Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Unidentified Aurorient Express band conductor

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  • 1 Unidentified Aurorient Express band conductor
    • 1.1 (1 ACs/2 Users/3 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 Attack of the Clone
        • 1.1.2.2 All along the watchtower
        • 1.1.2.3 Cav
        • 1.1.2.4 Jangeth
        • 1.1.2.5 From the Council Chambers:
        • 1.1.2.6 Winterz
        • 1.1.2.7 Fred strikes
        • 1.1.2.8 Dogma
      • 1.1.3 Comments
    • 1.2 Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

Unidentified Aurorient Express band conductor

  • Nominated by: Trak Nar Ramble on 03:38, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:Possibly some of the most clunky wording in an article, but this guy has no defined gender. Hopefully enough copy-edits will smooth out the bumps... Trak Nar Ramble on 03:38, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

(1 ACs/2 Users/3 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote JangFett (Talk) 18:38, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
  2. —MJ— Comlink 19:59, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Commander Code-8 G'day, mate 23:04, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Object

Attack of the Clone
  • I would say an article for the guy's species should be added, seeing as it's pretty unique. CC7567 (talk) 21:12, March 9, 2013 (UTC)
    • The thing is... we had an article. However, after a discussion with other people, it was deemed that the article be removed. Trak Nar Ramble on 02:17, March 12, 2013 (UTC)
      • Was there an issue with the notability of the species, then? Because to my knowledge we've had articles for less. Just want to make sure. CC7567 (talk) 02:50, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
        • There was an issue with the validity of the species article, as it was written by a user who had a history of not checking his/her facts first. However, I'll run the article by another user again and see what they think, and then go ahead and make a species article, if it is deemed necessary. At the moment, we're looking into other species to see if this maestro might possibly be of an existing race. Trak Nar Ramble on 01:29, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
          • If I may interject, Skeeter appears to be the same species as the conductor.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 01:54, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
            • Skeeter was brought up as a possible match, but he has six limbs, whereas our nameless conductor only has four. Other than that, they do share a number of similarities, and I had noted it in the Bts, only to remove it later. Trak Nar Ramble on 01:57, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
              • Okay, an article has been made and linked to. Trak Nar Ramble on 02:55, March 16, 2013 (UTC)
                • "Unknown" should be avoided if possible to maintain an IU perspective, as "unknown" is more from an OOU perspective, since the species' name wasn't necessarily "unknown" in-universe. CC7567 (talk) 14:59, March 16, 2013 (UTC)
                  • Fixed it. Trak Nar Ramble on 04:13, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
All along the watchtower
  • Is it worth it to mention that his "honor and privilege" quote may have been inspired by the Titanic's conductor? Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 03:23, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
    • Unless I have a source that the quote was indeed inspired by the movie, then I can't include it. However, I could always hunt down the contact information of the comic's author and run the question by him. Not sure how soon I would be able to do that, though, so that may be a tidbit that would be added later. Trak Nar Ramble on 01:29, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
Cav
  • Species is unreffed in the infobox.
    • Fixed. Trak Nar Ramble on 03:29, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
  • In the intro, you mention the "evacuees", but give no reason as to why the ship was evacuating in the first place.
    • Added. Trak Nar Ramble on 03:29, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
  • What was the motive behind the attack on the ship?
    • Added. Trak Nar Ramble on 03:29, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
  • Just a heads up - terms like "unnamed" "unknown" or "unidentified" are not used in the article bodies when refering to species with no canonical name. I've removed the references and covered the removal, but please check for readability. - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 11:31, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
    • Noted. Trak Nar Ramble on 03:29, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
  • One more - I think we're going to have an article for the attack on the liner, or see if we have one laying around the Wook somewhere to link to. - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 20:34, March 25, 2013 (UTC)
Jangeth
  • Please reload your infobox JangFett (Talk) 21:58, April 7, 2013 (UTC)
    • Done. Trak Nar Ramble on 03:03, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • While minor, it is not appropriate to have "unidentified" within the infobox. Normally you would try to describe it as best as you can or in this case just stick with "insectoid species."
    • Fixed. Trak Nar Ramble on 03:09, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
  • Just to be sure, was Qui-Gon a Jedi Master in the comics or a Knight? Sorry, I've always familiarized him as a Master. :P
    • The comic doesn't specify. Trak Nar Ramble on 03:09, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
      • ...but other sources do. According to page 8 of Jedi Apprentice: The Rising Force (for example), Jinn is a Master as of 44 BBY. In absence of any evidence of demotion, it's safe to assume that he was still a Master six years later. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 03:18, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
        • Thanks for the info! Fixed now. Trak Nar Ramble on 03:25, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
  • Please double check my work in the appearance section. Did he appear in both comics? JangFett (Talk) 04:10, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
    • He appears in both comics, and I had originally written those appearances that way, only for it to be changed to just mention the series as a whole. Trak Nar Ramble on 03:09, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
From the Council Chambers:
  • The intro is confusing; you show the Jedi crashing the party, then (apparently) back up to explain the terrorist attack, before bringing the Jedi in again. Can we move things around here so that they're in the order they actually occurred? It would make a whole lot more sense that way.
    • Reworded. Trak Nar Ramble on 05:31, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
      • Better, but still a bit confusing. You still show the Jedi crashing in from nowhere, then back up to say they were dispatched, which is out of order. Say why and that they were sent to the ship, then show them dropping in. The first bio paragraph shows what I mean. —MJ— War Room 06:04, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
        • Reworded. Trak Nar Ramble on 06:41, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
  • The BTS has too much fluff. There's no need to retell the character's entire story again from an OOU perspective. Everything from the third sentence on can go.
    • Nixed. Trak Nar Ramble on 05:31, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
  • Otherwise, looks good. —MJ— Holocomm 04:19, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
Winterz
  • Article for Mission to Yorn Skot (Aurorient Express) pls, the Jedi's quest seems relevant enough. Winterz (talk) 11:14, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
Fred strikes
  • Please separate the second sentence after "security droids." Same for the last intro sentence after "evacuees." MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 14:43, May 14, 2013 (UTC)
Dogma
  • In the intro, who are the mollusks? It should be stated that they are part of the band.
  • The intro is quite large in comparison to the article, so you might want to remove a non-essential sentence or two.
  • The end of the bio where the guy is about to leave has a bit of play by play with the dialogue. You should probably tone it down a bit. 501st dogma(talk) 20:52, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

  1. ACvote I am sorry, Trak, I'm sure you had your valid reasons, but this has been on for a while and since you've been unresponsive, I think it's the only way. You can always get this baby up some other time ;) Winterz (talk) 00:51, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:23, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
  3. ACvote IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 23:25, May 19, 2013 (UTC)