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Shmorg

(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Supporting now, but an article for the cantina would be nice. 501st dogma(talk) 14:23, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
  2. ACvote IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 04:02, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 17:41, December 1, 2014 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:16, December 7, 2014 (UTC)
  5. Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:39, December 8, 2014 (UTC)
  6. Fire when ready.AV-6R7User talk:AV-6R7 03:41, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

Object

501st
  • Death needs to be mentioned in intro
    • Alright. Wasn't sure because of game mechanics. Wasn't sure if it was needed in the infobox either.
      • Well, other articles with game mechanics have it in intro and infobox. See Cha'nagh.
  • Is there any way to get a better image color wise? You can't tell that he's brown skinned with purple eyes.
    • It's the image provided in the game guide. I thought about color, but wasn't sure how it would look "accuracy" wise. Also, getting the game to run on Windows 8 is a pain in the ass. If you think it's really necessary, as I understand the reasons as to why, I'll try and see if I can get to it.
      • Well, how did you find out that his skin was brown and so forth?
        • Because I've been playing the game for years. Also, the Gran are clearly lighter colored in this picture compared to this Gran (Yes, he's a live action actor, but his in-game model reflects his color scheme). Again, depending on my luck with the game, I might be able to get an in-game group screenshot. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 23:48, October 17, 2014 (UTC)
          • If you can get it to work, then get a new picture, but otherwise, if it's being a big pain, don't bother. 501st dogma(talk) 12:51, October 18, 2014 (UTC)
  • Article for the bartender?
  • Shouldn't his infobox affiliation be Imperial, as he was hired by them? You can add a {{c|hired by}} maybe.
    • Forgot about that. Added, although I was wondering if it should use a {{c}} or say "Hired by X"
  • "Katan then collected any supplies in the bar before leaving." Collecting any supplies doesn't work here, and I don't think that this needs to be in the article. 501st dogma(talk) 00:24, October 17, 2014 (UTC)
  • In the intro, you have the Grans attacking Katarn, while the body has them only turning their attention to him. Which one is correct? 501st dogma(talk) 12:29, October 17, 2014 (UTC)
    • I kinda meant it as the same thing, but it should read clearer now. When you enter the bar, the Gran (sometimes) stop fighting and attack you. It is possible for them to not notice you, however. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 01:11, October 18, 2014 (UTC)
  • "Right as the brawl began, the New Republic agent Kyle Katarn, who was on a personal vendetta against the Dark Jedi Jerec—whose towers resided in the center of Barons Hed—stumbled into the cantina." This sentence is awkward. Mind reworking it?
    • Alright, does it read any better now?
  • The Gran who speaks out about getting the tab probably deserves an article, as he pretty much caused the whole kurfuffle. 501st dogma(talk) 14:19, October 30, 2014 (UTC)
Floyd
  • Give a mention of the timeframe in the intro.
    • Added.
  • Any mention of what the Empire hired him to do?
    • Prowl the streets, apparently. I added a bit more in the bio to make it clear he wasn't just randomly in the city, though.
  • "No blasters! No Blasters!" The capitalization of this is unusual, is this how it reads in the subtitles?
    • No subtitles exist in gameplay. The capital B was a typo. Exclamation points because he was yelling.
  • Could there be an article for the bartender? I think so. IFYLOFD (Enter the Floydome) 03:27, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
SE
  • Can you clarify that Katarn is a Jedi trainee in the body? Only mention you have makes it sound like a separate individual imo. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:17, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
    • Yah, I see what you mean. Updated. As a note, added that Katarn took the shield units in the back of the info boxpicture, as 100% items would basically be 100% game completion (And the guide suggests taking them). --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 16:22, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
  • "The bartender, afraid,". Can you slightly reword this? As is, sounds like his name was afraid. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:08, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
    • Good point. Now says "The terrified bartender" which means the same thing, more or less. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 19:10, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
  • Can you clarify in the intro that both Gran wanted to pay for the drinks?
  • Does the game state the bartender was terrified? Or is he just concerned about his bar? Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:01, November 10, 2014 (UTC)
    • Okay, I had a longer response to this, but some Guru Meditation bullshit popped out so blech. Uh, he shouts "No blasters! etc." and he runs around behind the counter until the fighting stops. Then he stands around and tells you to knock off killing his customers (Funny enough, there's a bartender on Nar Shaddaa who is also rather apathetic towards his customers getting killed by Kyle. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 03:53, November 11, 2014 (UTC)
      • After some thought, I still think it sounds like he was concerned. Running around yelling at the player makes him sound more concerned than terrified, in my opinion. I haven't played the game though, so I could be missing something.
  • Is there an article for the bartender? If not, is it worth creating one? Supreme Emperor (talk) 04:29, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
  • I think you could combine the sentence regarding the Bartender saying no blasters with the sentence after it. Perhaps something like "The bartender frantically called for the Gran to not use blasters, though none of them were armed, with the exception of one who had a belt of thermal detonators."
  • Quote for the P&T section? Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:12, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
    • Uh, okay. I just grabbed the bio quote from the other Gran's page, if that's alright. There really are no other quotes. Well, the quotes all work if that's the one you wanted me to add. :) --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 19:35, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
      • I suppose if there are no other quotes it will have to do.
  • In the bio, it says one of Shmorg's jobs was to prowl the streets. What was he prowling the streets for?
  • Were the other Gran bounty hunters? If so, please specify this.
  • Can you give a bit of context on what Government House is?
  • What did Shmorg attack Katarn with? Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:53, November 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • Added some info and reworded a bit, to make all four objected areas clearer. How does it look? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 15:43, November 19, 2014 (UTC)
      • Please reword the sentence about them attacking him. All you need to say is that they attacked him with their fists. As it is is overly confusing.
  • Why did the Gran attack him?
    • Because their bad guys npcs in a video game? I reworded this whole bit a bit to reflect the guide's suggestion, but otherwise they just attack you when two of them fall. It's a video game. Best explanation for it. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 05:33, November 24, 2014 (UTC)
  • "Their second brawl was unsuccessful" Can you specify that the Gran attacked Katarn?
  • "Shmorg was a brawler with large hands, but was otherwise gracious enough" Can you reword this? As is it sounds like his large hands have something to do with how gracious he is. Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:17, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 03:52, December 8, 2014 (UTC)