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Space Battle at Kuat

  • Nominated by: Bvdrunner 18:27, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: I think it's ready...

(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 18:26, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Keep up the good work :) Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 17:58, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
  3. JangFett (Talk) 12:12, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
  4. ACvote CC7567 (talk) 19:09, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
  5. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 04:54, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:20, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Object

  1. Its not. Before beginning any further review, you need to source everything. If you don't really know how to, I'll do it for you. DjMack 21:18, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
    • No; if it appeared once or if the information comes from one source, then you don't need to source anything. It's self-sourcing. JangFett (Talk) 21:23, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
      • Actually, there is at least one more source, so this article does need to be sourced. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 12:32, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
        • So would the First Battle of Kashyyyk (Galactic Civil War) also not meet the requirments for GA status? It also appears solely in EaW but doesn't cite the guide. I don't actually have the guide so if someone else could summerize the information presented in it that would be much appreciated. Bvdrunner 15:26, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
          • Yes, it would not meet the present requirements. Keep in mind, however, that it achieved good status when the rules were not so strict. As for your request, I'll see what the guide has to say. Now that you've brought the issue up, I think I'll also fix the Kashyyyk battle. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 15:39, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
            • Thanks QuiGonJinn, that would be great. How much extra and relevent information is actually in the guide?Bvdrunner 02:53, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
              • In the interests of making this a learning experience, try it yourself. Lol keep it quiet though, it might not be legal. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 05:25, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
                • Thanks for that. I gave it a shot. It is now sourced with the main updates being the information regarding the Sundered Hearts weakening of the fighters and the fact that the canisters were not gas but "orbital resource" canisters. I also put in the Databank source for the Incom info. Bvdrunner 03:23, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
    • I believe this objection has been taken care off.Bvdrunner 00:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
  2. QGJ
    • First of all, what is the source for the "c. 0.6 BBY" date? I don't remember the game being that specific in terms of chronology.
      • I also couldn't find it. It was a layover from a previous editor. Fixed. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
    • Rebel casualties: None. Are you sure? Isn't it possible for some of the escorting corvettes to be destroyed?
      • See above. Fixed. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
        • We generally try to avoid words like "unknown" in articles. I'd advise you to just leave that section blank.
          • Done as well. Bvdrunner 00:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
    • Give some context for Emergency Code Zero.
      • Done. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
    • You need to create articles for the Kuat communications officer and the Tyranny commander, so they can be linked in this article.
    • …whose careless commander had allowed to come out of hyperspace with the shields down. "Careless" is rather POV-ish.
      • I agree. I fixed some NPOV stuff earlier but missed this. Fixed. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
    • …the Rebels figured that they then had a clear shot at attacking Fresia. This is rather colloquial. Please reword.
      • Fixed. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
    • Expand the "Behind the scenes" section. See the aforementioned Battle of Kashyyyk for an example. You also need to mention that the battle was identified as "Space Battle of Kuat" in the Prima Guide.
      • Fixed. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
    • Nice job for a first attempt. However, please watch your linking; each item must be linked once in the intro, once in the infobox and once in the main body of the article.
      • I don't see any remaining problems. Thanks for the advice. Bvdrunner 03:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC) QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 11:29, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
  3. Fett
    • Missing date in the intro and prelude. Be sure to include this, and source the date in the prelude section. I'll give this another review later on. :) JangFett (Talk) 00:41, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
      • Dates added. Bvdrunner 04:28, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
  4. The Grand Master
    • "However, a serious complication arose when Antilles and his taskforce entered into the Fre'ji system and detected the Imperial I-class Star Destroyer Tyranny in orbit around Fresia." What serious complication arose? (If the "complication" refers to the Tyranny, then this should be reworded to better reflect this.)
    • The aftermath should be shortened a bit. It's a little too detailed on the following mission.
    • Great work for a first nom :). Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 01:15, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
      • All adressed. I hope that the reduction of the aftermath was sufficient enough. Only that one sentence seemed irrelevent and I added a link to the battle it referenced. Bvdrunner 05:51, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
  5. Soresu arrives with a dash of elegance
    • During the battle, the Sundered Heart was able to weaken the attacking fighters, causing their weapons to become less effective. I believe this could be dismissed and removed as game mechanics. The Sundered Heart's special ability is more of a game balance thing than solid canon.
      • Removed. Bvdrunner 16:38, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
    • Are there any other quotes (battle report, mission briefings etc.) from the other missions in EAW that would work in the Prelude and Aftermath sections?
    • And that's all I can find. Nicely done! SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 07:48, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
      • My gaming computer broke down something horrible over the weekend, so getting the quotes may take a while longer then expected. Could anyone else help out? It's the first level so it shouldn't take more then ten minutes max. Bvdrunner 23:30, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
      • I added some in for you. If it is to your liking, I will strike and suport. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 05:49, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
        • Thanks a lot. Those are basically the quotes I was thinking of. I might replay the level one more time, but I'm satisfied with where they are now. Bvdrunner 03:37, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
  6. Attack of the Clone
    • "the officer activated Emergency Code Zero, which resulted in the Tyranny's return to Kuat": can this be expanded any more? It's a bit of a jump that makes it sound like there's a plot hole in the writing.
    • Please use the {{1st}} tag in the Appearances (or, alternatively, the {{1stm}} tag in the Sources) wherever appropriate.
      • There is only one appearance, so the tag is not really necessary. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 18:25, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
        • There's still a source that could have come out before the game, and unless the release dates on their respective articles are misleading, the Prima Guide indeed appears to have been published before the game. CC7567 (talk) 18:39, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
          • Bvdrunner, are you sure about this one? Going off of the game's and guide's articles, it seems to be the other way around. CC7567 (talk) 23:20, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
            • Sorry, it was late and I just wanted to get it done. Won't happen again. I confirmed the release dates on the official sites for each.
    • Other than that, very good work for a first nomination. Keep up the good work. CC7567 (talk) 05:11, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
      • All item's adressed. Bvdrunner 23:08, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
  7. Toprawa:
    • The second paragraph of the Prelude section needs to be sourced. I've left a Fact tag for you to see it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:37, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
    • This sentence is extremely confusing. Did the Rebels destroy these objects? I'm unclear where this "resulting explosion" is coming from. Please reword to clarify: "Many orbital resource containers were strewn around the half-constructed ships of the facility; they were easily destroyed and many of the shipyards were destroyed in the resulting explosions."
    • This sentence doesn't really tell us what the purpose of going to Wayland was outside of somehow being connected to C-3PO's plan to infiltrate Freja. Please do a little bit to explain this briefly, but be careful not to go into too much unnecessary detail.
    • Otherwise, a very nice job for your first GAN. I'm impressed. Welcome to the world of Wookieepedia article writing. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:37, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
      • I've adressed all issues. I hope that putting source tags at the end of each paragraph is sufficent to imply that the whole paragraph draws from the given source. Also, the whole exploding containers thing could possibly be attributed to game mechanics. I think it has been properly clarified, but I can remove the whole reference to "orbital resource containers" if you think it is nesscary. Bvdrunner 04:06, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
        • Yes, putting one reference tag at the end of a paragraph is sufficient to source the entire paragraph to one given source. You seem to have gotten this down fine. And the bit about the containers is fine. Good work. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:20, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 21:20, November 19, 2009 (UTC)