Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Mission to Mos Eisley (Galactic Civil War)

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Mission to Mos Eisley (Galactic Civil War)

(4 ACs/3 Users/7 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote Grunny (Talk) 00:24, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Cylka-talk- 06:49, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Chack Jadson (Talk) 21:35, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. —Lucius malfoy7 Nute777 (Give it up for Lil' 'Soka Tano, ladies and gents!) 13:57, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. Darth Trayus Sith Emblem (Trayus Academy) 06:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  6. CC7567 20px-Rex.png (talk) 21:02, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  7. ACvote Graestan(Talk) 13:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Object

  1. Cylka:
    • mission was at first thought to be a success and miracle rescue on the part of Renegade Squadron - Who thought that the mission was a miracle rescue, and why did they think so?
      • At the first cutscene at the end of the level, Col Serra said that it was a miracle rescue and a success, and he doesn't say exactly why but I would assume because the prisoners we so well guarded. Kilson Likes PIE 00:19, 01 March 09 (UTC)
        • Alright, so this needs to be added into the article proper since right now it is only mentioned in the introduction.
    • Who put out the bounty on captured rebels? A bit of context is needed here.
    • Fett was able to disable to capture Ackbar and the Mon Calamarian's surviving crew men. - OK, this sentence needs more context, and I believe that it is missing some information as well. First off, disable what? And were they on a ship? And did some crewmen die when Fett was capturing them?
      • Should of caught that, sorry. And yes, some of the crew did apparently die, becuase Col says during the openning cutscene that Fett sold the surviving crew and droids as slaves and scrap. Kilson Likes PIE 00:19, 01 March 09 (UTC)
        • Fett was able to disable Ackbar's ship over the planet using his ship - How did he use his ship to disable Ackbar's ship? This needs a bit more context.
    • Renegade Squadron needs to have a bit more context in the article proper before you jump into their deployment. This will also explain why they arrived on the Millennium Falcon. You have information about the Squadron exclusive to the introduction. Be careful of that. Whatever is written in the intro must be in the article.
      • You did a great job in introducing Renegade Squadron in the Battle of Korriban article, and I think you should do the same in this article.
    • In the article for the Unidentified Rodian contact here on Wookieepedia, it states that Renegade Squadron captured the cantina where they found the Rodian. Since I'm not sure of the validity of that article, could you please double check that information, and if it is factual, add it into this article.
      • It's factual, they captured it from the Imperials, I will add it. Kilson Likes PIE 00:19, 01 March 09 (UTC)
    • You need to add in the information that the Rebels were sold to the Hutt Cartel a bit earlier.
    • Han Solo needs context. This goes along with my earlier objection about context for the Renegade Squadron.
    • Although the generators were scattered around the city, they were pretty easy to find - Why were they easy to find? Who thought this? This sounds a bit speculative/NPOV, and should be rewritten a bit.
      • During the game, there's bright yellow floating arrows over each generator, and the generators appear on you tactial map too. Now obviously the floating arrows are a game mechanic, but I could put in that Col Serra quickly located the generators for the Squadron. How's that. Kilson Likes PIE 00:19, 01 March 09 (UTC)
    • Please make these changes, and then I'll look over the article again. Cylka-talk- 02:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
    • As the liberated Rebels were rushing to their transport - Where did this transport come from? Did it come with Renegade Squadron? A bit more information is needed here.
    • Renegades destroyed the two Imperial walkers - How did they destroy them? Since this an important part of the rescue, a bit more context is needed.
    • Again, you did a good job in expanding the Battle of Korriban article, and I think that you should try to do the same with this article. Also make sure that all the details are added in. For example, in Wookieepedia's article on Boz Pity, it states that the R2 unit that accompanied Rogue Squadron belonged to Ackbar. While I don't know if this is accurate, small details such as that, can add a great deal to an article. Cylka-talk- 05:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
    • I expanded a little, how about now Kilson likes PIE 17:40, 10 March 09 (UTC)
  2. Grunny's first look:
    • Boba Fett needs some context when first mentioned in the intro.
    • "In the game, right after the Rodian contact agrees to help the player, Col Serra will ask if they can trust him or not. Solo then replies that he knows what happened to the last Rodian to double cross him in this cantina. This is obviously a reference to when Han shot Greedo at the Mos Eisley cantina in Star Wars Episode IV." Can you provide a source where this is confirmed as a reference otherwise this is OR.
      • There is no source, but you can tell it is a reference. I could put in likely or possibly instead of obviously, but I will get rid of it if you really find it necassary, but some things are just so obvious that you don't really need a reference. Kilson likes PIE 19:19, 07 March 09 (UTC)
        • It still reads more like trivia, and doesn't really add to the article. Grunny (Talk) 00:17, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
        • If you really think so, I'll get rid of it. Kilson Likes PIE 20:21, 25 March 09 (UTC)
    • You mention that it occurred during the Galactic Civil War in the intro but not in the history. There should be no info in the intro which isn't also in the article body.
    • You need to clarify that the skirmish was between the Alliance and the Empire in the intro.
    • Ackbar needs context when first mentioned in the "Prelude".
    • "Fett was able to disable Ackbar's ship over the planet using his ship, Slave I, killing some of the crew, and capture the Mon Calamarian and the surviving crew." You need to clarify that Ackbar is the Mon Calamarian, don't assume the readers know who he is. This plays into the previous objection.
    • Han Solo and Col Serra need some context when first mentioned in the "Prelude".
    • Renegade Squadron needs a little context in the intro.
    • I'll re-review after you address these. Grunny (Talk) 08:08, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
      • Check now about the other stuff, and thanks for all the help on the Battle of Koriban :) Kilson likes PIE 19:47, 07 March 09 (UTC)
  3. Cylka, round two:
    • I believe that this article needs to have a "Mission" infobox instead of a battle infobox, since it is stated that this was a mission to rescue prisoners.
    • You state that Serra orders the Renegades to the cantina just to find someone to talk, but in the next paragraph, you talk about how the Squadron captured the cantina. You need to clarify this progression of events.
      • Alright, so why would they want to capture the cantina? This needs to be explained.
        • To find somebody to talk to about the prisoners. Kilson Likes PIE 18:41, 24 March 09 (UTC)
          • Yes, but why capture the cantina, instead of simply going there. Cylka-talk- 17:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
    • Renegade Squadron found a Rodian with rebel sympathies who agreed to take them to where the prisoners were being held. Renegade Squadron followed the Rodian, fending off additional Imperials who were trying to kill the Rodian before he could locate the prisoners - The first sentence makes it seem as if the Rodian knows where the prisoners are, while the second sentence makes it seem as if he is merely helping the Renegades. Please clarify this.
    • When linking in the article, try to add in the proper link, and not a redirect link.
    • This isn't an objection, but maybe an image could be found for the Freeing the prisoners section. Also maybe another quote or two could be found for the article. Cylka-talk- 06:26, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
      • I can't find a Freeing the Prisoners pictures on the web, and I don't have the equipment to make one myself. There aren't many good quotes from that level of the game other that the one I already have up there. I could put up Serra shouting some orders? I addressed the other stuff though. Kilson Likes PIE 1:27, 21 March 09 (UTC)
  4. You need to mention the date in the intro and the body. Otherwise, good work. Chack Jadson (Talk) 22:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Addressed Kilson 10:26, 08 April 09 (UTC)
  5. Graestan the Merciless:
    • I am assuming this article has a conjectural title. If so, please apply the template and decapitalize it in the intro. You could also simply write something more inventive than the name of the article and just bold whatever word describes the subject. If the title is not conjectural, please provide the source for the name and note it, etc.
    • Use some alternatives for "Renegade Squadron," please.
    • Less overall detail of the action. The freeing of the prisoners could be fit into one compound sentence, for instance.
    • Graestan(Talk) 17:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
  6. Toprawa:
    • I don't understand why this article is a "skirmish" yet uses a "Mission" infobox. Either the article should be moved to "Mission to Tatooine" or something, or a different infobox should be used. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
      • I chose skirmish because there are already several other pages on Wookieepedia with Mission to Tatooine in their titles, many of which take place in the Galactic Civil War. A reader might get confused with all the different pages with similar names. As for the infobox, I really don't know what to do. Cylka told me to use a Mission infobox instead of a battle infobox, and what other conflict infobox is out there besides those two. Kilson Likes PIE 11:49, 09 April 09 (UTC)
        • I really don't care which you choose, but it should be one or the other for uniformity, though it seems like this should be under "Mission to Tatooine," regardless of how many others there are. Just come up with a new parenthetical description. Toprawa and Ralltiir 03:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  7. See Graestan's first objection; I'd like to restate it. "Mission" can simply be bolded, since the article is conjecturally titled. Other than that, the article looks fine. —CC7567 20px-Rex.png (talk) 06:19, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 13:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)