Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Kurt

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Kurt

(4 AC/2 users/6 total)

Support

  1. Inqvote --Eyrezer 20:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
  2. ACvote Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 12:27, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
  3. Soresumakashi 01:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
  4. Kind regards, Pranay Sobusk ~ Talk to me 12:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
  5. Inqvote Greyman(Talk) 16:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:23, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Humans (first sentence) should be capitalized. Soresumakashi 12:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
  2. Aqua
    • This sentence is a bit confusing to me, but then again I'm a complete TOTJ inept. Is this end clause "refusing to be enslaved by such and such" referring to the Beast Riders or the city dwellers? The Beast Riders had risen up against the dark side-worshiping city-dwellers, who were led by the sorceress-Queen Amanoa, and had refused to be enslaved by the memory of a deceased Dark Lord of the Sith named Freedon Nadd.

Objection(s) overridden by AgriCorps 16:02, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

  2. Pranay Sobusk
    • The sentence: Kurt was the Flight leader of several squads, or "wings",... confused me. What was he? The flight leader of several squads or the flight leader of several wings?
      • Addressed.
    • I'd like to see the section "Early life" and "Battle of Iziz" merged into one biography section, because the two-line section does not look really good in my opinion. Kind regards, Pranay Sobusk ~ Talk to me 15:16, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
  3. The BtS needs a little work. It seems to assume the reader knows what it's talking about. E.g. "the audio drama" needs to be fleshed out and explained. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
  4. Toprawa:
    • I can't begin to understand why you're using a GFFA character infobox for a TOTJ character. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:16, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
    • If Kurt's forces are fighting from the air, "overrun" doesn't really fit. This is more befitting of a ground-based attack. Please reword: "Kurt's forces successfully overran the defensive towers that lined Iziz's northern wall"
      • Addressed.
    • In the context of an aerial attack, "fighters" seems to infer starfighters, when this is not the case. Please reword "fighters" to something more appropriate: "Kurt then led his fighters in an attack against the eastern wall"
      • Addressed.
    • Perhaps I am just unfamiliar with this, but the word "forsaken" doesn't seem appropriate here. Something along the lines of "discarded" or "dismounted" or something seems to fit better, no? "who had forsaken his flying beast to lead the ground forces"
      • Addressed.
    • Does any source consistently capitalize "Palace" in this manner? If not, this should be lowercase: "and bombard the Palace roof with counterfire"
      • Addressed.
    • Nothing in this article ever introduces anything as being affiliated with the Naddists. This should be done before dropping this mention in here so late in the article: "who managed to defeat the Naddist forces with assistance from several"
      • Addressed.
    • Ok, your quote of Gobee "ordering Kurt" to lay down suppressing fire doesn't really seem to match up with what have you in the article. In the quote, it doesn't seem like Gobee is directly ordering Kurt at all, but instead is blindly yelling for anyone to come to assistance, and Kurt just happens to respond. I think your article should reflect this, rather than saying Kurt responded to a direct order.
      • Addressed.
        • You changed two words in the quote attribution, which doesn't satisfy what I was objecting to in any way. The article should be tweaked to represent what the quote is telling us. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
          • Simply put, Gobee made an order (to whoever at that point), and Kurt answered. You may want to then specify the exact line in the article you feel needs changing. The events are laid out exactly as they appear in the audio, and changing it will make the article unsatisfactory in my opinion. I am not adverse to removing the quote entirely, to satisfy your objection. Gobee was not "blindly yelling" at anyone, and you may need to listen to the audio yourself to gain a better understanding of the events as they unfold. Please advise if you would like the quote removed, and I will do so promptly.—Tommy9281 Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 16:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
            • My concern is that your description, "With no other options, Gobee commed Kurt, telling him to discontinue his assault on the east wall," makes it seem as if he is specifically contacting Kurt, asking for his explicit help. This does not equal the quote's description-"Somebody lay some suppressing fire along that rooftop! I got ground troops taking heavy fire up there!"-which clearly shows by the use of the terminology "Somebody" that he is blindly yelling to anyone for assistance, not Kurt specifically. Kurt simply responded to the call for help. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:26, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
    • I think it would be more appropriate to just merge the "Abilities" section into the P/T, since "Abilities" isn't really a section we use for non-Force characters.
      • Addressed.
    • Given that his name never appears in any official text, as I'm assuming, I think it would be best to leave some kind of note in the BTS explaining the article spells his name as such based on pure assumption of the most common OOU spelling of the name "Kurt."
      • Addressed.
    • If Kurt only appears fleetingly in two lines, I'm curious where the information comes from that he is a Human and native to Onderon. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:26, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
      • He's a Beast Rider; all of which were explicitly said to be natives of Onderon, and Human. That can be sourced several times over, if you like.—Tommy9281 Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 06:09, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Vote to strike Aqua Unasi's objection (AgriCorps only)

  1. Has been seemingly abandoned despite being addressed.—Tommy9281Red lightsaber (Peace is a lie) 23:00, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 16:02, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


  • I don't think Anderson had anything to do with the audio dramas, and I believe they were written by John Whitman. Please look into this/correct as necessary. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 15:31, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Indeed, you are correct, Ackbar. I've went ahead and made the change for you, Tommy :) Greyman(Talk) 16:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)