:02] Breathes|shower: can someone link me really quick?
[19:02] Ataru: Darth_Culator?
[19:02] Darth_Culator: Remove. Rule 9, 12, 14.
[19:02] Breathes|shower: to Karrde?
[19:02] LordHydronium: Neptune voted keep on the Meeting page, but since she's here I don't know if that holds
[19:02] Ataru: (Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talon_Karrde)http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talon_Karrde
[19:03] LordHydronium: I mean, if she doesn't respond it stays
[19:03] Havac: I'm not really here.
[19:03] Ataru: Okay.
[19:03] Ataru: Hmm
[19:03] LordHydronium: But since she's here she might change
[19:03] LordHydronium: If she is here.
[19:03] Xwing328: If she doesn't comment in a few, obviously use her earlier vote
[19:03] LordHydronium: Right. So for now it's 5 remove, 1 keep.
[19:03] Ataru: Right
[19:04] LordHydronium: Anyone?
[19:04] Ataru: I need two more votes for removal, or we have no consensus
[19:04] Xwing328: Let's wait for breathes to read
[19:04] Ataru: How about Imp?
[19:04] Ataru: Imperialles?
[19:04] Breathes|shower: so we're saying it could be expanded in the YVW section?
[19:04] Ataru: yees
[19:04] LordHydronium: And the NR section
[19:04] Xwing328: o whoops...lol. I looked at Star's votes for mine. Here's my real ones: Remove (easy fixes). Short Personality, not even P&T (Rule 14). Unsourced quotes (Rule 12).
[19:05] Breathes|shower: I think Remove
[19:05] Ataru: Okay, I need Imp's vote or something
[19:05] LordHydronium: One more needed.
[19:05] LordHydronium: Havac? Imp?
[19:05] Ataru: Jeez, we're going slow today
[19:05] Ataru: Hmmm
[19:06] Havac: Is it sourced?
[19:06] Ataru: yes
[19:06] Breathes|shower: I wonder about Images also, perhaps better use of Images could be made
[19:06] Havac: Heh, remove.
[19:06] Breathes|shower: unsourced quotes though
[19:06] Ataru: Removed. Next.
[19:06] Ataru: Ebenn Q3 Baobab
[19:06] LordHydronium: Sourcing. Smattering of POV ("While admittedly a bit of a braggart, Ebenn Q3 Baobab truly had every right to be so. It was often difficult for New Republic citizens to comprehend the fact that this larger-than-life personality was, in fact, an actual person.") Personality and Traits.
[19:06] Xwing328: Sourcing (Rule 11). No quotes (Rule 13). 2 redlinks (OK by Rule 8). No P&T (Rule 14).
[19:06] Ataru: No P&T. No sourcing.
[19:06] Ataru: No quotes
[19:06] LordHydronium: Oh yeah, lead quote
[19:07] The4dotelipsis: Remove.
[19:07] Ataru: Surely we could get one.
[19:07] Ataru: Remove
[19:07] LordHydronium: Remove.
[19:07] The4dotelipsis: As much as I like this kind of info.
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[19:07] The4dotelipsis: I mean, article.
[19:07] LordHydronium: Neptune votes Weak Remove.
[19:08] Ataru: 3 more.
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[19:08] Darth_Culator: Remove. Rule 2, 11, 13, 14.
[19:08] Ataru: 2 more
[19:08] Xwing328: are we still on Ebenn?
[19:08] Ataru: Yes.
[19:08] LordHydronium: yeah
[19:08] Ataru: Do you have a vote?
[19:08] Xwing328: Remove
[19:08] Xwing328: Already listed it b4 I dropped out
[19:08] Breathes|shower: I actually say keep pending sourcing and adding of quotes
[19:08] Ataru: I see.
[19:09] Ataru: With no P&T?
[19:09] The4dotelipsis: Yuhp.
[19:09] Ataru: Interesting.
[19:09] Xwing328: so 3 rules broken...tssk tssk
[19:09] Breathes|shower: whatever. I vote how I want.
[19:09] Xwing328: :)
[19:09] Ataru: Well, I need one more vote for removal or one for keep.
[19:09] Breathes|shower: I mean probationary keep. if that makes sense.
[19:09] Ataru: Havac? Imperialles?
[19:10] Havac: Remove. And how are you typing this from the shower?
[19:10] Xwing328: Breathes|shower - it doesn't get removed for two weeks, following another vote to see if it improved, if that helps
[19:10] Ataru: Article is removed by consensus. Next.
[19:10] Ataru: Carnor Jax
[19:10] LordHydronium: Sourcing. Some images need sourcing. "Though it is suspected that he, along with Kir Kanos, may be a clone grown from the same prime clone, possibly Jax's "father"" is based on a cut idea; remove it. Personality and Traits.
[19:10] Xwing328: Carnor Jax - Remove. Sourcing (Rule 11). Unsourced pics, quotes could be more accurately sourced, from specific issues (Rule 12). No P&T (Rule 14).
[19:10] Ataru: No P&T. No sourcing. Remove merchandise section
[19:11] The4dotelipsis: Per everyone else.
[19:11] Xwing328: yes, remove merchandise to SWMW as well
[19:11] Breathes|shower: remove. per everyone else.
[19:11] LordHydronium: Neptune says: "Remove. Sourcing, several unsourced pics."
[19:11] LordHydronium: Remove
[19:11] Ataru: Vote!
[19:11] Ataru: Remove
[19:12] Xwing328: we already did :P
[19:12] Ataru: I have 5, I think
[19:12] Ataru: 6
[19:12] Darth_Culator: Remove. Rule 11, 12, 14.
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[19:12] Ataru: Article removed unless two people want to speak up
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[19:12] Ataru: Next
[19:12] Xwing328: Hi Jaina
[19:13] JainaSolo: Hi Xwing328
[19:13] Ataru: Ossus!
[19:13] LordHydronium: Perfect in every way. :P
[19:13] Xwing328: Ossus - Keep. Minor inconsistencies between "linkable" titles of Appearances/Sources and Notes and references.
[19:13] Ataru: Keep
[19:13] LordHydronium: Keep.
[19:13] JainaSolo: Keep
[19:13] The4dotelipsis: Keep
[19:13] Breathes|shower: Keep
[19:13] Ataru: Anyone else want to vote? :-P
[19:13] Darth_Culator: Doesn't seem necessary.
[19:13] Ataru: Not that it matters!
[19:14] Ataru: Article kept.
[19:14] Ataru: Next.
[19:14] Xwing328: Brenn Tantor - Keep. Fix Personality to fit P&T (Rule 14).
[19:14] LordHydronium: Keep.
[19:14] Ataru: Remove sourcing from intro. POV. Capitalization issues.
[19:14] Ataru: Remove
[19:14] Breathes|shower: do we allow sourcing in section titles?
[19:14] LordHydronium: Neptune voted Keep for Ossus and Brenn, BTW.
[19:14] Ataru: Yes
[19:14] Xwing328: Yes, we do allow
[19:15] Ataru: That's at least 3 keeps.
[19:15] Breathes|shower: keep
[19:15] Breathes|shower: yeah
[19:15] JainaSolo: Keep
[19:15] Ataru: Okay. Article kept
[19:15] Ataru: Next.
[19:15] Xwing328: Rune Haako - Keep. File:R Haako.JPG and File:Fake haako.jpg are not sourced (Rule 12).
[19:15] Ataru: Rune Haako
[19:15] LordHydronium: Keep. Some images need sourcing.
[19:16] Ataru: Remove sourcing from intro. Photo caption and P&T contradict each other. Keep
[19:16] The4dotelipsis: Ermm.
[19:16] LordHydronium: Neptune votes keep.
[19:16] The4dotelipsis: Keep.
[19:16] The4dotelipsis: :P
[19:16] The4dotelipsis: But I'll try to adress these problems.
[19:16] Breathes|shower: keep
[19:16] Xwing328: sounds good
[19:16] Ataru: Article kept by consensus.
[19:16] Ataru: Next up
[19:16] * The4dotelipsis whispers under breath "Stupid Chee"
[19:16] Ataru: Nagai-Tof War
[19:16] Xwing328: Nagai-Tof War - Remove. Formatting (Rule 4). Sourcing (Rule 11). Unsourced pics and quote (Rule 12).
[19:16] LordHydronium: Sourcing. I'd like to see some mention of the Hiromi, but that may be a personal bias. :P
[19:16] Ataru: Sourcing.
[19:17] The4dotelipsis: Keep.
[19:17] Ataru: Keep
[19:17] The4dotelipsis: Brainwave!
[19:17] Xwing328: grr...that's 3 rules broken
[19:17] LordHydronium: Remove, but it doesn't matter.
[19:17] Breathes|shower: keep, tag for sourcing
[19:17] The4dotelipsis: When we say Keep, and we've got minor issues with it, we should alert the major author.
[19:17] The4dotelipsis: Directly.
[19:17] Darth_Culator: I want more Hiromi info.
[19:17] LordHydronium: I don't think sourcing is a minor issue, though.
[19:17] Darth_Culator: Lots more.
[19:17] Darth_Culator: HOORAY!
[19:17] Ataru: We decided not to do that a couple meetings ago, IIRC
[19:17] LordHydronium: Let's hear it for the glorious destiny of Culator!
[19:18] LordHydronium: YAAAAAAYYY!
[19:18] Ataru: Darth_Culator: Can you help Hobbes15 get in here via ircatwork?
[19:18] Ataru: Next
[19:18] Ataru: That's 3 keeps, so we're moving on
[19:18] Ataru: Death Star
[19:18] Xwing328: Death Star - Remove. Sourcing (Rule 11). Unsourced pics (Rule 12).
[19:18] LordHydronium: Sourcing.
[19:18] Ataru: Needs pic with intro. Present tense. Sourcing.
[19:18] * Ataru hates present tense in IU articles
[19:19] LordHydronium: Neptune sez: "Sourcing, a couple of unsourced pics. The BTS picture comparing the Death Star to that moon of Saturn is not explained in the text."
[19:19] The4dotelipsis: :S
[19:19] The4dotelipsis: Keep.
[19:19] Ataru: Remove
[19:19] LordHydronium: Remove.
[19:19] Breathes|shower: remove
[19:19] LordHydronium: Neptune votes remove.
[19:19] Ataru: Jaina? Darth_Culator?
[19:19] JainaSolo: Remove
[19:20] LordHydronium: One more needed.
[19:20] Darth_Culator: Hate to say it, but remove. Rule 12, and whatever rule covers a slight excess of interpretation.
[19:20] Ataru: Hmm. I need one more.
[19:20] Xwing328: Remove if you didn't count mine
[19:20] Ataru: Someone speak up or it's removed.
[19:20] Ataru: Removed.
[19:20] Ataru: Next up
[19:20] Ataru: JAR JAR!
[19:20] Xwing328: Jar Jar Binks - Weak remove. Sourcing (Rule 11).
[19:20] LordHydronium: Sourcing. Some info in the top of BtS should go under "Criticism" and "Bullsh-" sorry, "Alleged racism".
[19:20] The4dotelipsis: Remove.
[19:20] Ataru: Sourcing. Speculation "Skywalker appreciated his help" "wife" part is speculation. Maybe a little POV
[19:20] The4dotelipsis: Basically, the BTS is in a shit-load of trouble.
[19:20] The4dotelipsis: And I'm going to have to ax a lot of it.
[19:21] Ataru: What does Star say?
[19:21] Ataru: Remve
[19:21] Ataru: *Remove
[19:21] Ataru: Star says Weak remove
[19:21] LordHydronium: SN: "Weak remove. The only issue is sourcing."
[19:21] The4dotelipsis: Hopefully I can get it up to scratch.
[19:21] LordHydronium: Remove
[19:21] Breathes|shower: weak remove-sourcing, BtS
[19:21] Ataru: 5
[19:22] JainaSolo: Remove
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[19:22] Ataru: 6
[19:22] Ataru: hello
[19:22] Ataru: Anyone else?
[19:22] Ataru: Or am I counting wrong?
[19:22] Havac: Remove
[19:22] Ataru: We have 7
[19:22] Ataru: 8
[19:22] Darth_Culator: Yeah, what they said.
[19:22] Ataru: Article is removed
[19:22] Ataru: 9!
[19:22] Ataru: Hate on Jar Jar! :-P
[19:22] Ataru: Next!
[19:22] Ataru: Bria Tharen
[19:22] LordHydronium: Some POV in P/T ("It is, however, a testament to her inner strength").
[19:23] Ataru: Remove sourcing from intro
[19:23] The4dotelipsis: Keep
[19:23] Breathes|shower: better sectioning needed
[19:23] Ataru: Keep
[19:23] Darth_Culator: Bria has minor issues, but keepable.
[19:23] LordHydronium: Keep.
[19:23] The4dotelipsis: [Redacted by administration]
[19:23] Xwing328: unless more complaints come, keep
[19:23] LordHydronium: SN says keep.
[19:23] Breathes|shower: but... I think.... keep
[19:23] JainaSolo: Keep
[19:23] Ataru: a whole bunch of keeps to 1 remove.
[19:23] Ataru: Article is kept.
[19:23] Ataru: Next
[19:23] Havac: REMOVE, because someone must be the voice of hatred!
[19:23] The4dotelipsis: Hmm.
[19:23] Ataru: Nute Gunray
[19:23] LordHydronium: Sourcing.
[19:23] Xwing328: Nute Gunray - Weak remove. Sourcing (Rule 11).
[19:24] Breathes|shower: remove.
[19:24] Ataru: Sourcing. Sectioning.
[19:24] LordHydronium: Neptune says...well, exactly the same thing as X.
[19:24] Ataru: Remove
[19:24] The4dotelipsis: Say Remove, because that gives me the incentive to fix him up.
[19:24] Breathes|shower: excessive quoting, sourcing
[19:24] Xwing328: lol - where do you think I got it?
[19:24] Ataru: 4 so far
[19:24] LordHydronium: Remove
[19:24] Ataru: 5
[19:24] Ataru: Jaina? Culator?
[19:24] Ataru: Imp? Havac?
[19:24] The4dotelipsis: Hmm.
[19:25] JainaSolo: Remove
[19:25] Ataru: 6!
[19:25] The4dotelipsis: Will I be breaking 3 RR if I restore the "This is Impossible!" quote?
[19:25] Havac: Remove
[19:25] Xwing328: You could bribe one of us to do it 4dot
[19:25] The4dotelipsis: Well, the other guy's already broken it.
[19:25] Ataru: Article is removed
[19:25] The4dotelipsis: Yeah, one of you guys do it.
[19:25] Xwing328: BAN HIM! :P
[19:25] The4dotelipsis: On grounds of, it's a better quote.
[19:25] Ataru: Meh
[19:26] Ataru: Article is removed.
[19:26] Ataru: Next
[19:26] Ataru: Drovian
[19:26] The4dotelipsis: Remove.
[19:26] The4dotelipsis: I want a government section, dammit!
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[19:26] LordHydronium: Neptune says keep.
[19:26] Breathes|shower: Keep
[19:26] Ataru: Keep
[19:26] LordHydronium: Keep
[19:26] The4dotelipsis: Bah!
[19:26] Xwing328: Keep unless other objections
[19:27] Ataru: That's 4 keeps to 1 remove.
[19:27] Ataru: make that 5 keeps
[19:27] Ataru: Article is kept!
[19:27] Xwing328: That was fast, considering the slow start
[19:27] Ataru: Next item on the agenda
[19:27] Ataru: Final votes on various articles
[19:27] Ataru: First up
[19:27] Ataru: Jacen Solo
[19:27] LordHydronium: (Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jacen_Solo&diff=cur&oldid=1214424)http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jacen_Solo&diff=cur&oldid=1214424
[19:27] Ataru: (Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jacen_Solo&diff=cur&oldid=1214424)http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jacen_Solo&diff=cur&oldid=1214424
[19:27] Ataru: durn
[19:28] LordHydronium: OK, I'll leave it to you. :P
[19:28] Ataru: lol
[19:28] The4dotelipsis: Remove.
[19:28] The4dotelipsis: Sectioning is still shit.
[19:28] Ataru: # ectioning
[19:28] Ataru: # Speculation in childhood section
[19:28] Ataru: # Condensing, too much play-by-play, particularly: Trivia in Reunion section, abductions, 1st Corellian Insurrection, Vergere
[19:28] Ataru: # More detail on Vong war
[19:28] Ataru: # Certain prose issues, particularly in "Vergere" section
[19:28] Ataru: # Personality and Traits section.
[19:28] Ataru: That's what we said was wrong with it
[19:28] The4dotelipsis: Well, the sectioning is not fixed.
[19:28] The4dotelipsis: So, Darth Who, see you later.
[19:29] Ataru: No, it's not.
[19:29] Breathes|shower: hey guys
[19:29] Ataru: yes?
[19:29] Breathes|shower: now that we've finished the mian voting, i really need to go
[19:29] LordHydronium: The Vergere section is still ick.
[19:29] Ataru: okay
[19:29] Ataru: Later Breathes!
[19:29] Breathes|shower: I'm screwed for class this week... like really really screwed
[19:29] Breathes|shower: later!
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[19:29] Ataru: Interesting.
[19:29] Ataru: Ok, so vote on Jacen.
[19:29] The4dotelipsis: Remove
[19:29] Ataru: JainaSolo: No favoritism just because he's your bro! :-P
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[19:30] The4dotelipsis: Ben!
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[19:30] The4dotelipsis: Dagobah System!
[19:30] Ataru: lol
[19:30] Ataru: Vote to remove Jacen now!
[19:30] Ataru: remove
[19:30] JainaSolo: Ataru: lol
[19:30] JainaSolo: Remove
[19:30] Ataru: 3 . . .
[19:30] Ataru: Xwing328, LordHydronium, Cull_Tremayne, Darth_Culator,
[19:30] Cull_Tremayne: Die another Day! With a Vengeance!
[19:30] Ataru: StarNeptune
[19:30] Cull_Tremayne: Err... Remove?
[19:30] Ataru: Imperialles
[19:30] LordHydronium: Yeah, I'll go with remove. Once it's cleaned up, it can be renommed.
[19:31] Ataru: (Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jacen_Solo&diff=cur&oldid=1214424)http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jacen_Solo&diff=cur&oldid=1214424
[19:31] Darth_Culator: Remove.
[19:31] LordHydronium: Neptune said keep.
[19:31] Ataru: 6
[19:31] Ataru: 6 to 1
[19:31] Ataru: Xwing328?
[19:31] Cull_Tremayne: Wow, we're already to reassessments?
[19:31] Ataru: yep
[19:31] Ataru: I'll post summary at the end. Everything will make sense
[19:31] Ataru: Havac?
[19:31] Ataru: We need one more vote either way
[19:32] Havac: About what?
[19:32] Ataru: Voting to remove Jacen Solo.
[19:32] LordHydronium: Whether Jacen stays
[19:32] * The4dotelipsis clobbers Ataru over the head with an Inflatable Forklift.
[19:32] Ataru: Forever
[19:32] Havac: I'm really paying no attention here.
[19:32] Ataru: Bah!
[19:32] Havac: Remove.
[19:32] Ataru: Removed.
[19:32] Ataru: Next.
[19:32] The4dotelipsis: Good.
[19:32] Ataru: Mara Jade
[19:32] Ataru: (Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Mara_Jade_Skywalker&diff=cur&oldid=1214427)http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Mara_Jade_Skywalker&diff=cur&oldid=1214427
[19:32] LordHydronium: No sourcing. Remove.
[19:33] LordHydronium: And a bunch of other stuff.
[19:33] The4dotelipsis: Sorry Shannon.
[19:33] Ataru: We said * Sourcing. Quote and image sourcing.
[19:33] Ataru: * Minor formatting (e.g. section capitalization)
[19:33] Ataru: * More Allegiance detail. More detail on: 1st and 2nd Corellian Insurrections, Vong war, Hand of Thrawn.
[19:33] Ataru: * Choice of images for Allegiance.
[19:33] The4dotelipsis: You're well equipped, but obviously not enough to source yourself.
[19:33] Ataru: * Cleanup of Dark Nest.
[19:33] Ataru: * Poor writing in personality and Traits section.
[19:33] Ataru: * POV (e.g. "Mara was a witty character")
[19:33] Ataru: * BTS largely speculation, remove products section, remove Mary Sue statements.
[19:33] Ataru: * "Mara's ships" either goes entirely or gets expanded.
[19:33] Cull_Tremayne: Let's skip the next five. Since nothing was done.
[19:33] Ataru: Very little was done
[19:33] Ataru: Nothing was?
[19:33] Ataru: Vote on Mara.
[19:33] Ataru: Remove
[19:34] Darth_Culator: Remove.
[19:34] The4dotelipsis: Bahlete
[19:34] Cull_Tremayne: For the next five following Mara.
[19:34] Cull_Tremayne: Remove for Mara.
[19:34] LordHydronium: Remove on Mara, and everything up to Asajj. Haven't looked past that yet.
[19:34] JainaSolo: Remove
[19:34] Ataru: That's 5
[19:34] Ataru: *6
[19:35] Cull_Tremayne: Remove for Clone Wars as well, stuff was just moved around and the list removed. No sourcing done.
[19:35] Ataru: Havac?
[19:35] The4dotelipsis: Erm.
[19:35] The4dotelipsis: For the record, I say remove on every single one.
[19:35] The4dotelipsis: Just in case you miss me one one.
[19:35] Havac: I'm voting remove on everything.
[19:35] Ataru: Okay
[19:35] Ataru: It's removed
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[19:35] LordHydronium: Yeah, death to Clone Wars for the sourcing.
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[19:35] Ataru: Nothing done on Freedon Nadd.
[19:35] Xwing328|FOOD: bloody hell again
[19:35] Cull_Tremayne: No sourcing for Ferus as well.
[19:35] Ataru: I'm assuming remove?
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[19:36] LordHydronium: No sourcing on Ferus, nothing done to Tahiri; klill both
[19:36] Cull_Tremayne: Same with Tahiri.
[19:36] Ataru: One at a time
[19:36] LordHydronium: Or kill them, even
[19:36] Ataru: ONE AT A TIME
[19:36] Cull_Tremayne: Why? Nothing was done on these.
[19:36] Ataru: Nadd removed
[19:36] Xwing328: link to one?
[19:36] Cull_Tremayne: Vote to remove all the rest?
[19:36] LordHydronium: Aye.
[19:36] Ataru: Ok
[19:36] Ataru: Maul removed
[19:37] Ataru: Plo Koon removed
[19:37] Xwing328: assuming nothing's been done
[19:37] Ataru: 2nd Imperium removed
[19:37] Ataru: If nothing's been done, it's removed
[19:37] Cull_Tremayne: No sourcing, and very little done, except for on Ferus, and that's a mess in itself.
[19:37] Ataru: How about Asajj?
[19:37] Cull_Tremayne: Nada.
[19:37] Ataru: Remove
[19:37] LordHydronium: Nothing substantial.
[19:37] LordHydronium: Remove.
[19:37] Ataru: Asajj removed, I think.
[19:38] Ataru: Clone Wars
[19:38] LordHydronium: remove
[19:38] Ataru: Remove
[19:38] Ataru: 4dot and Havac vote remove
[19:38] Darth_Culator: Kill.
[19:38] Ataru: that's 5
[19:38] Ataru: What does Star say?
[19:38] LordHydronium: remove
[19:38] Ataru: That's 6
[19:39] LordHydronium: Cull said above to remove all
[19:39] Ataru: oh
[19:39] Cull_Tremayne: Damn, never got around to sourcing Jax and N-T War bummer. :-{
[19:39] Ataru: 7 then
[19:39] LordHydronium: Cull: 2 weeks!
[19:39] Ataru: Removed
[19:39] Ataru: Next
[19:39] Ataru: Ferus
[19:39] LordHydronium: Remove.
[19:39] Ataru: If you notice, Hobbes154 is here.
[19:39] Ataru: He's been working on it.
[19:39] Ataru: I say give him another week
[19:39] Ataru: He started what, three days ago?
[19:40] The4dotelipsis: Too bad!
[19:40] Xwing328: Cruelty
[19:40] Ataru: hmm, okay
[19:40] Ataru: remove
[19:40] Cull_Tremayne: Sorry, no freebees.
[19:40] The4dotelipsis: Although kudos for the removal of that "crimson bladed lightsaber!"
[19:40] Darth_Culator: We don't have any provision for extending the probation period.
[19:40] Ataru: and especially "Jedi padawan vs. Sith wannabe"
[19:40] Ataru: True
[19:40] Xwing328: Hey, I'd give him a chance....but whatever
[19:40] The4dotelipsis: I was tempted to put the whole article up for VFD just for that.
[19:40] Darth_Culator: So, remove.
[19:40] LordHydronium: Once it's improved, it can be renommed.
[19:40] Cull_Tremayne: He can be the first one to bring back an FA.
[19:40] Ataru: Very true
[19:40] The4dotelipsis: Yes.
[19:40] Darth_Culator: That would be neat.
[19:40] The4dotelipsis: Jolly for him.
[19:40] Xwing328: yes
[19:40] LordHydronium: But it has no sourcing right now, for one thing
[19:40] Xwing328: get a cookiee for that maybe too :P
[19:41] Ataru: Article removed. Keep up the good work Hobbes154, and we'll see Ferus on the nom page in a tick.
[19:41] Ataru: Next
[19:41] The4dotelipsis: Yeah...
[19:41] Ataru: Tahiri
[19:41] LordHydronium: Nada to Tahiri, remove.
[19:41] Ataru: Remove
[19:41] The4dotelipsis: Ferus seems to be everywhere.
[19:41] Ataru: I have 5 removes on Tahiri
[19:41] Ataru: Jaina?
[19:41] Ataru: Culator?
[19:41] Ataru: Xwing?
[19:41] JainaSolo: Remove
[19:41] Xwing328: Remove...
[19:42] Darth_Culator: Minimal improvement. Remove.
[19:42] Ataru: Okay
[19:42] Ataru: Removed
[19:42] Ataru: Next item on the agenda.
[19:42] Ataru: How are we going to run subsequent meetings?
[19:42] Cull_Tremayne: Further meetings...
[19:42] Ataru: How often?
[19:42] Ataru: How many articles?
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[19:42] LordHydronium: Well, we still need to vote on the previous two probation rounds in the upcoming weeks.
[19:42] The4dotelipsis: I refuse to Inq an article still on the queue.
[19:42] Xwing328: How many more articles do we have?
[19:42] Cull_Tremayne: We should probably run two more weekly meetings, just to make sure we go over the probationary FAs.
[19:43] Cull_Tremayne: Xwing: None.
[19:43] Xwing328: k
[19:43] Ataru: None not on the queue, IIRC
[19:43] Xwing328: than at least 2 more to finish off the probations, yes
[19:43] Ataru: Okay, so two more weekly meetings.
[19:43] LordHydronium: And we'll just be doing probations, then?
[19:43] Ataru: I think so
[19:43] Cull_Tremayne: Should go quick. :-P
[19:43] Ataru: We won't have any others to do.
[19:44] Ataru: After that, we may move to monthly meetings or whatever
[19:44] Cull_Tremayne: We can talk about further meetings in the next two meetings. :-P
[19:44] Ataru: Okay.
[19:44] Ataru: Next up
[19:44] Ataru: FA noms
[19:44] The4dotelipsis: Noms!
[19:44] Ataru: Vote to remove HK?
[19:44] Cull_Tremayne: "Rock us Dukakus!"
[19:44] LordHydronium: I've been lazy, but I'll read the new ones this weekend.
[19:44] The4dotelipsis: HK?
[19:44] The4dotelipsis: Yeah, it's been there for ages.
[19:44] The4dotelipsis: And no sign of progress.
[19:44] Ataru: HK-47 nom.
[19:44] Cull_Tremayne: Is anyone moving to source him? Then he should be gone.
[19:45] Ataru: Not much progress. Remove
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[19:45] Ataru: I see 3 removes
[19:45] Ataru: Anyone else?
[19:45] LordHydronium: HK seems to have hit a standstill.
[19:45] Darth_Culator: +1
[19:45] LordHydronium: Sure, why not
[19:45] Ataru: 5
[19:45] Xwing328: sure
[19:45] Ataru: 6
[19:45] Ataru: Jaina?
[19:45] Cull_Tremayne: Have to say Remove. No one's bothering to source him, and he's the last article to "not fall under the new rules" Remove.
[19:45] JainaSolo: Remove
[19:46] Ataru: 7
[19:46] Ataru: Nom removed
[19:46] Ataru: Haunted Village. Hrm
[19:46] The4dotelipsis: Out.
[19:46] The4dotelipsis: No signs of improvement.
[19:46] The4dotelipsis: For ages.
[19:46] The4dotelipsis: The plot summary is a disgrace.
[19:46] Xwing328: bye bye to it
[19:46] Ataru: Eyrezer isn't here to defend it so . . .
[19:46] Ataru: remove
[19:46] Ataru: 3 . . .
[19:47] Ataru: Cull_Tremayne?
[19:47] Ataru: Darth_Culator?
[19:47] LordHydronium: At that rate of votes, it's probably not going anywhere
[19:47] Ataru: JainaSolo?
[19:47] LordHydronium: Sure
[19:47] Cull_Tremayne: Eh. It was brought up February 20th. Remove.
[19:47] Ataru: LordHydronium?
[19:47] Darth_Culator: Baleete.
[19:47] Ataru: 6
[19:47] Ataru: Havac?
[19:47] Ataru: Anyone else?
[19:47] JainaSolo: Remove
[19:47] Ataru: 7
[19:47] Ataru: nom removed
[19:48] Ataru: Next up: Carth
[19:48] The4dotelipsis: Keep.
[19:48] Ataru: Carth is pretty god
[19:48] The4dotelipsis: It's fairly recent.
[19:48] Ataru: *good
[19:48] Ataru: Remember, we can also vote to approve noms here.
[19:48] LordHydronium: Keep, but Imp needs to find the damn rule that lets him object on the grounds of specific references.
[19:48] Ataru: In this case, that may be in order
[19:48] Cull_Tremayne: I think people are misunderstanding what sourcing is. Sourcing everything from the NEC isn't sourcing.
[19:48] The4dotelipsis: Sure it is.
[19:48] The4dotelipsis: ;)
[19:48] Ataru: Carth is barely in NEC>
[19:48] The4dotelipsis: Oh, right.
[19:48] Xwing328: only if everything sourced really is in NEC
[19:49] Ataru: And NEC is pretty much awesome.
[19:49] The4dotelipsis: Why don't they just use KOTOR?
[19:49] Ataru: I dunno.
[19:49] The4dotelipsis: Easy.
[19:49] Cull_Tremayne: Well since Selkath was obviously just making up information...
[19:49] Ataru: Inq page needs some votes or someting
[19:49] Xwing328: then tell me what to vote on
[19:49] Ataru: (Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Inq:Carth_Onasi&t=20070331034506)http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Inq:Carth_Onasi&t=20070331034506
[19:49] Xwing328: :P
[19:50] Ataru: I guess this would be a vote for approval
[19:50] Ataru: I'm not going to put too many up for removal- they're all recent and in progress
[19:50] The4dotelipsis: No.
[19:50] The4dotelipsis: But do lets talk about them.
[19:50] Ataru: Basically, unless there's a nom someone wants to remove.
[19:50] Ataru: I'm fine with Carth
[19:50] Cull_Tremayne: Remove Human.
[19:50] The4dotelipsis: Oxygen and Human are tempting.
[19:50] Ataru: Yes, remove Human
[19:50] Xwing328: At a very quick glance, approve Carth
[19:51] The4dotelipsis: But effort is actually being made with Human.
[19:51] The4dotelipsis: Sourcing is in progesst.
[19:51] Ataru: Well fine.
[19:51] The4dotelipsis: *progess.
[19:51] Ataru: If Sourcing is in progress, then keep it
[19:51] Darth_Culator: We should probably kill oxygen.
[19:51] Ataru: And Sio Bibble
[19:51] Cull_Tremayne: Fine, remove Oxygen. :-P
[19:51] Darth_Culator: Unlike Jon, that was a WP:POINT violation.
[19:51] The4dotelipsis: Eh?
[19:51] Xwing328: kill oxygen, despite improvement
[19:51] Ataru: Remove Oxygen
[19:51] The4dotelipsis: Sio Bibble is totally within the rules at the moment.
[19:51] LordHydronium: Yeah, definitely remove oxygen
[19:51] Darth_Culator: Bibble can stay.
[19:51] Xwing328: Bibble seems fine, yeah
[19:51] Cull_Tremayne: It's not under 1000? Eh.
[19:51] Ataru: Bah!
[19:51] Darth_Culator: Mainly because I love his name so damn much.
[19:51] Ataru: 1000 word limit violated!
[19:52] LordHydronium: Bibble can stay, even if I don't vote for it. :P
[19:52] Ataru: I won't vote for it.
[19:52] The4dotelipsis: 1000 Word limit is not policy.
[19:52] The4dotelipsis: And I'll expand him.
[19:52] Darth_Culator: Yet.
[19:52] The4dotelipsis: Soon.
[19:52] Ataru: At least not until that new policy gets implemented
[19:52] The4dotelipsis: Plus.
[19:52] The4dotelipsis: He's Oliver Ford Davies.
[19:52] LordHydronium: Which is why nobody's officially objecting yet.
[19:52] Ataru: Okay, so vote to remove Oxygen is . . .
[19:52] The4dotelipsis: And he has a kick ass beard.
[19:52] Darth_Culator: Remove oxygen!
[19:52] Xwing328: Remove
[19:52] The4dotelipsis: Anyone wanna talk about Burl?
[19:52] LordHydronium: Oxygen should have been removed before it went up
[19:52] * Darth_Culator asphyxiates.
[19:52] The4dotelipsis: :P
[19:52] Darth_Culator: Maybe that was a bad idea.
[19:52] Ataru: I have 5 to remove oxygen
[19:52] Xwing328: I want more info on Burl's SW stuff!
[19:53] Ataru: 6
[19:53] Cull_Tremayne: I ended with "eh". That should be enough to say that it wasn't a formal objection. :-P
[19:53] Xwing328: Anyone with caravan do it now!
[19:53] Ataru: Per Xwing
[19:53] The4dotelipsis: I've added more information on Burl's stuff.
[19:53] Ataru: I still only have 6 to remove Oxygen
[19:53] Xwing328: orly?
[19:53] The4dotelipsis: Sorry, Caravan of Courage info.
[19:53] * Xwing328 goes to look
[19:53] Ataru: JainaSolo? Imperialles?
[19:53] Darth_Culator: There's not much info to be had outside the realm of (dramatic sting) Original Research.
[19:53] The4dotelipsis: And I'm going to upload a .ogg file of his narration.
[19:53] Ataru: He did add some
[19:53] * Ataru is still waiting on the oxygen vote
[19:53] The4dotelipsis: That's all I can add.
[19:53] LordHydronium: Incidentally, people who make objections: Strike them out when they're filled!
[19:53] JainaSolo: Remove
[19:53] The4dotelipsis: Remove oxygen.
[19:53] The4dotelipsis: But if someone did it properly, I would support it.
[19:53] Ataru: I have 7 now :-)
[19:54] Ataru: Nom removed
[19:54] Xwing328: 4dot - is a quote possible from Burl's narration?
[19:54] The4dotelipsis: Jaymach and Evil Doll's objections for Burl Ives are not legit.
[19:54] The4dotelipsis: Xwing328: I'm going to do that as soon as this is all over.
[19:54] LordHydronium: Jaymach's is a legit objection, but it's factually incorrect
[19:54] Xwing328: ok
[19:54] Ataru: I'll strike Evir's in a minute, I think
[19:54] The4dotelipsis: Jaymach's does not apply to Burl.
[19:54] The4dotelipsis: He doesn't have "Official sources"
[19:55] LordHydronium: Sure he does. They're not LFL official, though. :P
[19:55] The4dotelipsis: So what?
[19:55] LordHydronium: I mean, you didn't get your info from speculation
[19:55] Xwing328: We should bug LFL to get some info about him :P
[19:55] LordHydronium: I'm saying that's fine, 4dot.
[19:55] The4dotelipsis: You can't apply the same blanket policies to a different type of article.
[19:55] The4dotelipsis: Oh, OK.
[19:55] Ataru: I can see Chee rolling his eyes now
[19:55] The4dotelipsis: Chee can roll his eyes all he wants.
[19:55] The4dotelipsis: He's a madman.
[19:55] LordHydronium: All that that item means is that the info must be officially verifiable.
[19:55] Cull_Tremayne: Chee has eyes?
[19:55] Ataru: Okay, so basically on Burl- there's two CTs relevant to us
[19:55] LordHydronium: And your info is, since you cite it
[19:56] Ataru: (Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Additional_FA_rule_suggestion&t=20070407221101)http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Additional_FA_rule_suggestion&t=20070407221101
[19:56] The4dotelipsis: So Jaymach can be struck.
[19:56] The4dotelipsis: Again.
[19:56] Ataru: (Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:FA_reform_proposal&t=20070407220710)http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:FA_reform_proposal&t=20070407220710
[19:56] Ataru: No, I don't think he can
[19:56] The4dotelipsis: Btw, KEJ's proposed policy would not affect Burl Ives in any way shape or form.
[19:56] Ataru: Our rules don't allow us to strike rules-based objections
[19:56] The4dotelipsis: It's the 3rd option that would damage Burl.
[19:56] Ataru: Even incorrect ones
[19:56] The4dotelipsis: It's not rules based.
[19:56] Ataru: (Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Real-world_biographies&t=20070407113729)http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Real-world_biographies&t=20070407113729
[19:56] Xwing328: GA prereq. is the only real close call right now
[19:56] Ataru: Yes, it is
[19:57] LordHydronium: Yes, it is, it's just factually incorrect.
[19:57] The4dotelipsis: Bah!
[19:57] LordHydronium: He's making an objection to something that's satisfied
[19:57] The4dotelipsis: We'll just ignore it then.
[19:57] Ataru: Official sources is a rule. It's just factually incorrect. No strike
[19:57] Ataru: Bah!
[19:57] LordHydronium: Do we have any rules on that?
[19:57] Ataru: Of course, if he's as stubborn as usual . .
[19:57] Ataru: LH: No.
[19:57] The4dotelipsis: (Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Real-world_biographies&t=20070407113729)http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Real-world_biographies&t=20070407113729 - We will soon.
[19:57] The4dotelipsis: Maybe.
[19:57] Ataru: Only if he's absent for awhile
[19:57] LordHydronium: So if I wanted to block a fully referenced article by saying "It's not referenced", nothing could stop me?
[19:57] Ataru: (Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Renomination_of_featured_articles_%28again%29&t=20070407221238)http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Renomination_of_featured_articles_%28again%29&t=20070407221238
[19:57] LordHydronium: [Redacted by administration]
[19:58] Ataru: LH: Yes, it is, but no it isn't.
[19:58] Ataru: because "POV" is hard to define.
[19:58] Ataru: I could disagree with someone's definition of POV.
[19:58] LordHydronium: Sure it is. People shouldn't be able to object based on a lie.
[19:58] Cull_Tremayne: Hey, who was that Jedi priest in Union?
[19:58] Ataru: That way, we're prevented from striking objections.
[19:58] The4dotelipsis: He's just being obstructionist.
[19:58] Ataru: That he is
[19:58] The4dotelipsis: He doesn't want to see us broaden our scope.
[19:58] LordHydronium: POV is opinion, though. Verifiable info is objective.
[19:58] Xwing328: That one's good to close, the renomination one
[19:58] The4dotelipsis: LH is right.
[19:59] Ataru: Yeah, it's been two weeks.
[19:59] * Xwing328 is going to close it now. 2 weeks is up
[19:59] Cull_Tremayne: Anyway, I want a closer eye put on Shaelas or whatever his name is. That NEC thing kinda scares me. Where was it from? Oh just put NEC.
[19:59] Ataru: Let's close that thread.
[19:59] Ataru: Hmm. Okay.
[19:59] Ataru: Thanks for the heads-up.
[19:59] LordHydronium: If I wanted to and I were a dick, I could just make up any old crap and object to it if I didn't like an article.
[19:59] Ataru: Is there any other business before this body?
[19:59] LordHydronium: "Mount Sorrow? Sorry, it, er, doesn't have any images."
[20:00] Ataru: If not, I'll post the summary in a minute or two. Unless someone else wants to.
[20:00] Cull_Tremayne: We need to make sure that people don't put made up crap into the articles and then source them with a big book.
[20:00] Ataru: Nothing wrong with sourcing from a reference book.
[20:00] Ataru: Nothing against it
[20:00] The4dotelipsis: No official Inq business, I would just like some opinions of people here before you all leave.
[20:00] Ataru: As long as its in the big book
[20:00] The4dotelipsis: It's not.
[20:00] The4dotelipsis: That's the issue.
[20:00] Ataru: Right
[20:00] The4dotelipsis: Anyway...