- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
Unidentified Queen of Naboo (New Republic)
- Nominated by: LelalMekha (talk) 21:13, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: In the framework of the ongoing politics Barn-Burner.
(3 ACs/4 Users/7 Total)
Support
- Excellent job. Stake black msg 22:27, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 01:44, December 31, 2012 (UTC)- Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 14:42, December 31, 2012 (UTC) - Long live the Queen! Corellian Premier
The Force will be with you always 22:52, December 31, 2012 (UTC) - Winterz (talk) 02:24, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 14:27, January 8, 2013 (UTC)- CC7567 (talk) 23:15, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
Object
- That's pretty awesome Lelal. I have a couple of remarks.
Way too many links, it's looking a bit polluted.- Sorry to interject, but I'd like to point out that lots of links is a good thing. According to the Manual of Style, everything (that is applicable to the situation) should be linked once in the infobox, once upon its first mention in the intro, and once upon its first mention in the body. Provided the article is not double linking in the same section, it's fine; the more links the better.—Cal Jedi (Personal Comm Channel) 21:35, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- No worries, Cal. The thing is, the word "Queen", for instance, is linked three times outside the infobox and intro, that's just excessive. Stake black msg 21:47, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- That is true, indeed. The multiple links to "Queen" and "Naboo" were the remainders of a former state of the article. I just got rid of them. Sorry I didn't see it myself, I must be tired. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:53, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- No worries, Cal. The thing is, the word "Queen", for instance, is linked three times outside the infobox and intro, that's just excessive. Stake black msg 21:47, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry to interject, but I'd like to point out that lots of links is a good thing. According to the Manual of Style, everything (that is applicable to the situation) should be linked once in the infobox, once upon its first mention in the intro, and once upon its first mention in the body. Provided the article is not double linking in the same section, it's fine; the more links the better.—Cal Jedi
I'd like a more comprehensive BtS section. By the current description, it seems like she was only pictured, which apparently isn't true. Was she fleetingly mentioned? How much of her did they reveal?- In fact, what is said in the article is a conjunction of reasonable, fully attributed assumptions: the book foreword says that T'enna made all the sketches on the field, directly observing the subjects. If that's true, then she must have met the Queen, since she depicted her three times (with a twirrl, riding and among a group of hunters). The Queen on her guarlara clearly is a posed "promotional" portrait. We can be sure it's the Queen because the book says the guarlaras are "ridden by monarchy only", and she bears the royal scar of remembrance on the lower lip. The rest is mere observation and description. As I understand it, none of this is original research; it falls under the "logical deductions based on fully attributed data." --LelalMekha (talk) 21:46, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Interesting. Perhaps you can add some of that to the BtS; it'll enrich it. Stake black msg 21:51, December 29, 2012 (UTC) --LelalMekha (talk) 22:15, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Done. See if you like it the way it is. --LelalMekha (talk) 22:15, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Interesting. Perhaps you can add some of that to the BtS; it'll enrich it. Stake black msg 21:51, December 29, 2012 (UTC) --LelalMekha (talk) 22:15, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- In fact, what is said in the article is a conjunction of reasonable, fully attributed assumptions: the book foreword says that T'enna made all the sketches on the field, directly observing the subjects. If that's true, then she must have met the Queen, since she depicted her three times (with a twirrl, riding and among a group of hunters). The Queen on her guarlara clearly is a posed "promotional" portrait. We can be sure it's the Queen because the book says the guarlaras are "ridden by monarchy only", and she bears the royal scar of remembrance on the lower lip. The rest is mere observation and description. As I understand it, none of this is original research; it falls under the "logical deductions based on fully attributed data." --LelalMekha (talk) 21:46, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
I think you can lose the third phrase on the first paragraph and just explain it all in the proper History section. Stake black msg 21:27, December 29, 2012 (UTC)- If you think so. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:46, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
A Force User
- Another well-written article, Lelal, so just it just needs a little more perfection. Corellian PremierThe Force will be with you always 02:46, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
- Why thank you! --LelalMekha (talk) 09:52, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
It should have a "1st" tag (pictured or mentioned or whatever) somewhere. Would that be the Wildlife Guide?Corellian PremierThe Force will be with you always 02:46, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
- Done. --LelalMekha (talk) 09:52, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
I've never seen The Wildlife book, so does it distinctly say she preferred riding sidesaddle? If not maybe just say she rode sidesaddle when she was pictured.Corellian PremierThe Force will be with you always 02:46, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed. (It really is a beautiful book, by the way.) --LelalMekha (talk) 09:52, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
Please mention that she had pet twirrls in the body. You mention twirrling, but not that she had pet twirrls.- Added. --LelalMekha (talk) 09:52, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
You mention gray eyes in both the biography and the personality and traits sections. I would suggest only mentioning it once.- Granted. --LelalMekha (talk) 09:52, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
"The Queen would occasionally go twirrling with other ladies of the court on a royal white-furred gualama herd." Don't you mean white-furred gualama and not white-furred gualama herd?--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 05:42, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
- My bad, I see what you mean now.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 05:44, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
- My bad, I see what you mean now.--Exiled Jedi
You refer to her hair as light brown in the infobox, but as simply brown in the body. Please keep it consistent.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 05:47, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed. --LelalMekha (talk) 09:52, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
Attack of the Clone
If possible, I would suggest making a disambig page (i.e. Unidentified Queen of Naboo as a separate page) and listing all of the unidentified Queens there, so that the article can make use of {{Youmay}} to differentiate between the various unidentifieds.- I'd be happy to oblige, but "Unidentified Queen of Naboo" currently redirects to "Unidentified Queen of Naboo (Gungan–Naboo War)", and I do not know how to override the current redirect. --LelalMekha (talk) 12:17, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
- You should be able to edit the article and add the necessary disambiguation. CC7567 (talk) 18:53, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
- Done. --LelalMekha (talk) 19:15, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
- You should be able to edit the article and add the necessary disambiguation. CC7567 (talk) 18:53, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
- I'd be happy to oblige, but "Unidentified Queen of Naboo" currently redirects to "Unidentified Queen of Naboo (Gungan–Naboo War)", and I do not know how to override the current redirect. --LelalMekha (talk) 12:17, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
Please note that the title in the succession box also requires sourcing like everything else in the box.- Done. --LelalMekha (talk) 12:17, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
- Great work. CC7567 (talk) 07:02, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 23:15, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
Initially, I wanted to make it a CA, but it became too long. —Unsigned comment by LelalMekha (talk • contribs)