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Paarin Minor

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  1. Commander Code-8 Felicitations malefactors! 23:21, April 17, 2014 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 15:29, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

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Toprawa
  • After looking at your sourcing, I have problems with these two sentences: "The Imperial control lasted until 25 ABY–26 ABY, and it was once again part of the Empire during the Second Galactic Civil War. In 137 ABY, Paarin Minor lay inside the borders of the Sith Lord Darth Krayt's Empire." I will explain it following bullet:
    • First of all, you source the 25-26 ABY date to page 217 of the Atlas, but that map gives no indication whatsoever which faction at that time controlled Paarin Minor, which is not included on this map. All this map shows are intersecting wartime advances and the tiny Imperial Remnant territory, which does not include Paarin Minor's grid square. The only definitive thing we can say for Paarin Minor is that Pellaeon's Imperial Remnant controlled the Cademimu sector as of 12 ABY. As far as I can see, nothing after that is clear, because the M-6 grid square is divided territorially right down the middle in every single map, so there's no way we can say Paarin Minor is part of any faction after 12 ABY. You should cut out these last two sentences and just say that Paarin Minor's sector belonged to the Imperial Remnant as of 12 ABY. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 05:42, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
      • I've looked through all of the Atlas maps, and now that I have a better understanding of where Paarin Minor lies exactly, I've determined the following, which you should probably consider including in the article. Ignore anything I said previously that contradicts any of this:
        • Paarin Minor was part of the New Territories
          • Added. Clone Commander Lee Talk 13:38, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
            • Read this sentence, and then please rewrite it for better prose: "This region was part of a region called the New Territories..." And please reflect this in the infobox as well. A sub-bullet under Outer Rim Territories would be appropriate. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:28, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
        • Paarin Minor was located in unaligned/contested space during the New Sith Wars (Atlas, pg 133)
        • Paarin Minor was part of Oversector Outer by 4 ABY (Atlas, pg 194)
        • Paarin Minor's sector was annexed by Thrawn in 9 ABY (Atlas, pg 200)
        • Paarin Minor was part of Pellaeon's Imperial Remnant until 17 ABY (Atlas, page 207)
          • Would you agree if I just keep it like that it was controlled by various Imperial personnel until 17 ABY? Clone Commander Lee Talk 13:35, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
        • Paarin Minor was part of the Galactic Empire during the Second Galactic Civil War (Atlas, page 225)
        • Note here that Paarin Minor was definitely not part of the Empire/Imperial Remnant by 25-29 ABY, per the Atlas maps on 217, 219, and 220. I guess it would be part of the New Republic, but these maps don't really say. I think you need to avoid giving any indication of its affiliation between 17 ABY and 40 ABY.
        • I don't think you can safely say that Paarin Minor was part of Krayt's Empire, because that map is very large, and it seems like the boundary between his territory and Roan Fel's Empire-in-Exile is right about where Paarin Minor is, so I think it's impossible to tell exactly. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 07:00, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
  • I've also added Warfare to the Sources list, since Paarin Minor is included on the map on pg 212. Now that we have a map image of Paarin Minor, that should be uploaded and used in the infobox, as is the trend with many of our planet articles. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 06:18, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
  • And you're missing info from that map, now that I look at it a little bit. The fact that Paarin Minor is located on the Celanon Spur, for example. I suggest you take some time and look at this stuff and see what other info you might be missing. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 06:20, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
  • And you're missing even more information: Paarin Minor was HQ of the Ninth Sector Army during the Clone Wars, page 98 in Warfare, which you would have ascertained if you had simply explored the "What links here" link on the article. Lee, I have literally overhauled your entire article for you just by skimming through Atlas and Warfare and finding copious amounts of information that you missed. I have no other words to describe this nomination other than this is a disgrace. You should never nominate an article with so much missing information. Please pay closer attention to the sources you're researching when attempting to write an article for nomination. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:52, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

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