Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Ssssk!

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Contents

  • 1 Ssssk!
    • 1.1 (4 ACs/3 Users/7 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 501st
        • 1.1.2.2 Boomerang!
        • 1.1.2.3 El Jefe
        • 1.1.2.4 Cav
        • 1.1.2.5 Toprawa
        • 1.1.2.6 SE
      • 1.1.3 Comments
      • 1.1.4 Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

Ssssk!

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:27, October 25, 2013 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: An old marvel classic

(4 ACs/3 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. 501st dogma(talk) 00:02, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
  2. The quote satisfies the objection. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 02:23, November 3, 2013 (UTC)!
  3. ACvote IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 02:41, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 19:31, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Winterz (talk) 23:49, February 15, 2014 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:58, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
  7. Supreme Emperor (talk) 16:53, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Object

501st
  • In the quotes, twice you capitalize a word that is not supposed to be capitalize - write and dunno. Are these mistakes, or are they supposed to be like that?
    • Oops no. fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
  • "...and flee. As they fled, a huge explosion..." Kill a flea, would you.
    • Changed the second. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:44, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
  • 501st dogma(talk) 12:49, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
Boomerang!
  • The exclamation mark is a point of curiosity to say the least. Can we have some sort of quote verifying that the name does indeed have the point in it and a BTS note? Purely because, not to go all Age of Innocence on you, it is "most irregular." Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 23:38, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
    • Changed one of the quotes to something showing that the exclamation mark is actually part of his name. One of the reasons I wrote up this article was that I was so sure it had to be wrong but that is how it appears in the source. Ayrehead02 (talk) 19:47, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
El Jefe
  • "Ssssk! and the other Imperial forces arrived and attacked Solo, with Ssssk! attempting to telepathically attack him." Double "attack".
    • Fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:56, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • "The two scientists, Doctor Ualp Xathan and his assistant Fem Nu-Ar, had provided the Empire, in return for funding, with charts they had found showing the route to the Seoul system, and on the planet began researching an abandoned city built there by the Seoularians, an extinct species native to the planet." Would like to see this choppy sentence broken up. Same with the next one, actually.
    • Done. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:56, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • Stormtrooper isn't supposed to be capitalized, I don't think.
    • Fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:56, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • Why would Drezzel immediately order them to go after Solo? Context please.
    • Because his landing was unauthorised, added. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:56, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
  • In the bio you capitalize "Key crystal" but you don't in the intro. Be consistent. IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 03:09, December 3, 2013 (UTC)
    • Fixed. Sorry for the huge delay on this I don't know how I didn't see these. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:56, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
Cav
  • Instead Ssssk! attacked Solo telepathically; however Solo boosted his own mental powers using the crystal he had with him, which the scientists had identified as the key crystal. - you have not established that Solo has met the scientists yet. thye kinda come out of nowhere.
    • Added in an earlier mention. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:02, January 25, 2014 (UTC)
  • No mention in the Star Wars: The Comics Companion? - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 13:07, January 21, 2014 (UTC)
    • Hmm I wasn't actually aware of that source and don't have access to it. Do you know anyone who does? Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:02, January 25, 2014 (UTC)
      • Luckily, I happen to know a highly qualified individual. Me. And there was no mention. - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 19:31, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Two things I notice immediately. First, the P/T quote needs to be formatted with the Quote template, not Dialogue, per policy.
    • Fixed the quote. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:46, February 13, 2014 (UTC)
  • Secondly, I feel like the second paragraph of the intro goes into way too much PBP detail. Try to summarize all of that more succinctly. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:45, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
    • Reduced it a bit. Was it too much or too little? Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:46, February 13, 2014 (UTC)
      • It's better. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:28, February 13, 2014 (UTC)
  • Ayrehead, I am very alarmed at some of the grammatical and punctuational constructs that you get wrong. I'm going to show you several that I see in the intro alone. Please pay attention to this, and try to adapt this in your future articles:
    • If a quote includes quotation marks within quotation marks, the second set of quotation marks is formatted as 'this' rather than "this" to avoid confusion. The article's intro quote has this incorrect.
    • Quote attribution lines do not get ending punctuation. This is now site policy. Two of the three quotes in this article have this incorrect.
    • It is grammatically incorrect to say "would of," as in "I would of done this." The correct form is "would have." Although I suppose it's possible, I seriously doubt the Marvel writers got this wrong; from the intro quote: "or you would of been reduced"
    • This, particularly, I want you to pay attention to because I see this repeatedly in almost all of your articles. When the word "however" separates two complete sentences within a single sentence, it must be punctuated with a semicolon followed by a comma. For example: "I ordered a pizza; however, my friends were not hungry." You have a habit of punctuating it like so, to quote a sentence from this article: "Ssssk! attempted to telepathically assault Solo, however the smuggler used a key crystal to defeat the feline." The word "however" is not a coordinating conjunction, so it cannot be used in the same way you would use "and," but" or "or." When you say "He attempted to assault Solo, however the smuggler..." with that punctuation, the sentence becomes a run-on. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:28, February 13, 2014 (UTC)
      • Ok I've fixed each of these issues here and will try to apply them to all future articles I work on. Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:59, February 13, 2014 (UTC)
  • More quote things: Grammatically, there should be commas before "scum" in the intro quote, before "captain" in the bio quote, and after "I dunno" in the P/T quote. Does the original source really omit these?
    • Fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:28, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
  • In the bio, the article mentions the "route" to Seoul. Would it be appropriate to pipelink that to hyperlane? "showing the route to the Seoul system"
    • I guess so since the definition of a hyperlane seems to be a safe route through hyperspace to a destination. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:28, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
  • This Marvel comic issue cannot serve as a literal source for the 4 ABY date, since the BBY/ABY system wasn't even created yet. We know the dates for the Marvel comics based on secondary sources. You will need to find something else to source the 4 ABY date to. This may require a reference note.
    • Ok the dating seems to be based on the fact that the issue mentions that the battle of Endor has already occurred, but precedes the issues showing the Nagai-Tof war which are both confirmed to take place in 39:3 GrS. I've added a reference based on this. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:28, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm confused by this sentence. Is Han using the crystal to detect them telepathically? Can we clarify this? "Instead, Ssssk! attacked Solo, who had found the imprisoned scientists in the room telepathically;" Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:05, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
    • Telepathically was meant to be in a totally different part of the sentence I'm not sure how it got there. Fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:28, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
SE
  • In the second paragraph of the intro, you say "assault Solo; however, the smuggler used a key crystal to defeat the feline. However, Solo accidentally activated". Please switch up one of the howevers. Supreme Emperor (talk) 07:45, February 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • I got this in my review, SE. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:05, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 16:59, February 21, 2014 (UTC)


  1. Currently at 935 words by my count.Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:27, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

  1. ACvote Idle objections two weeks old. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:29, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
  2. ACvote CC7567 (talk) 06:01, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
    • Oh my god I have no idea how I missed these! Fixing now. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:44, January 11, 2014 (UTC)