- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was successful. Please do not modify it.
Misha Vekkian
- Nominated by: Jinzler 21:59, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Not your typical Imperial Navy officer
(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)
Support
- Grunny's objections look like they're fixed. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 04:43, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Nice work, Jinzler. Grunny (Talk) 15:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Cylka-talk- 23:31, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
—Tommy
(Nine two eight one) 22:14, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Object
The P&A at the moment is painfully short, and detracts from the overall good quality of the article. Expand into a few sentences rather than just list the powers, and perhaps include her lightsaber tactics in that section. Grunny (Talk) 02:27, 14 February 2009 (UTC)- Expanded --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the first and last sentence could still be worded better, with more complex sentence structure. For example, in the first sentence you could word it something like: "Vekkian was able to use the ancient technique of battle meditation, preferring to employ it before entering combat.". Or something similar, and do the same with the last sentence. Grunny (Talk) 09:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)- I have reworded it --Jinzler 14:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Expanded --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Soresu
After Admiral Gilder Varth betrayed the location of an Alderaanian Resistance taskforce that was waiting near Coruscant, an Imperial taskforce under the command of Inquisitor Valin Draco was sent to destroy it and Vekkian and her squad accompanied them. Break the sentence up.- Fixed --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
A bit of context on the Inquisitorius would be nice.SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 21:32, 14 February 2009 (UTC)- Added --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Grunny's second look
Per SoresuMakashi.The Alderaanian Resistance needs some context in the intro and the bio.- Added --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Admiral Gilder Varth needs some more context. How was he able to get the information to betray them?- Added --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Also, need more context on Denia and her having previously helped the Alderaanian Resistance fighters.- Added --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
"On board it, she was present with her squad in the frigate's landing bay, just as Draco left the ship in his shuttle with Jedi Master Denia, whom he had just captured." This sentence could be worded better.- Fixed --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
"She never forgot any slight that she perceived to be against her and was vindictive and knew no mercy." The use of two "and"s so close together is awkward so reword. You could add in spiteful as well, same as the source.- Fixed --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Describe her physical appearance in the P&t, i.e. tall, athletic build, close-cropped blond hair, and blue eyes.- Added --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
May be worth a mention in the P&t that the troops under her command wouldn't try to take her down as it was almost like she could read their minds.- Added --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Mention the result of the battle, i.e. the defeat of the Imperial Naval troopers, escape of the Alderaanian Resistance, and the destruction of the Resurgence. Also, since the Conclusion in the source states the enemy is vanquished and the Resurgence destroyed with Alderaanian Resistance fighters escaping, wasn't Vekkian killed? I know it says that she did in the article for the Battle of the Resurgence, so please check to see if that is suggested in the source.- I added something on the result of the battle. However, the naval troopers aren't necessarily defeated as, page 11 of the source describes what can happen If the troopers are defeated, suggesting that it is possible for them not to be. Even though the Resurgence is destroyed, that doesn't mean Vekkian is killed. This is RPG so anything could happen, she could be captured by the player characters or could escape in the shuttle. As it does not state that she is killed, we can't assume that that is what happens --Jinzler 21:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Grunny (Talk) 18:37, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Cylka:
I think that adding in that the Alderaanian Resistance was an anti-Imperial group, in both the intro and article body, would add a lot of context.- Added --20:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
In the second paragraph of the biography, I believe it would be better to A few months after the end of the Clone Wars - to something about the formation of the Empire, since that was what the previous paragraph ended on, and the focus of the Alderaanian Resistance.- Fixed --Jinzler 20:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
became some of the meanest men in the Imperial Navy - Can you expand a bit on this? Why were they considered the meanest, and who considered them the meanest?- The source doesn't really say, so I have rephrased this --Jinzler 20:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Her squad was scared of her and thought that it would not be unwise for them to try and take her down, as they believed that she could read their minds. - This is a bit confusing. Did her squad want to eliminate her or not?- I think they didn't and that this was meant to be a reason why they didn't, I have tried to clarify this --Jinzler 20:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, you have clarified this, however you have added that she could read their minds, when before you had stated that they only believed that she could read their minds. Could you clarify this please. Cylka-talk- 03:49, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- I have changed they knew to they believed, to show that they thought this, rather than her definitly being able to do this --Jinzler 16:28, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, you have clarified this, however you have added that she could read their minds, when before you had stated that they only believed that she could read their minds. Could you clarify this please. Cylka-talk- 03:49, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think they didn't and that this was meant to be a reason why they didn't, I have tried to clarify this --Jinzler 20:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- Good work, Jinzler. Cylka-talk- 18:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- Toprawa:
The intro and the bio mention that the Alderaanian task force was sent to wait near Coruscant. Can we provide some context for exactly what they were there for? Sabotage, etc.?- Added this --Jinzler 21:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Excellent work otherwise. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:17, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- Tommy Appleseed:'
Like the objection on Nolor, shouldn't Misa Vekkian have a Dark Jedi infobox?- She does now --Jinzler 22:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
"However, after the end of the conflict, she was discovered by the Inquisitorius," This statement needs to be sourced, as it was done in Nolor.- Oops, I forgot to do this, but I have done it now --Jinzler 22:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
"When in combat, her favored tactic was to deflect the blaster bolts fired at her by an enemy, while she got close enough to them to engage them in hand-to-hand combat with her lightsaber." How can it be considered hand-to-hand if she was fighting with her lightsaber?- Rephrased --Jinzler 22:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- Not bad.—Tommy
(Nine two eight one) 02:49, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Comments
- Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 22:14, 16 March 2009 (UTC)