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Jenks (Imperial)
- Nominated by: QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 10:55, March 31, 2018 (UTC) - Nomination comments: Probably the most bizarre contradiction that the creators of the audio drama have created so far.
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Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:30, April 15, 2018 (UTC)- Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:14, April 16, 2018 (UTC)
1358 (Talk) 21:31, April 18, 2018 (UTC)- grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 03:25, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
- Tommy Macaroni 17:49, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
- Nice work on all these Dark Empire articles! - AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:50, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
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Toprawa
Bio subsectioning would be nice.- Done. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 09:58, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
- Done. QuiGonJinn
Those are digital images?Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:31, April 12, 2018 (UTC)- Indeed they are. I don't know why the quality of the digital edition of this series is so shitty, but I guess the source material isn't that great to begin with. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 09:58, April 13, 2018 (UTC)
- Indeed they are. I don't know why the quality of the digital edition of this series is so shitty, but I guess the source material isn't that great to begin with. QuiGonJinn
Can we call them "Jedi Knights" here? It would read better to avoid the repetition with the second use of "Jedi" later in the sentence, but I wasn't sure if the referencing worked: "which the Jedi Luke Skywalker and Kam Solusar had encountered on the planet Ossus"- We definitely can. They call themselves Jedi Knights all the time in the comic series. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 20:21, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
- We definitely can. They call themselves Jedi Knights all the time in the comic series. QuiGonJinn
I'm curious why you place a dash at the end of the P/T quote, given that it's from the audio drama and not visibly evident like in the comic. Can that line not just end in a period?- Well, in the audio drama Jenks is interrupted mid-sentence by Solo and Brand walking in. In comics, a dash is usually used in such situations, so I suppose I subconsciously got used to it and thus formatted it this way. It does work with a comma as well, though. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 20:21, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
- Well, in the audio drama Jenks is interrupted mid-sentence by Solo and Brand walking in. In comics, a dash is usually used in such situations, so I suppose I subconsciously got used to it and thus formatted it this way. It does work with a comma as well, though. QuiGonJinn
There's no period at the end of the BTS quote?- Missed it. There is. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 20:21, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
- Missed it. There is. QuiGonJinn
You should be able to add a quote to the second subsection I've added to the BTS. Maybe the Han's line threatening to give her to Chewbacca?Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:46, April 15, 2018 (UTC)- Added. Thank you for the copy-edit, as well. I'm still getting used to the idea of using so many images in such brief articles due to Oasis now being the default skin. I promise that I'll get the hang of it soon. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 20:21, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
- No problem. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:30, April 15, 2018 (UTC)
- Added. Thank you for the copy-edit, as well. I'm still getting used to the idea of using so many images in such brief articles due to Oasis now being the default skin. I promise that I'll get the hang of it soon. QuiGonJinn
Ayrehead
Could you swap out the P&T quote for one from the comic rather than the audio drama since there are so many inconsistencies between the two.Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:48, April 16, 2018 (UTC)- Swapped. It's the same quote, but without the second part. I just thought the audio drama's version was more threatening, but I'm with either. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 19:51, April 16, 2018 (UTC)
- Swapped. It's the same quote, but without the second part. I just thought the audio drama's version was more threatening, but I'm with either. QuiGonJinn
AV
Preliminary question: should we really be listing this guy as part of the original Galactic Empire? All we know is that he was loyal to the Dark Empire.- AV-6R7Crew Pit 00:04, April 19, 2018 (UTC)- Removed it. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 07:57, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't agree with removing this. The Essential Atlas (see pages 201-205) probably does the best job of explaining the relationship between the Dark Empire and the Galactic Empire proper. It's a bit confusing, but basically, after Endor, the Empire splinters into "little empires," most of which temporarily unify under Thrawn and then later the reborn Emperor. To quote TEA, pg. 204: The surviving members of the Emperor's Ruling Council signed on next, and they brought aboard the Moffs and fleet commanders who ruled the Empire proper in the wake of Thrawn's death. Most factions within Palpatine's alliance hated one another, but their unified assault brought the New Republic to its knees. So while the Dark Empire is its own entity (and fairly deserves its own article), it's nonetheless part of the Galactic Empire proper. Perhaps the best solution here is to list Dark Empire as a sub-bullet of Galactic Empire. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:00, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
- I'd agree with this solution. Would Imperial Remenant similarly sit between the two, had we not decided to limit the amount of sub-affiliations in an infobox? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:33, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
- I think no, as the Imperial Remnant seems to have formed in 12 ABY, after the reborn Emperor's final defeat. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:36, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
- I'd agree with this solution. Would Imperial Remenant similarly sit between the two, had we not decided to limit the amount of sub-affiliations in an infobox? - AV-6R7Crew Pit 17:33, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't agree with removing this. The Essential Atlas (see pages 201-205) probably does the best job of explaining the relationship between the Dark Empire and the Galactic Empire proper. It's a bit confusing, but basically, after Endor, the Empire splinters into "little empires," most of which temporarily unify under Thrawn and then later the reborn Emperor. To quote TEA, pg. 204: The surviving members of the Emperor's Ruling Council signed on next, and they brought aboard the Moffs and fleet commanders who ruled the Empire proper in the wake of Thrawn's death. Most factions within Palpatine's alliance hated one another, but their unified assault brought the New Republic to its knees. So while the Dark Empire is its own entity (and fairly deserves its own article), it's nonetheless part of the Galactic Empire proper. Perhaps the best solution here is to list Dark Empire as a sub-bullet of Galactic Empire. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:00, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
- Removed it. QuiGonJinn
Comments
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 17:51, April 19, 2018 (UTC)
- The voice actor portraying him (her?) in the audio drama is unknown. QuiGonJinn (Talk) 10:55, March 31, 2018 (UTC)