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Ko Solok

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:56, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:

(4 ACs/2 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Note my final edit. And I want to see him next. ;) Clone Commander Lee Talk 11:49, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
  2. ACvote CC7567 (talk) 19:26, May 1, 2014 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 12:19, May 7, 2014 (UTC)
  4. 501st dogma(talk) 11:07, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:57, May 12, 2014 (UTC)
  6. ACvote Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 23:02, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Object

Lee's charge
  • Solok was selected as part of a task force: Should this be "Solok was selected to be part of a task force"? I'm not sure if the way you say it is correct.
  • Link for the fight at Yellowblade's Landing?
  • You say 20 BBY in the infobox and around 20 BBY in the body.
  • Is it mentioned that he constructed the lightsaber himself? It could be a gift from his master etc.
  • Is it mentioned that he was a General or is this just an assumption based on his status as a Jedi Master?
    • I thought I remembered a source saying all Jedi Masters were made generals, but there are actually exceptions, so removed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 15:21, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
  • and after sighting them Koon ordered that Solok, along with his fellow Master and team member Grohto, organise a search of the surrounding settlement: Something is wrong here IMHO.
  • The P&t is more like a "Powers and abilities" section.
  • Could we get another picture for the body?
    • Added his death. Ayrehead02 (talk) 15:21, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
      • Good, but by WP:Images: "Speech bubbles should ideally be cropped out of an image. If it is not possible to crop them out, the text in the bubbles should be left in if the bubble is intact. If the bubble is cut off, the text should be removed. " Clone Commander Lee Talk 15:35, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
        • Fixed for both images. Good catch. Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:13, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • Nice article. Clone Commander Lee Talk 14:28, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
  • No spoken lines or any other stuff for the P&t section? Clone Commander Lee Talk 15:35, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
    • Added. There isn't much else relevant to him. Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:04, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
Clone fly-by
  • This image is of poor quality—you can see the white frame around the panel—and needs to be replaced. CC7567 (talk) 16:44, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
    • Oh, I thought the frames were ok if the image overlapped into them. Changed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 19:14, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
  • "Solok had obtained a green-bladed lightsaber and obtained the rank of Jedi Master." Could you change this so that you don't use obtained twice in the same sentence?
  • In the biography, I think it would be best to mention all members of the strike team when it is introduced. I found it rather confusing trying to find out who was on the team.
  • I just want to make sure, but did the comic show that Maul's kick did not make physical contact with Solok? If he made physical contact, then it would not be a force kick.
    • Hmm, it doesn't show that physical contact was made, but the shot is just after the kick so it doesn't prove that it definitely wasn't. Removed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:12, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
  • The equipment section makes it sound like he wore both cold weather gear and Jedi robes at the same time. Is this correct?
  • Just a note for future articles, organization and analyzed are spelled with a "z" in American English.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 20:40, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
  • Reference 1 should be split into two sentences.
  • Now that I think about it, you probably don't need to mention his lightsaber in the biography.
  • "The trio waited there while the others headed deeper into the base, where they were soon attacked by Maul, who leapt through a window and kicked Solok as the Sith entered the chamber." Please split this sentence.
  • "before they escaped with a hostage they had found incarcerated in the base." Please make it clear who escaped with the hostage.
  • Due to the small amount of information, a separate Powers and abilities section is not necessary. Please merge the information with the P&T.
  • Note, Force should always be capitalized when referring to The Force. Padawan should also be capitalized. I fixed them this time, but please keep an eye out for things like this in the future.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 03:06, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
  • The paragraphs in the biography section seem rather large to me. Could you break them up into either three or four smaller sections?--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 23:27, April 25, 2014 (UTC)
  • In the last sentence of the first paragraph of the biography you use "as well as" twice. Please reword this.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 03:50, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
Attack of the Clone
  • Please reread the opening quote's caption and check for errors.
    • Should be ok now. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:12, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
      • Proofread, please. Another error slipped in with your revision. CC7567 (talk) 14:43, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
        • Assuming it was the Opress misspell its fixed. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:51, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
  • The leading quote and Bio quote captions can be more interesting and give more context, instead of "[x] gives orders to [y] and [z]." For starters, which event is each quote referring to?
  • "Solok and Jun-Fan were both killed by Maul in the fight, who then escaped with Opress.'" The second dependent clause ("who then escaped with Opress") isn't working right now because for it to be worded like that, the subject of that clause ("Maul") needs to be at the very end of the first independent clause, instead of "the fight."
  • Massacre on Yellowblade's Landing needs to be linked at the appropriate place.
  • In general, the Bio can be beefed up with a lot more information. What ship did Solok and the other Jedi take to Yellowblade's Landing? What ship(s) did Maul and Opress use throughout the events of the comic? What about the involvement of Captain Mojo and the clone troopers in the comic? They're not mentioned anywhere. What were Maul and Opress after on Yellowblade's Landing? Why were they stealing gold on Pleem's Nexus? In either case, did the Jedi discover their objectives? These are just some initial questions; there are other details that should be incorporated as well. I'd recommend rereading the comic and incorporating more detail—there's a lot more that can be added to the Bio, as well as the intro.
    • Ok added a fair bit. Is it enough? Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:12, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
      • Several things: Consular-class cruiser needs to be formatted properly with italics, and the exact model needs to be linked instead. Clone trooper captain needs to be linked instead of captain in regards to Mojo. The article for Maul's specific Turtle Tanker needs to be linked. Your linking in regards to Sith and starship needs to be checked in light of your additions. Creatures such as wampa are decapitalized unless source material specifically refers to them by a capitalized name. There's also a typo in regards to Opress's name. Most of these errors are little things that I'd normally take care of myself under {{Sofixit}}, but please take note of them—since you've been writing and reviewing articles for a while now, I'd expect you next time to be able to catch these. I'm not expecting perfection (none of us is perfect), but in general, it doesn't hurt to proofread an extra time before submitting an edit. CC7567 (talk) 14:43, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
        • Wow your mastery of linking is a lot better than mine, I didn't realise a bunch of those more specific pages existed. Thanks for pointing them out I'll be more mindful of linking in future, and I do need to proofread more. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:51, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
  • I've liked lightsaber combat in the P&A, but it should be mentioned and linked earlier, somewhere in the Bio.
    • Added. Ayrehead02 (talk) 13:12, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
      • Please also check your linking of lightsaber in the article. Darth Maul's lightsaber can be linked in regards to Maul's specific weapon. In addition, lightsaber duel needs to be linked somewhere. CC7567 (talk) 14:43, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
        • Link maul's lightsaber (I thought we deleted all individual lightsaber articles a while back). I didn't realise we had separate articles for duel and combat, but is linking duel technically correct? None of the fights are actually described as duels and if we just count any lightsaber fight as a duel then we should merge combat and duel surely? Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:51, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
          • Media doesn't have to specifically say something is a duel for it to be a duel, which is when two opponents cross lightsabers for an extended period of time. Lightsaber combat refers to the various combat forms (referring to practice as well), while the lightsaber duel article refers to the specific event. CC7567 (talk) 03:48, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
  • "Solok was a Force-sensitive male Gran": this bit in the P&T is restating information that you've already presented in the Bio. Unless there's a good reason for the repetition, please remove it.
  • I'll take another look once you've addressed these objections. CC7567 (talk) 15:39, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
  • As I asked for your Cho'na Bene nom, please check your verb conjugation in regards to "lead." This appears to be a bad habit, so I'd suggest proofreading more next time.
    • Oops, clearly need to work on my use of that word. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:51, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
  • Please limit your usage of "then," since overusing it can add an unnecessary feeling of play-by-play wording. CC7567 (talk) 14:43, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
    • Changed two of the five. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:51, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
  • The P&T (or P&A) can mention something to the effect of the fact that Solok was skilled enough to reach the rank of Jedi Master. CC7567 (talk) 14:44, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
    • Added. It didn't seem worth splitting them still. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:51, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
  • "surrounding settlement": article? CC7567 (talk) 01:35, April 25, 2014 (UTC)
    • Added link. Will probably write it soon. Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:01, April 26, 2014 (UTC)
501st
  • A small thing: "Around 20 BBY, during the Clone Wars—fought between the Republic and the Confederacy of Independent Systems—Solok had achieved the rank of Jedi Master." The "around" doesn't really work with the "had" here. Could we say prior to 20 BBY? Or Prior to approximately 20 BBY? 501st dogma(talk) 18:06, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 23:06, May 12, 2014 (UTC)