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Gira

  • Nominated by: Jedi Kasra (comlink) 22:37, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: The guy kills himself after Darth Vader betrays him, heh…

(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Pre-nom reviewed. —Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 22:45, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
  2. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 01:54, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
  3. --Demos Traxen 02:08, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 19:43, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:36, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
  6. ACvote CC7567 (talk) 22:12, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Object

  1. Soresu
    • managed to survive the Great Jedi Purge The Great Jedi Purge was an extended extermination of the Jedi. This event would have been part of it. It would be more correct to say he survived Order 66, or, as you have done in the intro, the initial stages.
  2. The Grand Master
    • "The Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Vader eventually found Gira and the Padawans aboard a starship which was assisting them." This is rather confusing. How was the starship assissting them? (Also clarify this in the bio)
      • Please try it.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 04:53, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
        • Okay, but now it sounds like the ship is sentient. I'm assuming that the crew of the ship (or at least the commander) was who was really aiding them, no?
    • "…but was betrayed by Vader when the Sith ordered the ship's commander to…" The commander of what ship? (The betrayal isn't very clear here, so this is rather confusing)
    • When dueling Vader, what do you mean Gira was "being drawn to the dark side of the Force?"
      • This was in the story, it explains that Gira was being slowly drawn to it during his duel with Vader.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 17:43, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
    • "…realizing that his destiny was to fail at both his duty and himself…" What do you mean by "fail at himself?"
    • Could you make an article for this battle?
      • Don't see how, the battle hasn't been mentioned in any other in-universe source. The CSWE says this took place on a ship, so would I title it Battle aboard an unidentified ship?--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 04:53, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
        • That could work. It's definitely a main event in Gira's life; I think you should at least make a stub for it.
    • Could you make an article for the ship commander?
      • We don't know anything about this commander, or if the commander is a man, woman, or anything.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 04:53, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
        • We know that the commander commanded a ship that aided a group of Jedi during the Great Jedi Purge. We know that Vader attacked them, and that the commander betrayed the Jedi when he realized that the Jedi wouldn't be able to fend off the Imperials. We don't need to know the commander's species or gender for an article about him/her/it.
    • Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 18:52, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
      • Thanks for the review, Jon.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 18:59, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
        • No problem.
    • Just one more quick question; the events here are a little unclear. Does the first "he" refer to Gira? Do you mean the stormtrooper corpses? "After he defeated the stormtroopers there, the ship's commander told the Gira that Vader had just entered the ship and was seven hundred meters away from the Jedi's position. Gira noticed that the corpses on the ground were shot through their backs; when he asked the commander about this, Vader ambushed the Jedi." Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 19:13, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
      • Please try it.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:25, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
        • Better, but the corpses part is still confusing. Didn't Gira just kill them? Why would he be confused about how they had been killed?
          • Added "whom he had not killed".--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:33, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
            • Ok, but are they or aren't they stormtroopers? (You don't have to clarify this on the page—right now it implies that they were.) I just want to make sure. Jonjedigrandmaster (Jedi Beacon) 19:37, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
              • Ah, OK. Yes, they are stormtroopers, added.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 19:42, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
  3. Toprawa:
    • I've noticed a pretty glaring sourcing error that needs rectifying. I could have handled this myself rather easily, but I wanted to point it out to you as something to always make sure you're watching out for when you write articles. You source the entire first sentence of the biography to the Episode III film, including the first part of the sentence talking about Gira, which obviously is not from Episode III. This portion of the sentence needs to be sourced to something else besides Episode III, which I figure is the comic in which he appears: "Gira, a humanoid male, was a Jedi Knight who managed to survive the first stages of the Great Jedi Purge"
      • Missed that. Thanks for pointing that out.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 16:12, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
    • You describe in the P/T how Gira kills himself as Vader leaves, but the biography makes no mention of this. Please do so.
    • The repetition in this sentence is not so good. Please reword: "Gira was skilled at using a lightsaber in combat, utilizing a lightsaber with a blue crystal." Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:49, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
      • I split it in two sentences. Thanks for the review, Tope.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 16:12, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Is his allegiance to the Galactic Republic confirmed, or is it just an assumption? You currently do not include anything in the article to verify this, so please clarify this with either facts that confirm this or your reasoning on the matter. CC7567 (talk) 06:26, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
    • I suppose it's an assumption. Didn't really think about this. Removed.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 21:52, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 22:12, January 22, 2010 (UTC)