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Geonosian spy

  • Nominated by: Kreivi Wolter 14:25, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: An article with really weird quotes, although they all still relates.

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    • Eh, could you modify the P&T image caption to a real sentence?
      • Try it now. Kreivi Wolter 20:02, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
        • It's still not a real one. Something like "The Geonosian spying on the Jedi" could work. --Xd 06:24, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
          • Actually, I think it's just fine. You can find similar caption in the article Galen Marek, in BtS. Kreivi Wolter 14:15, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
            • Well, is Marek a FA/GA? --Xd 14:33, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
              • ... ... good point. :P Kreivi Wolter 14:54, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
                • I took care of it myself, but for future reference, it's always "spy on" someone".
    • Airdate for the episode?
      • Righto. Kreivi Wolter 20:02, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
        • Source for that? You can source it to the Ep guide. --Xd 06:24, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
    • Mention his homeworld in the bio as well.
      • Geonosis is mentioned already. Per TCW clone trooper articles, I dont think its really neccessary to give it further explanations. Kreivi Wolter 20:02, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
    • Unsourced statement in the infobox.
    • The first section of the bio isn't completely sourced.
    • --Xd 19:39, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Lee
    • Is there any source that Geonosis is his homeworld. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:50, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
      • It's rather obvious, but not confirmed. Removed. Kreivi Wolter 19:20, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
        • Thanks. I rember Geonosian colonies on Hypori and aslong it is not confirmed that it is his homeworld infact, it shouldn't be there. --Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:07, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
  3. One thing I'm noticing are the quotes. If you cannot find suitable quotes, then you don't have to add any for this matter. The bio quote in particular makes no sense. The only one I see that's proper is the head quote. JangFett (Talk) 08:44, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
    • Thought they dont make sense, they all still relates to this article. Kreivi Wolter 16:35, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
      • How are they relevant to the Geonosian spy? JangFett (Talk) 17:09, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
        • Just read the quote description. Kreivi Wolter 17:16, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
          • You misunderstood me. Unless the quotes are from the Geonosian spy or have anything to do with him (good example meaning the head quote), then it's proper to add a quote. However, your bio and P&T quote make no sense regarding the Geonosian spy. I fail to see how they are even relevant to his character, as both show nothing about him. JangFett (Talk) 17:22, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
            • Well argued. Kreivi Wolter 17:30, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
              • That's how it should be, Kreivi. Just remember what I said. If someone mentions the spy indirectly, then it would also be a proper quote. However, those two quotes that you had in the bio and P&T had no meaning to his character. JangFett (Talk) 17:40, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Fett
    • "Jedi Padawans Barris Offee and Ahsoka Tano, who were trying to destroy the foundry by detonating its main generator, sneaked through the catacombs and accidentally awakened the Geonosian, who, unsure about the presence of the Jedi, started to follow their track." First off, "detonate" it with what? Second, if he was sleeping and unaware of the Jedi, how did he start to "follow their track"?
      • Well, it wasn't really told in the episode. He didn't see the Jedi when he awoke, yet he still started to follow them.Kreivi Wolter 17:15, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
        • Explode it with what? "Exploding" doesn't work here.
          • Rewroted as I dont think that the T-detonators are important enough for this article to mention.
            • It should be mentioned for clarity.
    • "After spotting the pair and hearing about their plan of, he quickly ran to inform Geonosian Archduke Poggle the Lesser about it." This needs clarifying. I don't understand. What "plan"?
    • "The Archduke then confronted the Jedi with his minions, but they were unsuccessful to prevent the destruction of the generator, and the foundry was destroyed." "Minions"?
    • Why do you begin the bio with "This Geonosian male was a member of the Confederacy of Independent Systems during the Clone Wars, and served under the command of Warlord Poggle the Lesser, the Archduke of Geonosis."? If he has a proper name, then you shouldn't make it seem that it's conjectural. Also, please clarify Poggle's context. Is he a warlord or Archduke?
      • Adressed. And Poggle is both of them. Just like Wat Tambor is both Emir and Foreman. Kreivi Wolter 17:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
        • Emir is a title, Foreman is the head of an organization. Also, I would just remove the warlord. We don't need to know it, and Archduke will be more concise with the intro.
          • Then why can't Warlord be a title, and Archduke the head of an organization/planet? Kreivi Wolter 14:28, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
            • The fact of the matter is that it has too much context. Please stick to either Archduke or Warlord. I would go with Archduke, as it is his proper title.
              • Then why it's just fine in the FA Mar Tuuk? I wont remove either of them unless u can prove that the point fairly differs from Tuuk and this article. Kreivi Wolter 22:30, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
                • They're two different characters. Now onto my objection, I'll take this as is, but please check your grammar.
    • When did the Second Battle of Geonosis take place? If you recall any TCW battle articles, please refer to the "Around 22 BBY".
      • Sigh. I was trying to leave it out of this article, as its highly overused in TCW articles. Still, noted.Kreivi Wolter 17:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
    • Please double check the proper name for "Geonosis primary droid foundry". This name hasn't been mentioned in any of the episodes. Double check the episode guides, or please pipe link it if it doesn't have a proper name. Conjectural titles are not to be linked as is.
      • I actually took it from its article, which was without the conjecture title. Adressed. Kreivi Wolter 17:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
        • You need to double check your sources. Don't assume anything thing that you see from non FA/Ga articles.
    • "They soon found themselves in a small hall where Geonosian soldiers were sleeping, one of them this Geonosian." Despite the grammatical error ("them this"), please reread this sentence. Why do you use "this Geonosian"? Again, he has a proper name. Don't make it sound that it's conjectural. Also, if the article is about the Geonosian spy, why is the pov focused solely on Barriss and Ahsoka?
    • "When the Padawans tried to sneak past the hall, the Geonosian, in sleep, accidentally turned his hand right on the head of Offee. With the help of Tano, Offee managed to loose herself and the Jedi continued their journey, but only seconds after, the Geonosian awoke." Very awkwardly phrased. Also, what Geonosian?
      • Better? Kreivi Wolter 17:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
        • "The pair were previously tasked with destroying the main generator of the foundry" By saying "previously tasked," it sounds like that they no longer need to complete that task, as it was probably completed.
        • Removed "previously". Kreivi Wolter 14:28, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
    • I would clarify which Geonosian you are talking about. Throughout the article, it seems very confusing as to who this "Geonosian" is. Saying "Geonosian spy" would be proper.
    • "However, they were unable to prevent the Padawans to detonate the generator, and the factory was ruined by the following explosion." Awkwardly phrased.
      • Roger roger. Kreivi Wolter 17:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
        • Like the previous objection, please clarify this: what did they use to destroy the foundry?
          • Rewroted as I dont think that the T-detonators are important enough for this article to mention. Kreivi Wolter 14:28, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
            • See my reasoning above. However, I'm going to strike this objection.
    • Your P&T drags on too much. Much of the information is just reworded information that has been stated in the bio.
      • Shortened. Kreivi Wolter 17:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
        • "Like most of his species, he spoke the Geonosian, and was capable of flying." Do you really think this is important enough to mention?
    • "Even though the character speaks few words in the episode, his name does not appear in the credits. The character is currently unnamed, however, the episode guide calls him "a Geonosian spy" in one section." Why mention the credits? If he's not mentioned in the episode, and only the episode guide, then please mention that only. A good example to follow would be the BtS of the Koho article.
      • I actually used it per this article's BtS. But removed anyway. Kreivi Wolter 17:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
        • Again, don't trust anything non FA/GAs claim. Check your own sources, just to be sure.
    • Overall, please watch your grammar. I'm going to give the article another look through. JangFett (Talk) 23:24, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Before I begin, I'm seeing lots of grammar issues throughout. Jonjedigrandmaster Jedi symbol (We seed the stars) 21:23, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
    • Sigh. I read it over and over again, but didn't find any of them. Obviously, this will need major work before it can be promoted, and it is the nominator who has to fix it. So, who can delete these nominations again? I'll try this again later. Kreivi Wolter 16:16, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

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