- The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a good article nomination that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.
Inexorable (Imperial I-class)
- Nominated by: Hk 47 21:32, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
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- Hey there! Welcome to the GAN page. Good to see you nominating an article for status, HK. With that said, here are a few preliminary things:
Per the layout guide, all vehicle articles should have "Characteristics" and "Role" sections in addition to "History." The intro should be lengthened, too, what with all the new info you'll have to put in the body.- There are some sourcing issues --- you mention Grand Admiral Thrawn and source it to Wedge's Gamble. That ain't right.
- Can you stick Thrawn's confederation into the "affiliation" field of the infobox (and find a place for it in the article body, too)?
- All book names should be italicized in "Behind the scenes."
- For the "Sources" section: All info from the Heir to the Empire Sourcebook was repeated in The Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook. Also, have you checked The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia?
- The second paragraph of Behind the scenes contains some speculation. Phrases such as "There is some confusion" and "suggesting that" are a bit weasly. Is it really a continuity error? Isn't it possible that Thrawn just sent the ship back to the Empire or something?
- I recommend giving the article a good copy-edit to fix some grammar and punctuation mistakes. For example, the intro states: "It was best known for his role..." His?
- Giving context on people, places, and things is important. Who is Shannon Voorson? What are the Chimaera, the Nemesis and the Stormhawk? Who are Ace Azzameen, Ysanne Isard, etc? Go through the article with an eye for what's missing context.
- Per the Layout Guide, only the individual issues of the Heir to the Empire comic that this ship appeared in should be listed in the "Appearances" section.
- In the infobox, you should add a location or battle after the date in "Earliest sighting" and "Latest sighting."
- More details should be given on the battles in which the ship participated.
- Good luck working through these prelims --- the article needs quite a bit of expansion with the two more necessary sections. It will most likely end up being more than a thousand words. You can do it! Menkooroo 21:53, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Do you think it's a good idea to add Thrawn's confederation (it's me who wrote the page) in the affiliation. It never was a true entity and Thraw only used the ships of the loyal Imperial forces in his campaings. And can you check in the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, I can't verify in mine for the moment. Hk 47 00:32, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
- Thrawn's Confederation is a true entity according to The Essential Atlas. Here's the Encyclopedia entry --- you can add it to the sources section like this: {{CSWECite|II||Inexorable (3)}}
This Imperial-I-class Star Destroyer was part of the small Imperial fleet that was commanded by Admiral Thrawn after the Battle of Endor. It later became part of his own fleet following his reemergence as a Grand Admiral. It was one of the Star Destroyers used to attack Bpfassh. Thrawn also used the Inexorable to test a prototype cloaking device, after getting schematics from the Emperor's storehouse on Wayland.
- Thrawn's Confederation is a true entity according to The Essential Atlas. Here's the Encyclopedia entry --- you can add it to the sources section like this: {{CSWECite|II||Inexorable (3)}}
- Do you think it's a good idea to add Thrawn's confederation (it's me who wrote the page) in the affiliation. It never was a true entity and Thraw only used the ships of the loyal Imperial forces in his campaings. And can you check in the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, I can't verify in mine for the moment. Hk 47 00:32, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
- Have you resolved the above objections? It looks like you've resolved a few,
but a "Role" section is still missing.Let me know which one's you've resolved. Here are some more:- In "Behind the scenes," the sentence beginning with "It is very unlikely that" is even more speculative than the other sentences. We're to report on the facts, not to make assumptions.
- A lot of context is still missing. I highly recommend giving it a very careful readthrough and trying to figure out what needs explaining. Write the article as if someone who isn't familiar with the subject is reading it. What is a TIE complement? What is the Battle of Endor? etc. Menkooroo 05:42, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
- Can you correct the Behind the scenes, I don't know how to explain it better. What must I put in the role section ? It looks like the description section. Hk 47 18:06, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
- Bah, my mistake. "Role" isn't for individual starships; "Description" is. Sorry! You have it right. Menkooroo 20:48, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
- Can you correct the Behind the scenes, I don't know how to explain it better. What must I put in the role section ? It looks like the description section. Hk 47 18:06, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
- An important note that if you've addressed my previous objections, you need to let me know here.
- The information in "History" needs to be a lot more detailed. I recommend reading some of the Starships on Wookieepedia:Good articles in order to get an idea of the kind of detail and context that are needed on battles, situations, etc. A single sentence on the Battle of Sluis Van isn't enough. Menkooroo 02:18, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Lee's charge
Intro needs to be expanded.Your history section quote implies that Major Wortin served aboard the ship, making him a crewmember. Therefore he needs to be in the infobox.Therefore a "Commanders and crew" section would be neccessary.Description: It was a 1,600 meters long warship armed with turbolasers, ion cannons and tractor beam projectors. It also carried a complement of starfighters, terrestrial troops and various ground vehicles.: Please change one "it".History: Context for the Rebel Alliance, e.g. that they were fighting against the Empire.History: Context for Thrawn.- All for now. Clone Commander Lee Talk 09:58, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
- Ok I think it's done. Can someone correct the spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes, my english is not perfect, I'm French. Hk 47 18:55, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure if I'm the right choise. I'm German :P Clone Commander Lee Talk 11:36, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
- Ok I think it's done. Can someone correct the spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes, my english is not perfect, I'm French. Hk 47 18:55, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
- Grand Admiral Thrawn is mentioned in the body and therefore should not be linked in the opening quote.
- Same for the "Commanders and crew" section.
- Slight context for the Galactic Civil War and the Rebel Alliance in the intro, preferably in one sentence.
- Description: Context for the Battle of Endor and TIEs.
- I'll give another look once these are fixed. Clone Commander Lee Talk 11:36, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Cav
- Some more possible sources to check for info/ mentions; The Official Star Wars Fact File, Star Wars: X-Wing Alliance: Prima's Official Strategy Guide, A Guide to the Star Wars Universe (all editions). - Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 14:15, January 9, 2012 (UTC) - Also, in the BTS: Star Wars: X-wing Alliance classifies the Accuser as an Imperial II-class Star Destroyer. Why is this here? Do you mean Inexorable in place of Accuser? - Cavalier One(Squadron channel) 14:18, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes of course, a mistake! Hk 47 14:27, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
