Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Madam Rhoden

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Madam Rhoden

(+5)

Support

  1. Yrfeloran 03:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
  2. --Eyrezer 11:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
  3. Greyman(Talk) 18:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  4. Darth Xadún(Consult the Holocron) 08:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
  5. Odd, but informative. Chack Jadson (Talk) 20:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. It should probably have some more pics. --Eyrezer 06:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
    • More pics added. Yrfeloran 19:13, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
  2. From the Gatekeeper of Xadún's holocron:
    • The opening sentence requires refinement, as 'woman' is a term usually associated with Human females, and we know nothing of where she was from. Suggest 'Mdam Rhoden was a female of an unidentified species and hailed from Yorn Skot', with a link to unidentified species, then go on to describing family ties etc.
      • Eh, if you can use women for Tuskens, I don't see that this is an issue. Yrfeloran 18:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
        • I think you've misunderstood me. My point was that it is a fairly non-descript way of opening an article. Using your Tusken example, the opening gives the name, alternate terms, and their hailing planet in the first line. This is the basic format for character articles, naming species and homeworld or world of residence. Hence, see my example above.
          • The issue is that that forcing "female of unidentified species" in there is both clunky writing and kind of unnecessary. I've done some adjustments and linked 'List of unidentified species' in the infobox. Yrfeloran 22:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
    • The intro does not mention the confrontation with Rhoden's husband, the detonation of the bomb or her subsequent death.
      • Changed to explicitly mention the confrontation, but she didn't die. Yrfeloran 18:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Remove the link from 'Lot 44C'. The redlink looks untidy and to give the lot an article in it's own right would be pointless.
    • The following quotes all appear to switch between italics and normal text at unusual places. Granted, this may be from the text, but i can't check that. -
      • "I've seen enough core bombs in my life to know what I saw. That kind of detonator can only trigger high-yield explosives on a chromium switch, and only core bombs use remotely triggered chromium fuses."
      • "Can't you see I'm talking to the lovely -- and might I add potentially independently wealthy beyond her wildest dreams -- young lady here?"
      • " First, I'm going to take your mining station to cover what you owe me." "Then I'm going to take everything else." "And then I'm going to give it all back to her for being so doggone lovely ".
      • From the text Yrfeloran 18:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
    • "At that point, the group of pressure pirates who had been plotting to steal the vessel showed up, and began to board it." Change this sentence please, as 'showed up' is a poor description for an encyclopedia.
    • I am assuming the second bomb core killed all aboard the Aurorient Express, and no-one escaped? Please confirm this at the end of the article.
      • Uh, no, I mentioned everybody was evacuated. Yrfeloran 18:48, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
        • Sorry, misreading on my part.
    • "Madam Rhoden was attached to her possessions and what she felt were her possession, such as her chaughaine sweater and the Aurorient Express itself." Revise this sentence - it is unencyclopeadic. I recommend breaking it into two, first saying she was attatched to her possessions, and second saying she believed she had ownership oveer things that belonged to her spouses or lovers.
      • Eh, tweaked.Yrfeloran 01:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
    • I would say that the P&t section could be expanded. Refer to her seduction of men for financial gain, her attractiveness to other males, etc.
      • There's really no seduction involved. Moegantz apparently just likes being treated like crap. Yrfeloran 01:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
        • Ok then.
    • Otherwise, pretty good. Additional kudos for the use of 'unbeknownst' in the article! Darth Xadún(Consult the Holocron) 11:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
  3. "However, the Captain of the Aurorient Express, unwilling to be complicit in the destruction of the station, detonated the bomb aboard the empty life pod early." The article doesn't explain how/why the Captain had the detonator. --Eyrezer 23:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
  4. I'd also appreciate a description somewhere of Rhoden's appearance. The BTS might be the appropriate place for it, perhaps mentioning the species has not been identified but its similar to X or Y. --Eyrezer 23:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

  • Arguments about the article's title start here. Yrfeloran 03:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)