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Farns Monsbee

  • Nominated by: Ayrehead02 (talk) 10:12, October 28, 2018 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Seeing this guy in Rogue One completely pulled me out of the film since I know him well from small-time British comedy shows.

(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Nice work. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 21:13, October 28, 2018 (UTC)
  2. A little curious-which comedy shows? Fan26 (Talk) 01:13, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
  3. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 15:03, November 5, 2018 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 17:35, November 25, 2018 (UTC)
  5. ACvote Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:26, December 15, 2018 (UTC)
  6. ACvote MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 03:34, December 16, 2018 (UTC)

Object

Anıl
  • Shouldn't the word "rebel" be lowercased, as that's how the new canon has standardized that term?
  • I think the "Imperial base" in the second paragraph of the Biography section should be linked to Imperial security complex instead of Citadel Tower. After all, the rebels realized that the plans would probably be in the Tower after their arrival on Scarif. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 14:51, October 28, 2018 (UTC)
Fa26
  • Might just be me, but the context for the quote at the top of the page seems a bit length, especially compared to the size of the quote itself. Fan26 (Talk) 00:13, October 29, 2018 (UTC)
    • How's it look now? Ayrehead02 (talk) 07:11, October 29, 2018 (UTC)
      • I feel "on" is a bit superfluous. Fan26 (Talk) 14:19, October 29, 2018 (UTC)
        • But we can't say "Monsbee entering the Shield Gate" since we don't know if he makes it through or not. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:05, October 29, 2018 (UTC)
          • Good point.Fan26 (Talk) 18:07, October 29, 2018 (UTC)
QGJ
  • Context missing for Yavin 4 in the intro.
  • Intro and bio. Didn't GCW only officially begin with the battle of Scarif? AFAIK, everything prior to that constituted the Early rebellion against the Galactic Empire. Farns Monsbee was a human male who served the Rebel Alliance as a pilot during its war against the Galactic Empire.
    • It does indeed. That sentence wasn't technically incorrect but given the order of the intro I see why it's a little confusing so I've changed it. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:16, November 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • Please split this sentence. The squadron was successful in its mission and returned to Yavin, where a meeting of the Alliance Civil Government was held to discuss whether or not an attack should be made on the Imperial base on the planet Scarif in order to try and recover plans for the Empire's Death Star superweapon that Erso had informed his daughter Jyn Erso were kept there.
  • Could you clarify the relation between the Alliance Civil Government and the Alliance High Command? You first talk about a meeting between the Civil Government, then pipelink to High Command without establishing how that branch was related to the Civil Government. This is a bit confusing.
    • I've removed the pipelink. Ayrehead02 (talk) 20:16, November 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • This makes it sound as if the rebels on Yavin only heard some vague rumors about Scarif. I think it should be clarified that they intercepted Imperial transmissions that confirmed the attack. Once the Imperials became aware of the attack, word reached Yavin of what was happening
  • P&T Why are those two facts placed in contradistinction to each other? Are pilots with more flight hours automatically supposed to work bad in a squadron? Farns Monsbee was known to work well within a squadron, but had far more flight hours logged than his colleagues QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 11:19, November 4, 2018 (UTC)
Fred strikes back
  • I don't think the second paragraph in "Scramble to Scarif" is really relevant. Ending the first sentence at "...before the gate closed..." and moving it to the end of the previous paragraph and removing the rest after it might help ensure the article is focused on Monsbee and not Blue Squadron as a whole. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 02:07, November 24, 2018 (UTC)
    • I included that information so that you can see the three possible outcomes for Monsbee, he's either one of the 7 pilots that make it through, one of the 3 who die at the gate, or one of the 4 that retreat. Given that he has to be in one of the three groups described I think it's relevant to include them. Ayrehead02 (talk) 07:43, November 24, 2018 (UTC)
      • Perhaps remove the names, then. We don't need to know what each individual of Blue Squadron did. Just tell us the fate of each group. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 06:09, November 28, 2018 (UTC)
Tommy
  • Please remove duplicate links.
  • Could we have some context on the shield gate and how exactly it closes? Perhaps you could get in planetary shield too? Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 14:53, November 25, 2018 (UTC)
  • Please mention the Galactic Civil War in the body. Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 16:17, November 25, 2018 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • I'd like to see you crop off some of the dead black space on the left side of the article body's Eadu image. That way the image will be more square and therefore more uniform with the second body image.
  • Does it actually say he was "known" to do this? "Farns Monsbee was known to work well within a squadron..."
  • Is it "flight-hours" or "flight hours"? Because the article uses both. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 05:27, December 14, 2018 (UTC)
    • The Visual Guide actually uses flying hours which I've now changed it to. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:09, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 03:34, December 16, 2018 (UTC)


  • To Answer Fan's vote question, it's mostly Mighty Boosh, although he's also in both the Paddington films and Horrible Histories from the couple of episodes I've seen. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:16, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
    • I remember him from HH, now that I think about it (he was pretty good as the insane Emperor Caligula). I'm not sure if I remember him from Paddington, but I'll check out MB. Thanks! Fan26 (Talk)
  • Being a loan word from French, "Blond" is one of the few English adjectives that is gender specific. "Blonde" should only be used when referring to women or their hair color. When talking about males, it's "blond." QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 11:19, November 4, 2018 (UTC)