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Murley

  • Nominated by: Cyborg Commando (talk) 03:10, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: "Cats in Star Wars, why not?"
  • Date Archived: 18:38, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Final word count: 780 words (75 introduction, 480 body, 225 behind the scenes)
  • WookieeProject (optional): WP:Mandoverse

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Support

  1. ACvote —spookywillowwtalk 15:43, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Lewisr (talk) 17:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Nice work! TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 18:01, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
  4. ACvote OOM 224 (he/him) 18:37, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Object

Lew
  • Missing the episode guide for part one in sources Lewisr (talk) 03:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
  • Loth-cat databank entry is missing as a source Lewisr (talk) 03:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
  • Context for Ezra in the intro Lewisr (talk) 03:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
  • I think a date would be worth adding in the intro Lewisr (talk) 03:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
  • Ahsoka needs context in the body Lewisr (talk) 03:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
  • Eye colour is infobox exclusive Lewisr (talk) 03:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
    • Complete. Cyborg Commando (talk) 06:10, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
      • Now that particular bit of context is intro exclusive, also rebel isn't capitalised in canon per the manual of style Lewisr (talk) 15:25, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
        • That's my bad on the capitalization. Added info to body as well. Only use commander in the intro in the generic sense, but I specify in the body that Bridger is a Lt. Commander. That okay? Cyborg Commando (talk) 16:50, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
          • All good! I think it'd be simplier to refer to Ezra as a Jedi though, since that's first and foremost what he was and also can be cited to part one Lewisr (talk) 17:26, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
  • That Sabine left to find Ezra is intro exclusive currently Lewisr (talk) 15:51, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
  • For the episode guide references in the BTS, you'll need to cite specifically to the relevant sections of the guide Lewisr (talk) 13:48, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
    • How? Unlike past episode guides, the commentary gallery and concept art gallery are pop-up images with accompanying text. They aren't tied to separate pages, and as far as I can tell the url is the same. Cyborg Commando (talk) 19:42, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
  • I think if you're mentioning the Nightsister with the compass it should really be at its first mention in the body overall rather than in the PT Lewisr (talk) 06:11, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
    • I can either move it or nix that detail entirely if it's not relevant. What's your preference? Also, should a page be created (and linked) for that particular compass? Cyborg Commando (talk) 11:28, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
      • It's not entirely relevant here I'd say, so if you wanted to remove then I'd be fine. I do think the compass should have a page though and linked Lewisr (talk) 03:29, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
  • I'd like to see just a little expanding on the intro to include a little more from Murley's part in the first 2 episodes Lewisr (talk) 21:21, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
  • This databank entry for Murley will need updating onto the page Lewisr (talk) 19:27, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
    • Updated. Biggest change is the clarification that Murley is not a domesticated pet. Cyborg Commando (talk) 07:35, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
  • Discussed with another AC, but since Murley is not a domesticated pet the pet template probably isn't applicable here in the end. So switching to the character one seems to be the only alternative Lewisr (talk) 04:35, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
    • Switched. Question (maybe to run by the ACs?) as I know the unlicensed sources policy is squishy: Dave Filoni recently appeared on the podcast Dagobah Dispatch, discussing the fan reaction to Murley as well as the cat's comings and goings. He also referred to the cat using he/him pronouns, which is a first. As Filoni is a lead creative behind the series, can/should any of that be noted under the BtS? Cyborg Commando (talk) 05:34, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
      • That definitely is info to be noted in the BTS. Would just note in regards to the pronouns that Filoni also used he/him though the episode audio description used it/its Lewisr (talk) 05:48, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
Anil
  • I think there are at least several missing Sources featuring Murley that were released before the Ahsoka premiere.
  • Partially related to the objection above, BTS should note that the cat was first depicted in the teaser trailer. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 20:12, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
    • BTS updated, will look for additional sources. Cyborg Commando (talk) 22:01, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
  • I think the loth-cat being a breed of tooka requires sourcing. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 19:04, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
    • Cited it to the Loth-cat Databank. It's not included the current write-up, but an older one which is backed up. Is there a way to indicate that it's referencing an older version? I also removed the tooka distinction from the infobox (Purry (Corellia) as precedent). I am not against including it though, so any opinions on that decision? Cyborg Commando (talk) 00:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
      • That old Databank refers to the tooka as a family rather than a particular species, so unless this contradicts with other sources, the infobox looks good to me. Also there is a parameter (oldversion) for situations like this, and I've already added it in my copy-edit. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 01:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
spookly
  • If Murley's pronouns were only revealed in the audio description and not the episode itself, the first usage of them in the biography should be sourced to that instead of only the episode.
  • "…but kept the Togruta within sight…"—might be first mentioning Tano is a Togruta upon her first contextualization ("her former Master, the Togruta Ahsoka Tano"); comes a bit out of the blue on its own later on.
    • It feels weird mentioning it at first as there's no apparent reason to, I was trying to find an alternate descriptor rather than just coming back to Jedi. I would just as soon leave it, but I won't die on that hill or anything. Cyborg Commando (talk) 17:38, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
      • It's also fine to stay where it is as an alternate descriptor, just should have the first linkage of it also moved up to where Ahsoka is first linked, so that it doesn't come up a bit spontaneously later on.—spookywillowwtalk 13:41, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
  • On slide 3 of the commentary gallery here, there's a quote by Sabine's actor that would make a good BtS quote + prosified addition to the BtS itself.—spookywillowwtalk 03:40, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
  • Seems like this video indicates soft fur as something to add, as well as the silently judging thing, which also fits under personality and traits.
    • Addressed. I take it there's nothing to be derived from "just a lil baby" or "biiiiiiiiig stretch"? Cyborg Commando (talk) 17:38, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
  • Per precedent, the color of the legs should count as the skin color, to be added to infobox and PT.
  • The BtS should mention the concept art, preferably in a similar fashion to this, by including the artist and the dating from the left corner. Worth also noting the cat's coloration was different in the concept art.—spookywillowwtalk 03:40, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
  • Given the BtS's expansion, there should be space to add the concept art as a BtS image. Also, to avoid unnecessarily short paragraphs, that section's second and third can be merged.
    • So that's how to use an image upload form :p Cyborg Commando (talk) 09:53, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
  • I'd like to see some slight rewording so that the three PT paragraphs don't all start with 'Murley' as the first word; just to promote variety.—spookywillowwtalk 21:15, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
  • (Review note) Copy-edit.
  • Last thing: There's definitely room for another image given the article's been slightly expanded enough to support one, probably one depicting the Tano events, to sit next to the second (or third, but probably second) paragraph.—spookywillowwtalk 20:35, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
    • Third image added. May tinker with the choice of P&T image, as it's similar to the new one, but overall I'm happy with the selection(s). Cyborg Commando (talk) 15:39, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Panther
  • The BtS should really include the TikTok livestream thing that was watching Murley with LoFi music as a countdown to the Ashoka season finale. And it would be good to make the connection that the tweet that first named them was an announcement of that. Panther436 (talk) 14:35, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Editor
  • While it does link to the correct version for now, the Lothcat databank really should include archivedate= since you're using oldversion as part of the template, in case the defacto linked to archive ever changes Editoronthewiki (talk) 20:04, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
    • Sounds good. How do I do that? I know |archivedate= goes at the end, but what determines the string of numbers that comes after? Date? Url? Cyborg Commando (talk) 05:40, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
      • It seems the source was changed so I guess no problem. but for future reference, if using archive.org, you'd use 20201029020545 from the url since thats the date of archive Editoronthewiki (talk) 16:31, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
OOM
  • Fantastic job. Here's my edit. Let me know if you want any clarification. I do think that it's fair to go ahead and use he/him pronouns for Murley, given that it's Filoni who used them, and that it/its were only provided by the Disney+ audio description likely in deference to the character being a pet cat and in lieu of the Ahsoka production itself not giving any pronouns. OOM 224 (he/him) 10:25, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
    • Okay. I've formally updated the infobox and categories. Would it be best to change to he/him from it/its throughout the article as well? Cyborg Commando (talk) 09:06, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
      • Aye, that'd be good as well. OOM 224 (he/him) 10:28, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 18:37, 26 December 2023 (UTC)