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  • 1 Eero Iridian's species
    • 1.1 (3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)
      • 1.1.1 Support
      • 1.1.2 Object
        • 1.1.2.1 GTQ
        • 1.1.2.2 Attack of the Clone
      • 1.1.3 Comments

Eero Iridian's species

  • Nominated by: Eyrezer 11:00, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: This article will not help with any of WP:AS's various projects!

(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)

Support

  1. Looks good! ~SavageBOB sig 14:28, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
  2. GTQ(Problems?) 03:36, August 14, 2011 (UTC)
  3. ACvote CC7567 (talk) 03:51, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
  4. ACvote grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 09:50, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
  5. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 17:20, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  6. ACvote 1358 (Talk) 20:44, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Object

GTQ

Correct me if I'm wrong but we only know of one idividual from this species. If so I would think it is speculation to make a assumptions about there society and culture.GTQ(Problems?) 17:49, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

  • I don't think these are assumptions. In the story, Eero knows who his father is, and want to follow in his footsteps. This contrasts with species that are born in large batches of eggs etc with no parental connection. I, therefore, think it is worth mentioning the fact of the recognition of father/son relationship, and that stating this is not, in fact, speculation or assumption. For the clothes, I am happy to change to "at least some members of the species wore clothes". --Eyrezer 20:55, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
    • Also the intro and biology and appearances section should start with "this species" since it has a conjectural title GTQ(Problems?) 20:16, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
Attack of the Clone
  • "but was publicly corrected by the Jedi-in-training Dooku": would Padawan be better to link here instead of pipelinking "Jedi-in-training"?
    • I don't think so. I have checked the original source again, and the seminar pre-dates Dooku's selection by Thame as a Padawan. Therefore, the generic link to Jedi training that you have added seems most appropriate. --Eyrezer 10:20, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
      • Maybe Jedi Initiate would be more appropriate then? Thoughts? CC7567 (talk) 19:24, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
        • Seems appropriate. Changed the link. --Eyrezer 09:55, August 29, 2011 (UTC)
  • "and a successful kidnapping attempt was made while Iridian accompanied the Senator on a cruise to Annon's homeworld": Annon's homeworld should be linked here (if necessary, to a nonexistent or soon-to-exist article).
    • Link added. --Eyrezer 10:20, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
  • Some of the linking and grammar was a little awry. Please try to proofread a bit more next time. CC7567 (talk) 03:17, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the review, CC. Personally, I think it is more useful to link to the father as a senator than a senator as it is clearer that the former links to an individual whereas the latter appears to be a link to the generic position. --Eyrezer 10:20, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 20:44, September 10, 2011 (UTC)


  • Just one thought: I've been trying to move away from naming an entire unidentified species after a member, preferring something like "Unidentified [distinguishing feature] species" to "[So-and-so's] species." There's never been any policy decision on it, but it seems like it makes more sense to choose a title that describes the species more generically. Not an objection, just food for thought. I'll review properly soon. ~SavageBOB sig 14:41, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
    • Interesting point. My practice is to name a species after its homeworld if known; if not, then to name it after a named individual if known; if not, to give it a description. I think description based conjectural titles are the least useful for searching, as with a given species, how would you know which of a few features to search for. Know what I mean? --Eyrezer 07:54, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
  • Simply stating the fact "The species had feet" doesn't seem right. i think it could be assumed by the reader if left out. it could also be changed to say something like; They had feet like most humanoid species, or simply, their body structure was humanoid. --FreqiMANN 07:23, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
    • As I stated on the talk page, this is a species where very little is known about its appearance or physical make-up. It is known to have feet, which distinguishes it from plenty of other species, including Hutts, Quockrans, Slith, Laboi, etc. Furthermore, your assumption that feet somehow denotes humanoid is flawed. We do not know this species is humanoid, and many non-humanoid species have feet. Therefore, none of your suggestions are accurate. If you look at other examples of good and featured article on sentient species, you will see this kind of detail is expected and appropriate. --Eyrezer 07:45, August 10, 2011 (UTC)