Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Vizam

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Vizam

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:50, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Finally the time has come for the return of my first film character nomination

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 15:06, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Fan26 (Talk) 20:36, April 2, 2019 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 18:28, April 12, 2019 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:44, May 4, 2019 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Exiled Jedi (talk) 14:21, May 5, 2019 (UTC)

Object

Anil
  • I believe the word "rebel" is not capitalized in canon.
  • Missing permanent archival link.
    • Huh, really should have caught that. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:22, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
  • If Vizam is indeed male Category:Individuals of unspecified gender should be replaced with Category:Males.
    • Ah oops, that's a hold over from the original version before it was deleted. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:22, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
  • Throne and prisoner in the Biography section, gunner in "Peril at the pit," and clothing in the Equipment section can be linked.
    • Done, although to be honest minor linking like this really seems like a sofixit. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:22, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
  • The capitalization of "the princess" is not consistant in the article. I think I'd suggest not capitalizing it.
  • Duplicate laser cannon links.
  • Do you think it would be fair to add Category:Hutt Cartel individuals and/or Category:Desilijic servants? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 12:54, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
    • Since no source directly links him to the full cartel, just Jabba, I don't think the cartel is appropriate. I've always hated Desilijic servants, it seems like it was basically meant to just hold all of the Jabba's palace characters but isn't really appropriately titled to hold any of them. No source describes Vizam as anything close to a servant. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:22, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
Spooky
  • Did some looking around and found that he was portrayed by Paul Weston, who also appeared as Vedain in ROTJ. Either one of those links confirms both, but I do think that should be added to the BTS.User:Spookywilloww/Sig2 18:39, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
    • This was brought up in the original nomination, but Paul Weston has confirmed in interviews that he only portrayed Vedain and was then injured before he could portray any other characters, meaning those sources are incorrect. Ayrehead02 (talk) 19:57, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
      • Ah, gotcha thanks.User:Spookywilloww/Sig2 20:53, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
Fan26
  • >Do you think it would be worth it to move the image in the BtS to the PT and add an image of the complete locations dopplegangers? Fan26 (Talk) 14:02, April 2, 2019 (UTC)
    • The BTS image hasn't been used in any canon source and so can only be used as a BTS image. The dopplegangers are also to widely spread across a double page image to really include together. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:53, April 2, 2019 (UTC)
Tommy
  • Please correct the order of image modifiers (eg thumb|left|200px|caption).
  • "for failing to pay Jabba credits he owed the Hutt" I feel this could be simplified.
  • I think Jabba Desilijic Tiure's criminal empire should be mentioned in the intro, and perhaps earlier in the body.
  • "who was being held captive by Jabba while frozen in a block of carbonite for not paying Jabba a sum of credits he owed the Hutt" same issue here. Also the repetition of Jabba is odd. Please reword and simplify. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 20:56, April 2, 2019 (UTC)
    • Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:32, April 2, 2019 (UTC)
      • You haven't actually changed the sentence so it flows better, only the choice of noun. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 14:59, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
        • How's it look now? Ayrehead02 (talk) 15:17, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
          • You haven't changed anything relevant to this. You reworded the intro again but this specific objection was focused on the body. "The princess hoped to free the smuggler Han Solo, another rebel, who was being held captive by Jabba while frozen in a block of carbonite for not paying Jabba a debt he owed the Hutt." This isn't a difficult objection. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 17:44, April 5, 2019 (UTC)
            • Sorry, got the two debt owed objections mixed up. How about now? Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:25, April 5, 2019 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • In articles this brief, it's unnecessary and typically redundant to repeat species and/or sex between the Biography and P/T. Just pick one and present the information there. Personally, I prefer to employ the P/T, since the information would be repeated in such short order between the intro and beginning of the Bio.
  • We should be doing our best to avoid entire paragraphs where the article subject isn't even mentioned. Case in point, the second "Plot by a princess" paragraph. If there's no indication that Vizam witnessed the initial arrival of Leia and her exchange with Jabba as Boushh, it would seem to me that you could probably merge that paragraph with the first paragraph of the following section, where Vizam once again comes into play. A little excision of details there would be best. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:42, May 2, 2019 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 14:24, May 5, 2019 (UTC)


  • I've included the complete locations section at the end of the BTS since I spent ages puzzling over which one was Vizam, however, if people think those lines are unnecessary then I'm happy to just remove them. Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:50, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
  • Why is this nomination page located here, as there is no Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Vizam? TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:59, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
    • Huh, I didn't think we'd deleted the original nomination. Moved accordingly. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:22, March 31, 2019 (UTC)