Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting 49

Well, another Tax Day is upon us. And aside from freebie deals at McDonalds, it means Inqmoot 49 is here. So make sure to have your W-2 forms filled out and handed in by Saturday, April 21 at 8 PM ET in North America...or we'll come getcha. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:53, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

The audit

Last year's earnings

Debtors

• Garik Loran (diff • review) - probation extended from Meeting 47
• Darth Malak (diff • review)
• Bal'demnic (diff • review)
• Janus Greejatus (diff • review)
• Ranulph Tarkin (diff • review)
• 500 Republica (diff • review)
• Lorn Pavan (diff • review)
• Yinchorri (diff • review)
• Sun Guard (diff • review)
• Chamma (diff • review)
• Sio Bibble (diff • review)
• Peppi Bow (diff • review)
• Mar Tuuk (diff • review)
• Faro Argyus (diff • review)
• Bolla Ropal (diff • review)
• CC-5869 (diff • review)
• Cad Bane (diff • review)
• Noab Hulis (diff • review)
• Darth Bandon (diff • review)
• Berooken (diff • review)
• Jace Malcom (diff • review)
• Sacking of Coruscant (diff • review)
• Blockade of the Hydian Way (diff • review)
• Battle of Alderaan (Great Galactic War) (diff • review)
• Hylo Visz (diff • review)
  • Oh, I've removed the inuse tag from this article because I've been searching for quite a while and I can't find a damn thing about Hylo being in the game. I'll continue looking, but for now I there's no solid information online and I've not found anything within TOR. If anyone can tell me otherwise, I'd very much appreciate it. Darth Trayus^{(Trayus Academy)} 08:54, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
    • I can't find her anywhere in the Codex, placeables list, mission stages list, area names list, or item list (aside from the sidearm you already mention). Curiously, she does show up in the NPC list, but I haven't the faintest idea why, since there don't seem to be any dialogue filenames with her name on them. Potentially cut content, potentially planned expansion, no way to judge. I think you've gone as far as is reasonably possible. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 05:52, April 19, 2012 (UTC)
• Mission to Yavin 4 (diff • review)
  • Unfortunately it looks like I may have to ask for an extension on some of my articles. I've completely updated Mission to Yavin 4, Battle of Alderaan, and Berooken, and I'm nearly done with the Blockade of the Hydian Way. However, I've yet to get any information back from a user who owns Lego TCW, and as such I've not yet been able to update Peppi and Bolla. The Sacking of Coruscant, Hylo Visz, and Jace Malcom are all works in progress that have stalled due to the amount of TOR I have to play through to get all the information. I have lists of in-game info for all three articles, and I'll ideally have them all completed within a week or two after the meeting, but recent real-life events have prevented me from getting to them over these past several weeks. If y'all can grant an extension on the several that aren't yet done, I'd be very appreciative. I've not asked for an extension on any of these before, so I'm not sure if this is where I should put in the request... Darth Trayus^{(Trayus Academy)} 08:52, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
    • It sounds like you're actively working through TOR to get all the info, so I'd personally be OK with granting extensions. For Peppi and Bolla, you probably already know this, but keep in mind that it's specifically the DS and PSP versions from which you need info. Menkooroo 23:35, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
• Battle of Foerost (Great Sith War) (diff • review)
  • I've been going over the French RPG scenario that prompted this probe using Google Translate and a nice OCR program that Nayayen discovered recently, and there's quite a bit to it, and it's kinda weird. I'm not entirely certain how we want to handle this one, and it may warrant an extension. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 05:52, April 19, 2012 (UTC)
• Battle of Kiros (diff • review)

Capital expenditures

Expand as needed. FA maintenance page for reference.

• Great Manifest Period - the release of Essential Guide to Warfare has apparently done some significant rearranging of dates that greatly affect this article, per this edit. I can't speak for any of these changes, but something further needs adding or changing here. The sourcing needs to be updated/amended and/or some kind of BTS note needs to be provided explaining whatever change or discrepancy there is between EGTW and the Atlas. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:38, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
  • For the sake of this article, and for most of the articles on the FA maintenance page, it should be noted that Warfare will still be less than a month old at the time of this meeting. Menkooroo 19:30, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
    • Indeed, it should. I would still like us to make note of this and whatever else may be officially judged for future reference, lest it be forgotten in another month. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:33, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
      • Even though this is after the meeting, I have rectified this situation. I'm posting it here for official documentation of this. I have also, as a result, fixed a few GAs that needed tweaking because of date issues. — Fiolli; 23:03, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
• Sabé - This recent change raises an interesting issue regarding the canonicity of the events in the Episode I video game surrounding Obi-Wan and Sabe's escape from Theed, which the original, FA version of this article wrote off as non-canon, and which this editor seems to dispute. From what I remember of the game, I think I agree with this editor, that there's no reason to necessarily treat this material as non-canon. I believe this can and should be safely worked into the film narrative within the biography. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:20, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
• Here's a list of articles from the Maintenance Page's "Featured articles in need of updating" list that need updates from something more than a month old:
  • Sun Guard - Darth Plagueis update needed
  • Marn Hierogryph - Knights of the Old Republic: War 3 update
  • Mara Jade Skywalker - Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse update
  • Manaan - Dawn of the Jedi: Force Storm 1
  • Romeo Treblanc - Darth Plagueis update needed
  • Kharys - Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side update
  • Seha Dorvald - Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse
  • XoXaan - TOR and Book of Sith
  • Ganner Rhysode - Apocalypse
  • Rukil - TOR
• Everything else on the list needs updates from something less than a month old or else is already on probation. Menkooroo 23:35, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

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• I move to dissolve the Redux page. We pay very little attention to it, and when something that's supposed to be a Featured article sits on it gathering dust for months and months at a time (fourteen of them in the case of Battle of Borleias (Yuuzhan Vong War)) with a template at the top that essentially says "This Featured article may not actually be all that great," the Inquisitorius looks bad, and all of Wookieepedia looks bad. If we feel that a probationary FA needs further review, we could do something such as extend the probation for another month, note what the major changes are, and make it the primary focus of the next meeting; this is one just one idea that I believe is far preferable to our current policy of shunting the articles to the redux page where we can forget about them and hope that somebody else deals with them. If we do dissolve it, we can go through the page article-by-article and decide what to keep, what to remove, and of what to extend the probation for another month. If we don't dissolve it, then realistically, nothing is going to change. The Redux page has become a huge burden that we almost completely ignore, and keeping it isn't necessary for the purposes of reviewing FAs in need. Menkooroo 14:55, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
• I've never done this before and will probably never do this again, but I'm going to preemptively move to grant a blanket extension to anything that needs info from LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars (Peppi Bow, Mar Tuuk, Faro Argyus, Bolla Ropal). There has apparently been some difficulty getting info from the game and I don't think the articles deserve to die because of one stupid appearance in one really stupid game. I'm also open to granting an extension to all of Trayus's remaining TOR articles (Jace Malcom, Sacking of Coruscant, Blockade of the Hydian Way; the others are done) because TOR is freaking huge, but the outstanding non-Trayus TOR articles (Chamma, Noab Hulis) don't seem to have anyone who cares about them. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 20:00, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Attendance

Creditors

1. Should be there. 1358 ^(Talk) 09:53, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
2. Looking likely. Jonjedigrandmaster ^(Talk) 20:09, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
3. Looks good for now. IFYLOFD ^{(Floyd's crib)} 20:52, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
4. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:06, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
5. This may be the last meeting I get to attend for a while, but I'll be at this one. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 01:14, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
6. CC7567 ^(talk) 07:24, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
7. Menkooroo 20:26, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Dependents

1. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 15:37, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Exemptions

Minutes

• Log

Attendance

• Cal Jedi
• Cavalier One
• CC7567
• Darth Culator
• Green tentacle
• Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing
• Jonjedigrandmaster
• Menkooroo
• Tommy9281
• Toprawa and Ralltiir
• Xd1358

Old articles

Probed articles that maintained their FA status

• Darth Malak
• Bal'demnic
• Ranulph Tarkin
• 500 Republica
• Lorn Pavan
• Yinchorri
• CC-5869
• Cad Bane
• Darth Bandon
• Berooken
• Battle of Alderaan
• Hylo Visz
• Mission to Yavin 4
• Battle of Kiros

Probed articles that lost their FA status

• Garik Loran
• Chamma
• Noab Hulis

Articles that had their probation extended until next meeting

• Janus Greejatus
• Sun Guard
• Sio Bibble
• Peppi Bow
• Mar Tuuk
• Faro Argyus
• Bolla Ropal
• Jace Malcom
• Sacking of Coruscant
• Blockade of the Hydian Way
• Battle of Foerost (Great Sith War)

New articles

Probed

• Sabé
• Marn Hierogryph
• Manaan
• Romeo Treblanc
• Kharys
• Rukil

Spared

• XoXaan
• Ganner Rhysode

Other stuff

• Grunny is on paperwork. Floyd will schedule the next meeting.
• Cal Jedi appointed to the Inquisitorius.
• A CT will be started in order to move the Redux articles to the FAN.